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SignerJ wrote:
I can't believe that no one else has mentioned this...
And that no one has connected these dots!

(Image tags removed due to size. Just open the images in a new tab.)

amrith777 wrote:
Nixta wrote:
Edit: Also at 9:18 we see a car in the driveway. Whose car is it? Jay's? I can't get a clear shot of it, and it is only in view for a brief moment.


Not the best,but I tried:

http://i.imgur.com/oqW6b5E.jpg


Now, compare that to:
http://i.imgur.com/R0IBLXQ.png

I'm pretty sure that it is clear they are the same car. Please pay special attention to the windows and doors.
Now, who's car is that? That is Jay's car, form Entry #64. Which is pretty strong evidence that it is Jay in the house.
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For comparison, here is Alex's car from Entry #52:
http://i.imgur.com/3K54pK6.jpg

Please take note that his car has only one door, and its window isn't divided.
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And finally, here's Tim's car (not the best image):
http://i.imgur.com/PIvvSXI.jpg

That picture is from Entry #64. The car could be Tim's, but it seems to be a bit too dark. Not to mention, we haven't seen Tim.
However, it doesn't make a difference if the car belongs to Jay or Tim, since we know that they are traveling together. (Or are they..?)


I want to agree with you, but the wing mirror from the car in #73 is black, same as Alex's, whereas Jay's wing mirror is white.

Aside from that I would say the car looks more like Jay's, but it is quite blurry.

First post, blugow!

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AdamRPendleton wrote:
turn Jay into his masky/hoody/Alex/Craig Digsby state.

After reading this, I had to make a gif. Jay's masky state is Craig Digsby. I called it.

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SignerJ wrote:
I can't believe that no one else has mentioned this...
And that no one has connected these dots!

(Image tags removed due to size. Just open the images in a new tab.)

amrith777 wrote:
Nixta wrote:
Edit: Also at 9:18 we see a car in the driveway. Whose car is it? Jay's? I can't get a clear shot of it, and it is only in view for a brief moment.


Not the best,but I tried:

http://i.imgur.com/oqW6b5E.jpg


Now, compare that to:
http://i.imgur.com/R0IBLXQ.png

I'm pretty sure that it is clear they are the same car. Please pay special attention to the windows and doors.
Now, who's car is that? That is Jay's car, form Entry #64. Which is pretty strong evidence that it is Jay in the house.
-
For comparison, here is Alex's car from Entry #52:
http://i.imgur.com/3K54pK6.jpg

Please take note that his car has only one door, and its window isn't divided.
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And finally, here's Tim's car (not the best image):
http://i.imgur.com/PIvvSXI.jpg

That picture is from Entry #64. The car could be Tim's, but it seems to be a bit too dark. Not to mention, we haven't seen Tim.
However, it doesn't make a difference if the car belongs to Jay or Tim, since we know that they are traveling together. (Or are they..?)

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EDIT: Before anyone says, "but he could have bought a different car!", that claim makes no sense. Cars are expensive, and Alex already has to pay for a house/rent. And he has a working car -- there is no reason for him to get a new one.

EDIT2: Here's an image of the car from Entry #72: http://i.imgur.com/ahGvtNV.png If that doesn't prove to you that the car from Entry #73 is one being used by Tim and Jay, then I don't know what will. I personally think the car in #72 is Tim's because of the color, but the real question is, does it matter?

To me, it looks exactly like Tim's car. Since Jay also has a car, it would probably also be parked there if he was staying with Tim. Therefore, I conclude that it is Tim in the window. Besides, this isn't the first time Hoodie stole pills from Tim. Also, Tim is the only character besides Hoody confirmed to taking the pills. The only thing I must wonder is why Jay wasn't there with Tim, and whose house it was. According to the tweets, they are staying together, and since Jay is in bad shape, I doubt Tim would just move away. Perhaps Jay was out somewhere without Tim's permission. Jay would definitely run away like that. He is a wannabe detective.

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MDHDZN wrote:
To me, it looks exactly like Tim's car.

To me too. It has the chrome strip on the door, it has the black side mirror, and if it looks a little dark in #73 -- well, it was night then, and it wasn't in #64 and 72.

To me, the wooden box would suggest either the presence of Tim or the fact that this was Tim's house, absent other information.

Still, it's odd that if they're on the run, that they'd head back to an area where 1) they know Alex is looking for them; and 2) that Hoody would be so incautious as to announce that fact to the world. Either this is out of chronological order and actually happened weeks ago, or T & J are following up on something. The fact that whoever was in the house was in the attic suggests... what? They're unlikely to be hiding there; the car out front is a dead giveaway to Alex should he happen by. Is something stored up there that they need to retrieve? Medical records that might provide a clue?

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 		I definitely think that this must be Tim's car. If we look at the strips that run down the sides of Jay's car and Tim's car we can see that Jay has a strip that runs closer to the ground while the one on Tim's car seems to run more at the middle of the door. I believe that the reflection seen in the middle of the door on the mystery car is that strip and it is clearly more towards the middle.

I haven't read through this whole thread yet so excuse me if we've already discussed this, but if this is indeed Tim that Hoody was stealing pills from this raises a few questions in my mind. First, (this has already been asked) where is Jay and why was Tim in that attic. Second, and in my opinion most importantly, if Tim has a hidden tape then WHERE DID HE GET IT? If someone else hid it there then who? We can be pretty sure it wasn't Hoody and Alex doesn't know where they are. Did Tim himself hide it there or possibly Jay? Since we didn't see any evidence of Jay I am starting to think one of two things may have happened. Either Tim sneaked off to explore this house and thus didn't know about the tape or Tim hid the tape there himself which would definitely call his motives back into question.

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 		So.. That was pretty lame. Good to know Hoody also needs pills, I guess, but ten minutes of that? Bleh.
I was laughing when he walked by the bridge. "Don't mind the guy with the mask and camera, he's 100% legit just keep driving yea" i mean really

And now Jay needs to go break into whatever that house was because he's obsessed with tapes. I think sometime he should watch one and it should just be a tape. No TO interference or anything. That'd be great.

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OBEY1212 wrote:
Second, and in my opinion most importantly, if Tim has a hidden tape then WHERE DID HE GET IT?

When they found those tapes in Entry #69, it looked like more than two would play. Perhaps there was something on one of the tapes that Tim didn't want us to see... Since the box looked exactly like the one in Entry #61, it is most likely Tim's. Perhaps he hid it from Jay in his house, and covered it in plastic bags. Since it is known that Jay and Tim are staying in some hotel, Tim's house is the best hiding spot, for everyone knows he is avoiding there.

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MDHDZN wrote:
OBEY1212 wrote:
Second, and in my opinion most importantly, if Tim has a hidden tape then WHERE DID HE GET IT?

When they found those tapes in Entry #69, it looked like more than two would play. Perhaps there was something on one of the tapes that Tim didn't want us to see... Since the box looked exactly like the one in Entry #61, it is most likely Tim's. Perhaps he hid it from Jay in his house, and covered it in plastic bags. Since it is known that Jay and Tim are staying in some hotel, Tim's house is the best hiding spot, for everyone knows he is avoiding there.

The real reason is because
HE IS A LIAR

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MDHDZN wrote:
OBEY1212 wrote:
Second, and in my opinion most importantly, if Tim has a hidden tape then WHERE DID HE GET IT?

When they found those tapes in Entry #69, it looked like more than two would play. Perhaps there was something on one of the tapes that Tim didn't want us to see... Since the box looked exactly like the one in Entry #61, it is most likely Tim's. Perhaps he hid it from Jay in his house, and covered it in plastic bags. Since it is known that Jay and Tim are staying in some hotel, Tim's house is the best hiding spot, for everyone knows he is avoiding there.


Actually I think it's more likely that this tape is one of the ones that Tim recorded back in 2006, and decided not to give to Jay in Entry #54. When Tim gave those tapes to Jay it always seemed that Tim was testing Jay. Why would Tim keep hold of the tapes if he had no way to play them and had no idea what was on them? I think it's more realistic that he pulled a Kralie and only gave Jay the tapes he wanted him to see, and I wouldn't be surprised if we found out that Tim had a videocamera which he can use to play the tapes all along. If Tim is going to withhold one of the static hole tapes from Jay then he'd need to watch them all before Jay did, which I don't find very likely.

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 		Could it be Alex squatting in Tim's old house? That would make some sense, especially if he did the same thing with Brian's house in 2006. That would also explain why Hoody thinks he can just break in and take pills without anyone caring- if Tim really has gone then he won't miss the pills and he won't notice that someone has been rummaging around in his medicine cabinet. Why would Hoody take a camera and gun? No idea. Then again we don't know why Hoody does most of the things that Hoody does.

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aidansean wrote:
Actually I think it's more likely that this tape is one of the ones that Tim recorded back in 2006, and decided not to give to Jay in Entry #54. When Tim gave those tapes to Jay it always seemed that Tim was testing Jay. Why would Tim keep hold of the tapes if he had no way to play them and had no idea what was on them? I think it's more realistic that he pulled a Kralie and only gave Jay the tapes he wanted him to see, and I wouldn't be surprised if we found out that Tim had a videocamera which he can use to play the tapes all along. If Tim is going to withhold one of the static hole tapes from Jay then he'd need to watch them all before Jay did, which I don't find very likely.


I was JUST thinking this! Also, if this is a tape Tim's holding back, it could contain evidence of him transitioning in his Masky phase...it could also contain Hoody and his true identity... Shocked

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 		That would explain why Hoody/TTA is so keen on exposing Tim in some way, constantly calling him a "LIAR".

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aidansean wrote:
MDHDZN wrote:
OBEY1212 wrote:
Second, and in my opinion most importantly, if Tim has a hidden tape then WHERE DID HE GET IT?

When they found those tapes in Entry #69, it looked like more than two would play. Perhaps there was something on one of the tapes that Tim didn't want us to see... Since the box looked exactly like the one in Entry #61, it is most likely Tim's. Perhaps he hid it from Jay in his house, and covered it in plastic bags. Since it is known that Jay and Tim are staying in some hotel, Tim's house is the best hiding spot, for everyone knows he is avoiding there.


Actually I think it's more likely that this tape is one of the ones that Tim recorded back in 2006, and decided not to give to Jay in Entry #54. When Tim gave those tapes to Jay it always seemed that Tim was testing Jay. Why would Tim keep hold of the tapes if he had no way to play them and had no idea what was on them? I think it's more realistic that he pulled a Kralie and only gave Jay the tapes he wanted him to see, and I wouldn't be surprised if we found out that Tim had a videocamera which he can use to play the tapes all along. If Tim is going to withhold one of the static hole tapes from Jay then he'd need to watch them all before Jay did, which I don't find very likely.

If that's the case, why would Tim try to hide the fact that he remembered going with Alex to the abandoned hospital? That was one of the tapes that he gave to Jay, and he said in Entry 58 that he never went there with Alex. Tim would have been the victim in that case. (He couldn't have been trying to cover up Brian's "gone"-ing-- that was in Entry 51, and Tim didn't find out about the entries until Entry 59.) It just doesn't make sense-- the information we have doesn't fit.

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Lheai wrote:
aidansean wrote:
MDHDZN wrote:
OBEY1212 wrote:
Second, and in my opinion most importantly, if Tim has a hidden tape then WHERE DID HE GET IT?

When they found those tapes in Entry #69, it looked like more than two would play. Perhaps there was something on one of the tapes that Tim didn't want us to see... Since the box looked exactly like the one in Entry #61, it is most likely Tim's. Perhaps he hid it from Jay in his house, and covered it in plastic bags. Since it is known that Jay and Tim are staying in some hotel, Tim's house is the best hiding spot, for everyone knows he is avoiding there.


Actually I think it's more likely that this tape is one of the ones that Tim recorded back in 2006, and decided not to give to Jay in Entry #54. When Tim gave those tapes to Jay it always seemed that Tim was testing Jay. Why would Tim keep hold of the tapes if he had no way to play them and had no idea what was on them? I think it's more realistic that he pulled a Kralie and only gave Jay the tapes he wanted him to see, and I wouldn't be surprised if we found out that Tim had a videocamera which he can use to play the tapes all along. If Tim is going to withhold one of the static hole tapes from Jay then he'd need to watch them all before Jay did, which I don't find very likely.

If that's the case, why would Tim try to hide the fact that he remembered going with Alex to the abandoned hospital? That was one of the tapes that he gave to Jay, and he said in Entry 58 that he never went there with Alex. Tim would have been the victim in that case. (He couldn't have been trying to cover up Brian's "gone"-ing-- that was in Entry 51, and Tim didn't find out about the entries until Entry 59.) It just doesn't make sense-- the information we have doesn't fit.


I think at that point he was still testing Jay to see if he would come clean. Towards the end he says something along the lines of "I don't know what you're trying to do here..." and acted very suspiciously around Jay. It's also quite likely that he didn't remember much of what happened, even with the tapes to help him. The next entry, Jay decides to come clean (presumably after picking up on Tim's behaviour) and get suckerpunched by a very angry Tim. I think that fits in quite well with Tim withholding a tape, especially if it's incriminating.

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 		Even though I am the one who posted the car image,and now that it's being discussed (nice comparisons, @Signer J) I wondered then and wonder even more now,if the car was supposed to be in the shot at all.
In other words,is it meaningful IG,or was it a "goof" that they overlooked?And anyone that wants to maintain that they would never do such a thing,I would say not to forget the "Sponge Bob" t-shirt anachronism.
If it's NOT a goof and it IS Tim's car,then I'm confused because before the car was noted,I thought what a lot of folks did when I first viewed this entry--that it was Alex in the attic and window.And I also agree that if it wasn't,why the hell would Hoody upload this entry when he knows damn well that Alex is monitoring things (YT & Twitter) and posting such would send him an engraved invitation to said house to confront Jay/Tim?
The box at the house is the same box Tim had in the seizure entry when Hoody broke in,but I have no idea what the tape in this entry would be and what could possibly be on it,since he gave the other tapes to Jay and there was definitely some stuff on those that you'd think Tim would want to hide,so if he didn't,what could possibly be so controversial/damning on the tape in this entry?
Also,on a side note,I thought we were supposed to discuss the contents of these entries based on "contents" and storyline,and not be critiquing the work in general opinion-wise or whether we liked it or not.It's one thing to be confused or not be able to suss something out based on the elements/content in the entry and how it fits the storyline/narrative,it's another thing to complain because it did not meet your expectation or criteria regarding what constitutes "quality".It was my understanding that this thread and other entry discussion threads were to discuss the contents and that there are other threads to voice and vent your dismay regarding the subjective elements.Perhaps I am mistaken.But,I am not the only person who has brought this up.
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