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[VIDEO] Entry #76
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Greenman
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sp103 wrote:

#2. Tim knows who Hoody is and hasn't revealed that to Jay.


Wait, what in the entry indicates this?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:49 pm
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SilentMedusa
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I thought the reason Jay didn't remember his trip to the other side of the tunnel was because he was chasing TiMasky at the time, and therefore had other things on his mind. That's what he seemed to be implying, before Tim cut him off irritably to point out that he didn't remember that, and confirmed that he didn't remember any of his actions as the Masked Man.

Different subject: I just rewatched, and it looked to me like Jessica dropped the gun and picked the flashlight back up just before she ran away. For whatever that observation's worth.

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its worth a lot, it also means Alex was the last to have the gun. And it explains where the gun had gone, but does that mean Hoody has his own gun, or the same gun.

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CraicIsMighty wrote:
But why would they need Jessica to get to Alex? They already know where Alex lives, they could just attack him in his house. Also, they knew that Alex still had that gun. Why wouldn't they try to get that away from him first? Also, when Alex did turn up Hoodie ran off. S/he acted like s/he wanted to hide from Alex, not confront him.


I think this idea is going in the right direction as Masky left to go back for Jay I bet, found The Operator, and fled back to Jessica/Hoody, only to get there too late.

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Katsatitagain wrote:
its worth a lot, it also means Alex was the last to have the gun. And it explains where the gun had gone, but does that mean Hoody has his own gun, or the same gun.


Well if Alex was tied to a chair, I think it would be safe to assume he took the gun off of him.

I wonder though, where is the gun now? Last we saw it was in Hoody's hands...

PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:42 pm
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Marble Hornets wrote:
Xman wrote:
Craig Digsby wrote:
If this entry happened after #32, why is Jessica wearing a totally different shirt in #76? The shirts from #52 and #76 are clearly the same, so wouldn't that point towards this entry taking place after #52? In the last shot, she looks like she's wearing something different from what she was wearing when Masky carried her out of the hotel.

Continuity error? I think not. Trosephim isn't that careless.

Trying to compare shirts with this kind of footage is difficult. I'm pretty sure that it's supposed to be the same outfit she was wearing in Entry #32, though, just unbuttoned. Also, even if it is a different shirt, it's possible she could've changed when Jay and her were about to leave.

geekgirlinthefedora wrote:
Yeah, I can't believe they would let something like that slide. The whole slendersick thing is way too big of a deal for that.

Slendersickness isn't a concrete thing. It only happens sometimes, and other times it doesn't happen at all. There really aren't any known rules or conditions to when it's going to occur. With that in mind, it doesn't really matter that she wasn't coughing.

Not sure why people focus so much on slendersickness, to be honest. I always viewed it as a side thing that happens. People just cough when around the Operator sometimes.

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Omberto wrote:
MascaraSnake wrote:
I'm not 100% sure here, is this the first time we've seen somebody get to the other side of the tunnel?


It is, but it begs the question: What side of the tunnel did Masky and Hoody take Jessica to to start with? Did Alex lead her back into the Rosswood we know? Or onto the other side?

They walked over the rocks before entering the tunnel, and those are on the "known" side. The footage isn't very clear while she's running out to the "unknown" side, but it doesn't look like there are any rocks there.

Not replying to you guys in particular, but on the subject of "the other side of the tunnel," I have some thoughts. A lot of you seem to think that the other side of the tunnel is supposed to be something significant or scary or whatever. I think it supposed to be more of the tunnel itself that's the important thing here, not what's on the other side. Jay's been on the other side in Entry #50. It's just more forest over there. Maybe the Operator's more active over there, who knows. I just think we shouldn't get too up in arms about the other side when it's probably not that intense of an area to begin with.



How do you explain Alex's "leave, now." then? Surely the other side has to have some significance, especially given that they had a dialogue between Jay and Tim where Jay mentions being over there once and not remembering it.


I dunno why, but the footage of that area reminded me of the indented thicket, the one near that trounced field with the chimney... What was the deal with that place anyway..?

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Marble Hornets wrote:
How do you explain Alex's "leave, now." then? Surely the other side has to have some significance, especially given that they had a dialogue between Jay and Tim where Jay mentions being over there once and not remembering it.

Like I said, I think the tunnel itself is more significant. Perhaps Alex wanted them to leave for the sake of them just being in the tunnel. I mean, yeah the other side could have some significance, but I think people should calm down with the whole "how did hoody get around to the other side!!", like it was some impossible act.

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Marble Hornets
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Didn't they say at some point in the series that nobody has been on the other side of the tunnel or something? That's what causes Jay to say that line.

Jay also says in 64 "something's on the other side alex doesn't want us to see! lets go!" - that could be a huge red herring, but it could also be a dead giveaway.

I'm not arguing in favor of the other side is the ark theory, but the fact that they've brought up the other side of the tunnel multiple times has to mean something. If it was just another normal area they wouldn't have brought it up.

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The tunnel just seems to be one of several places where the Operator's presence is the strongest, which Alex has been gathering in his ever growing collection of sacrificial grounds. We know one is Alex's house (until it burned down after S1), one is the red tower in the park, one is the field outside Tim's house, another is the burned out school which Alex was a big fan of for a while, and then there's the tunnel.

That's why Alex doesn't just go around smacking people in the head whenever he feels like it - the Op ain't gonna just show up wherever - and it's also why he doesn't need to drag every single victim to one specific location. Choice is convenience! Very Happy

Now it might turn out that some Operator stomping grounds are more important than others, but so far I don't think we've seen any indication of that.

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I never bothered posting here because I wouldn't add anything new, but I just realized a metaphor.

I just find it cool and interesting that Jessica's face is not shown until she is woken up. She is "knocked out" or heavily affected by TO. JUST SAYIN' IT'S A COOL METAPHOR (or some form of it)

to add on to the Tunnel argument, I always assumed it was basically where TO lingers around for the longest. His home. So he sees Jessica and is like "Damn girl, you ran out on me but now you come back? **** YOU!"...orr Operator be Operatin"


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QUESTION: if TO was able to snatch Jessica when she walked to the other end of the tunnel and lay her out for Alex, then how come alex told jay and Tim to "leave now" when they were about to walk to the other side? Wouldn't alex want them to walk to the other side so TO could snatch them up for him? Alex obviously wants to find Tim and jay.
EDIT: I apologize, I didn't see that was asked already. But can someone please clarify?

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So this is how I see it:

At the end Masky and Hoody failed to save her, so Masky takes off the mask. Tim is now in the woods near a camera. He sees this tape. Jay isn't in this video so he does not associate him to the events yet. He goes to get mental help.

Jay pops up and Tim doesn't make the connection to everything until he sees Hoody. So he searches for MarbleHornets, he's super pissed at being used by Jay and never gets around to telling him about Jessica because he wants it all to end.

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You know, this Entry makes me retroactively scared for Jay. Even more so than others. I mean, #49 made me realize the if Jay had parked in a less populated area in #47, that easily could've been him. But this one... Jay had no memory of what went down in #52. Now that we know Alex was actively searching for him and Jessica after that, it paints a scary picture: at any time during Jay's outings between Entries #27-33 he could have crossed paths with Alex, and he would have had no idea the danger he was in. He wouldn't have thought anything of Alex asking him to come with him to an isolated location, especially if he added a promise of explaining all the craziness Jay had experienced. Jay would probably have just been happy to have his friend back. When I thought of all this it chilled me to the bone.

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SilentMedusa wrote:
You know, this Entry makes me retroactively scared for Jay. Even more so than others. I mean, #49 made me realize the if Jay had parked in a less populated area in #47, that easily could've been him. But this one... Jay had no memory of what went down in #52. Now that we know Alex was actively searching for him and Jessica after that, it paints a scary picture: at any time during Jay's outings between Entries #27-33 he could have crossed paths with Alex, and he would have had no idea the danger he was in. He wouldn't have thought anything of Alex asking him to come with him to an isolated location, especially if he added a promise of explaining all the craziness Jay had experienced. Jay would probably have just been happy to have his friend back. When I thought of all this it chilled me to the bone.


Oh god, I never thought of that. And Alex is such a manipulative bastard that he could have just as easily gotten Jay to follow him as he did Jessica. He can be quite the charming psychopath when he wants to be.

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SilentMedusa wrote:
You know, this Entry makes me retroactively scared for Jay. Even more so than others. I mean, #49 made me realize the if Jay had parked in a less populated area in #47, that easily could've been him. But this one... Jay had no memory of what went down in #52. Now that we know Alex was actively searching for him and Jessica after that, it paints a scary picture: at any time during Jay's outings between Entries #27-33 he could have crossed paths with Alex, and he would have had no idea the danger he was in. He wouldn't have thought anything of Alex asking him to come with him to an isolated location, especially if he added a promise of explaining all the craziness Jay had experienced. Jay would probably have just been happy to have his friend back. When I thought of all this it chilled me to the bone.

Yes!!! This also creeped me out. TO wiped jays memory in the hotel probally so he can trust alex again. Masky really saved his life by scarring him out the hotel. Hoody and masky probally had a hint that Alex got a bead on them. Someone also mentioned that masky let jay collect all the tapes from the safe. This allowed jay to see alex was a threat to be avoided. Although jay didn't immediately see the footage of Alex pointing a gun at him, he was still able to see alex wanted to stab Tim in the house. That alone probally would've had jay second guessing Alex. The question is; did TO wipe jays memory so he would trust alex again thus letting Alex kill him?

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