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THmanslayr
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Hey... Hey guys... What's the difference between Jesus and Everymanhybrid?
One of them is coming back soon. The other is Everymanhybrid.

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Magic-Josh
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THmanslayr wrote:
Hey... Hey guys... What's the difference between Jesus and Everymanhybrid?
One of them is coming back soon. The other is Everymanhybrid.




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Null Unit
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What exactly upsets people about flipping off Slenderman? How is it different from confronting him by yelling at him? Or attacking him with a bat? Or trying to punch him?

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300 pages. Look how far we've come. This isn't isn't even the EMH thread anymore. I'm proud of us.
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TheOperator
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Null Unit wrote:
What exactly upsets people about flipping off Slenderman? How is it different from confronting him by yelling at him? Or attacking him with a bat? Or trying to punch him?


It was the way he reacted, going from tentacles everywhere to no tentacles and a cocked head, as if he was like "Damn... you didn't have to hurt my feelings ):". I'd have the same issue with him being yelled at if he flinched away in terror or was knocked over and ran away if someone tried to hit him. Slenderman is supposed to be intimidating. He becomes rather less intimidating if he's bothered by a guy insulting him to the point of not even attacking any more.

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TheOperator wrote:
he was like "Damn... you didn't have to hurt my feelings ):"


I read it more as a reaction of surprise that someone was so willfully defying him and acting unafraid. If you are used to your mere presence sending people running, wouldn't it at least momentarily stop you in your tracks if someone had the balls to defy you, even as meaningless as that defiance was?

So hard to really portray a lot of stuff when you have no face with which to emote.

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What exactly upsets people about flipping off Slenderman? How is it different from confronting him by yelling at him? Or attacking him with a bat? Or trying to punch him?


Aside from the reaction point, if the response lacks fear, it comes across as something cheesy.

With Evan & the bat, specifically, there are some key differences. First off, it's the beginning of the series, they hadn't seen yet what Slenderman is capable of, & it hadn't really done anything yet. But even so, there's still an element of desperation in Evan's actions. He feels like their only chance is to somehow kill Slenderman before it can kill them.

...And of course, Slenderman unflinchingly shows him how foolish that is.

Also, I thought it was just as bad when, recently, Marble Hornets had Tim yell at The Operator & it just disappeared. They attempted to justify it, but...eh.

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afacelessking
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Lithp wrote:
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What exactly upsets people about flipping off Slenderman? How is it different from confronting him by yelling at him? Or attacking him with a bat? Or trying to punch him?


Aside from the reaction point, if the response lacks fear, it comes across as something cheesy.
Also, I thought it was just as bad when, recently, Marble Hornets had Tim yell at The Operator & it just disappeared. They attempted to justify it, but...eh.

It isn't the flipping off part that upsets most people. That is a natural and very human reaction to something that scares us all....its the lame reaction to the flipping off that pisses off a lot of fans. An entity like The Slender Man wouldn't simply slump it's shoulders and turn its head to the side in defeat because some idiot human(Whatever idiotic "rogue god bullshit" Rosner felt like putting in there) flipped him off!
The terrifying enigma of The Slender Man is only scary because he is UNKNOWN and his motives,powers,desires are also UNKNOWN. When you attempt to define him, through any means...like the above mentioned... it leaves everyone with a bad taste in their mouths and very much disappointed.

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knifebladepresents
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So, basically Slenderman is invincible. He will always win the end, just like how evil always triumphs over good, DUH.

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SignerJ
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knifebladepresents wrote:
So, basically Slenderman is invincible. He will always win the end, just like how evil always triumphs over good, DUH.


Evil usually triumphs over good -- just look at real world. It's in the popular escapist fiction where good always wins.

afacelessking wrote:
The terrifying enigma of The Slender Man is only scary because he is UNKNOWN and his motives,powers,desires are also UNKNOWN. When you attempt to define him, through any means...like the above mentioned... it leaves everyone with a bad taste in their mouths and very much disappointed.

I have to agree with you. I'd say that some of the better series are the ones that don't even TRY to explain him, beyond the necessary plot elements.

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TheOperator
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knifebladepresents wrote:
So, basically Slenderman is invincible. He will always win the end, just like how evil always triumphs over good, DUH.


No, I'm okay with some way of overcoming the Slenderman being possible. But it's easy to go too far with that and make him no longer scary. I didn't have any problem with what the scene was supposed to convey, that Firebrand had found something to give him a chance against Slenderman. It was the execution. Slenderman is not the kind of character who can drop his intimidating aura so completely and look thoroughly put-off by somebody's reaction to him. That's because Slenderman isn't something you can relate to or understand, the Slenderman is a monster with incomprehensible thoughts and motives. As an example of how the scene could have worked, Firebrand could have used the diary to escape a seemingly impossible situation, getting away from the attacking Slenderman. Perhaps then show some kind of act of defiance to the Slenderman - to which he doesn't slump his shoulders, seeing as he is an impossible to understand monster who really shouldn't care if someone wants to hurl an insult. That's just one example. The main point is that if some way to gain an edge over Slenderman is going to be used, it needs to be done with care. It's a tricky issue, since the Slenderman stops being scary if it appears too human, which can be done through it dying, being injured or personally offended. I have no issue with the Slenderman being defied, losing a battle or even being made to be "gone" - all of those just take care and I feel appropriate care was not taken in the flipping-off scenario, leading to a far too human and pathetic looking Slenderman.

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knifebladepresents
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Interesting...

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Magic-Josh
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Slender Man isn't scary. Not as much as he used to be. We can stop trying to preserve some kind of "fear" that he supposedly has. The mythos isn't going to go anywhere if every series just keeps doing the same stuff, so it's nice to see someone trying something new for once. Besides, his reaction to the finger could be interpreted any number of ways; Adam's said that numerous times.

I think anyone that has a problem with it needs to realize that this isn't 2010 anymore. Slender Man can't be the same fucking thing over and over again.

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TheOperator
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Magic-Josh wrote:
Slender Man isn't scary. Not as much as he used to be. We can stop trying to preserve some kind of "fear" that he supposedly has. The mythos isn't going to go anywhere if every series just keeps doing the same stuff, so it's nice to see someone trying something new for once. Besides, his reaction to the finger could be interpreted any number of ways; Adam's said that numerous times.

I think anyone that has a problem with it needs to realize that this isn't 2010 anymore. Slender Man can't be the same fucking thing over and over again.


Slenderman was supposed to have been scary from the get-go, so I disagree that it's unimportant to preserve the fear. To throw away that priority is to throw away the essence of the character and cause him to be Slenderman in name only. New ideas are fine but not if Slenderman's core suffers as a result. That's what I think, anyway.

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ChildOfAtom wrote:
I read it more as a reaction of surprise that someone was so willfully defying him and acting unafraid. If you are used to your mere presence sending people running, wouldn't it at least momentarily stop you in your tracks if someone had the balls to defy you, even as meaningless as that defiance was?


True, and I love TT a lot, they're my 2nd fav after MH, but there in lies the point.

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In MH, Tim literally walks up to The Operator in defiance and Operator looks down at him a little but he keeps that presence. Sure, it seems like maybe he'd be like, "Someone dares defy me?" but not in a comical way, he still seemed imposing.


Again, love TT and as far as special effects go in a series, they take the cake, but yeah, the cocked headed Slenderman from a middle finger did seem a little out of place.

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