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Do you trust Tim?
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LJonesy
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The outline of the head and wings against the white of the house is really distinct. Also, notice how that distinct outline moves in as the distortion settles.

Maybe this is what drove TO away?
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Lithp
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Pareidolia. If you look at it objectively, if it's an angel, it's pretty fucking deformed. The general shape is closer to that of a bird, or as Hazman said, the Batman emblem.

So I believe you that there's a dark patch of static there, & that we could vaguely attribute a "wing" shape to it if we wanted to, but that's it.

It also seems that they'd find that sort of thing tacky. Though, admittedly, there is that whole "ark" thing. I don't know that they've ever had what you might call "Easter eggs," though.

That 3rd image makes the remote chance even less possible. I don't know how you find that "distinct," the outline completely changes shape, & is practically a rectangle.

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LJonesy
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Lithp wrote:
Pareidolia. If you look at it objectively, if it's an angel, it's pretty fucking deformed. The general shape is closer to that of a bird, or as Hazman said, the Batman emblem.

So I believe you that there's a dark patch of static there, & that we could vaguely attribute a "wing" shape to it if we wanted to, but that's it.

It also seems that they'd find that sort of thing tacky. Though, admittedly, there is that whole "ark" thing. I don't know that they've ever had what you might call "Easter eggs," though.

That 3rd image makes the remote chance even less possible. I don't know how you find that "distinct," the outline completely changes shape, & is practically a rectangle.


There are two wings, with the head in between, if you don't see it clear enough on the right side you should zoom into the image a lot more. The second wing doesn't fit into the whole frame is all.

I don't see how you see a rectangle, once the image moves in and stops, it's stays like that until 12:17, when the screen goes completely black. the curve on the wings doesn't change at all, but perhaps you're mixing it up against TO's suit and the tree on the other side?

And come on, isn't this the forum where people go over the Entries with a fine comb and examine everything for possible leads? But I do appreciate the effort you're putting in Lithp.

It may very well be Pareidolia, my ego isn't big enough to think I'm definitely right. As yet there hasn't seemed to be any trend of angels or guardians beyond what the characters themselves do, so it doesn't necessarily fit. Or maybe we've just been overlooking the distortion?

Either way, it looks like something. Something that decided to appear over Tim, rather than any other part of the frame, or even have it barely protrude from one side like some clues do. Speaking has produced distortion before, and tim, standing up to TO might also be producing some kind of distortion.

Give it some thought, is all I'm asking!

Even without this, it's Tim standing up against TO for both himself and Jay's sake. He could have just bolted and left Jay for dead. He didn't have to risk his life like that, and then take care of Jay since, which gives me reason to support him.

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ToTheFading
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Definite trend of people seeing what they want to see going on. Always has been with mystery type stories, but no, sorry, I don't think there's anything there beyond distortion that can be seen as different things depending on how hard you look.

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Amethyst.64
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I agree that it looks a little bit like an angel.
But it also kinda just looks like a shadow of Tim, distorted a little bit.

The reason I dislike this is the same reason I dislike "Hoody is Future Jay" they haven't laid any back story for angels being involved in this, at all. I like to think they're not go on a massive tangent like that.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
And I just love the idea that Tim is Batman


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Chest Cam Avenger
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Jay clearly still wants to trust Tim. Think he might be looking for input on that very subject in his latest Tweet? Has anyone tried advising him, one way or another?

I, for one, hope he doesn't watch it(although watching it is obviously the logical decision).

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SilentMedusa
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I did. I told him he should at least call Tim and hear what he has to say. I also pointed out neither of them can go it alone successfully.

Incidentally, someone using the name Brian said the same thing Smile.

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Sha Noran
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I see exactly what you mean in the video, but there's no way we can say those are angel wings but the person in the window is just distortion. After a lot of discussion, the figure that seems to appear in the window was ruled a coincidental visual effect of the distortion. I would say the same about the angel wings you are seeing. While its a cool idea, I don't think that was the intention. I think the reason it centers around him is because he is the dark shape surrounded by white, so with the distortion it overlaps the image twice and scoots it up the frame a tad. If only angel wings appeared, it would be one thing, but the whole frame is glitching out.

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LJonesy
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Sha Noran wrote:
I see exactly what you mean in the video, but there's no way we can say those are angel wings but the person in the window is just distortion. After a lot of discussion, the figure that seems to appear in the window was ruled a coincidental visual effect of the distortion. I would say the same about the angel wings you are seeing. While its a cool idea, I don't think that was the intention. I think the reason it centers around him is because he is the dark shape surrounded by white, so with the distortion it overlaps the image twice and scoots it up the frame a tad. If only angel wings appeared, it would be one thing, but the whole frame is glitching out.


I concede, thanks for the thought guys.

Perhaps my imagination is running a little wild with this. It doesn't fit in with the story in any way I suppose.

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Lithp
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Tim did save Jay. Yes. It's not like I expect him to actively kill Jay, & he may not even have anything nefarious in mind at all. It's just that I wouldn't trust him in general, since he has lied, he has hidden things, he has acted questionably, & so on.

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TheOperator
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I know you've already dropped this but I thought I'd explain the reason for the "angel" shape anyway. It's actually there because the distortion at that point and in that area takes the form of TO's chest(TO's figure in this scene does get duplicated, distorted and overlaid a few times, this is one of those times). The "head" is TO's tie (notice how long and thin it is), the whiteness around the "head" is his shirt and the wings are the jacket of his suit. It's even possible to make out TO's thin arms sprouting from what looked like the wings.

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ToTheFading
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TheOperator wrote:
I know you've already dropped this but I thought I'd explain the reason for the "angel" shape anyway. It's actually there because the distortion at that point and in that area takes the form of TO's chest(TO's figure in this scene does get duplicated, distorted and overlaid a few times, this is one of those times). The "head" is TO's tie (notice how long and thin it is), the whiteness around the "head" is his shirt and the wings are the jacket of his suit. It's even possible to make out TO's thin arms sprouting from what looked like the wings.


I have no idea about how any of the effects are done, but looking at it, yeah you're right. That's pretty cool to know, so thanks for sharing Smile

PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:56 am
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Lithp wrote:
Pareidolia.


Shun the nonbeliever. SHUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNN

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Lithp
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I had to Google that term to even begin to know how to spell it.

I am a psychology major.

I can't begin to describe to you the level of failure that I feel.

I honestly see the actual explanation even less than the angel wings.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:33 pm
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Omberto
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As much as people don't want to hear it, I don't think we should fully trust Tim. We know he has Masky Form, and in my eyes I wonder how deep the corruption goes. Is this Tim saving Jay's ass? Or Masky taking the game in a new direction?

Personally, I trust Alex more than Tim.

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