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Ristar
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Joined: 22 Feb 2013 Posts: 236
What are the reasons for unsuccessful Slender Man series? If there is something i hate, is when series get discontinued. This can be due to many reasons, but i think it's because they don't get noticed enough with barely above 100 views p/ video (If you are lucky). I think this happens even with a high quality series.
What are your thoughts on this?
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:59 am
nirualos
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Joined: 12 Oct 2012 Posts: 67 Location: Sweden
To many people make series without more plot then "I don't remember filming this" and "my friend is dead/missing/coughing blood/has no face", and thus crash after a few videos. Other people don't talk things through with other people involved and thus the series collapses. Also, a lot of people are bad at acting, writing and editing, or at least need to practice a bit more.
That said, if there would be some kind of a filter, say, a subforum for high and low-quality series, i.e. one where only series that are popular go, and one where everything is posted, we could make acess to high quality content easier. Or just do what everyone does and look through things manually. The lack of views initially might scare some people of, but if they keep going, the only thing neccessary is good writing and a friendly poster who bumps the thread every now and then.
TL;DR Too much cr*p, everyone and their grandmother makes "slendrr" series.
(oh my god, slendirr hurrdurr)
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:58 am
thisistheend
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Joined: 06 Mar 2013 Posts: 121
They are too short. The majority of series only last less than a year before they give up or the story arc ends.
Not to mention the utter stubbornness of the community not to watch a vlog that's not the big five.
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:10 am
Faceless
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Joined: 02 Sep 2011 Posts: 137
I find that the lack of planning, being overly generic or overly knowledgeable of the Slender Man are massive downfalls for many a series. Being original with your take on the Slender Man is important. Also I am a huge fan of showing over telling. I think that just telling things without footage to back it up is a cheap way out when overly used. Another thing is that a lot of series will try to pump out as many videos as fast as they can. This may overwhelm newer viewers. The best option is quality over quantity. Yet another important aspect is the length of entries. Shorter is better unless you absolutely need a longer entry for an important reason. The Dead Are Watching mostly has very short entries that make the series very easy to digest. Caught Not Sleeping has several very long entries, but they needed to be that way and were used effectively as such. With all that said I hope that I have helped.
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:15 pm
PostIt
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Joined: 08 May 2013 Posts: 5
All of these are totally right. A lot of people get a few entries in and realize they don't know where to go. More poeple have absolutely no support, from fellow actors, from family, or from the community (come on guys! Give the little series a leg up!) and a lot of them get very little feedback, often nothing but useless criticism.
More than that, the majority of them don't know what they're getting into. Making a slender series is really, really, really, hard. It's a lot of work even to make the dumpiest little nothing series, and more than just work, often times the creators put in a lot of effort for extremely little reward or patience. Everyone looks at a slender series and says "Hey, I can do that" and most people will watch a video and then immediately forget about it, but no one considers the hours and hours of work that go into them. Sometimes that work will stop a fresh creator in their tracks, sometimes the lack of respect for that work will.
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:47 pm
Lithp
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Joined: 04 Mar 2012 Posts: 2058
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Not to mention the utter stubbornness of the community not to watch a vlog that's not the big five.
There being literally hundreds of these things & the tendency for even the "high quality" stuff to just stop existing for months at a time, I can understand the trepidation.
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:40 pm
ChildOfAtom
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Joined: 15 Aug 2010 Posts: 1606 Location: NY, NY
Lithp wrote:
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Not to mention the utter stubbornness of the community not to watch a vlog that's not the big five.
There being literally hundreds of these things & the tendency for even the "high quality" stuff to just stop existing for months at a time, I can understand the trepidation.
Why does being a part of Slender Man Fandom mean that you have to watch every single series?
I read comics. I buy about 30 comics a month, 90% of them are from the "Big Three" (Marvel, DC, Image) plus a few from Dark Horse, and a few independent publishers. But there are hundreds of comics published each month. Am I obligated as a part of fandom to read all of them? To narrow it down a bit, I read Batman, but there are 7 other "Batman" titles published every month that I DON'T read. As part of "Batman Fandom" am I required to?
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:54 pm
thisistheend
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ChildOfAtom wrote:
Lithp wrote:
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Not to mention the utter stubbornness of the community not to watch a vlog that's not the big five.
There being literally hundreds of these things & the tendency for even the "high quality" stuff to just stop existing for months at a time, I can understand the trepidation.
Why does being a part of Slender Man Fandom mean that you have to watch every single series?
I read comics. I buy about 30 comics a month, 90% of them are from the "Big Three" (Marvel, DC, Image) plus a few from Dark Horse, and a few independent publishers. But there are hundreds of comics published each month. Am I obligated as a part of fandom to read all of them? To narrow it down a bit, I read Batman, but there are 7 other "Batman" titles published every month that I DON'T read. As part of "Batman Fandom" am I required to?
It does not, but the stubbornness of the community is what I'm criticizing.
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:05 pm
Lithp
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Joined: 04 Mar 2012 Posts: 2058
I just don't really see it. A lot of people seem way more willing to watch series than I am. I won't even touch something if its thread is less than 10 pages.
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:43 am
Oscar Langley
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Joined: 14 Aug 2010 Posts: 322
I tend not to check out a new series unless I'm just really in the mood. Supply over demand.
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:13 pm
Cursor
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Goomba.
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:39 pm
xemnasvii
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Joined: 22 May 2012 Posts: 358
So would a series that kept going with minimal community interaction be discovered later on and become popular?
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:03 pm
thisistheend
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xemnasvii wrote:
So would a series that kept going with minimal community interaction be discovered later on and become popular?
Depends on the quality, but it is possible. MH was actually quite quiet from Season 1 to early Season 2 until the massive slendervlog explosion in 2011-12. Or so I'm led to believe.
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:29 pm
Oscar Langley
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xemnasvii wrote:
So would a series that kept going with minimal community interaction be discovered later on and become popular?
There was a practice vlog called gabehos that somebody found after the fact that was well liked. But then the creator deleted it. Then he started a new vlog for real. Which he also deleted.
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:17 am
Ryudragon
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Joined: 21 Jan 2011 Posts: 263
I'm oversatured with the Slender Man topic and I doubt I'm the only one. It always ends up being more or less the same. I'm only sticking around now to check the series that I started watching until the very end. Once they're all done, I'll just get a break for a while.
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:55 am
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