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pipete21
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Spritey wrote:
Maybe she's in that weird ass underground place Tim teleported to? He got out, maybe she got out? Or maybe she's still stuck there.

That place is probably the ark. Hoody just wants to find it so he can reunite with all his Marble Hornets pals


You know now that I think about it, if Hoody were Brian,(which is the most likely theory imo), or even Seth, that would make sense to why he's called tta and why he wants to find it so much. Might also explain his motives in wanting Jay to finish what he started so they can ultimately get there together.

Also, guys I think that the way the slendyworld works is that once you're teleported over there, you're teleported relatively to where you were teleported from. So for example, Bruce was teleported from inside the tunnel, so he'd be in that area of the world when he's taken which would explain why Tim saw him when he was taken in #65 I think. It would also explain why he doesn't see Jessica around or anyone else that may have been "gone" because they were probably taken from somewhere else.

I also remember that same entry that Tim told Jay to just go, and now I think it might have been so he could go to that world and see if Jessica is there, or it could just be he didn't want Jay getting hurt too.

I also believe that Jessica is alive, just stuck in that world maybe with some other cast members, and that one the final entries will involve a voluntary trip into there to save them, maybe jay will go in there and take out Jessica bit stay behind himself.

I think the next entry will probably be Jay heading to South Creek Road, where he probably assumes Tim will be, along with (probably) Hoody who has captured Alex, then we'll find out what's going on straight from Hoody(maybe a reveal?) and Tim, and maybe they'll interrogate Alex if they can.

....maybe

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Master of Octopi wrote:
Craig Digsby wrote:
sp103 wrote:
Jessica is not dead.


Yes, she is. We saw Alex take back the gun, so he probably shot her.
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Just a thought: how did Alex shoot Jessica when he had to pick up the gun that she had taken? We see Alex pick up the gun and walk away, meaning that he had to actively recover it; therefore, Alex did not shoot Jessica prior to the shot of him picking his gun up.

I'm not saying that she is alive or that Alex wasn't the one who killed her, only that the evidence on the tape suggests otherwise (unless I have missed something).


He definitely looks like he not only took the gun off her (He had it in the tunnel, she took the torch and ran so maybe TO arranged some random Mexican standoff/duel in his dimension?) Alex actually looked like he had been searching her for something and not in a stance to shoot her.

The tunnel is interesting; if you go in, not all of you comes out. Maybe it is where Alex became "converted" to TO and he brings people there not to kill them, just to wipe out their identities and to be come willing minions to TO? The path where Jessica is last seen (and Tim and Alex) could that be the other side of the tunnel? I do not recognise that bush and it is less dense than what she was running through whilst being pursued by TO, Alex, Hoodie, Tim etc.

The real question would be why does Alex lure people to the tunnel to kill them? He is a really bad executor! If he was sacrificing them to TO why not a more ritualistic and gruesome form of killing (myths wise people had their organs cut out, put back in their bodies in plastic bags and the body hanging from a tree)? It seems like Alex is not trying to kill Jessica but to give her to TO for some reason.

Also, if you are fleeing 2x guys who kidnapped you, a guy you thought you knew who pulls a gun on you, why would you run towards a faceless man, in the dark, wearing a suit in thick bush? She was not afraid of TO until he got in her face/ she didn't even recognise what it was??

More questions than answers is all I can say! Wink

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It's obvious that Alex is still a threat, and while it's odd that Masky and Hoody brought Jessica into Rosswood, it doesn't seem like they're actively trying to hurt her; Hoody DID charge Alex when it seemed like he might attack Jessica after she took his gun. We'll have to see, but it seems more like maybe they were trying to just escape and end it once and for all rather than harm her.

I think Tim hiding this means simply that he didn't think Jay was stable enough to handle the possibility that Jessica really is dead. Tim's survived going through the Operator's world before, it seemed, so it's possible Jessica did too (and it looked kind of like she was still breathing). It looked to me like Masky got there too late to help and then took off the mask, rather than like he was helping the Operator.

I almost thought the Operator was simply going to teleport Jessica out of the woods at first.

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I just want to point out that more than likely, TTA is a lying sack of shit too. So why is anyone using that bullshit as proof that Jessica is alive?

She wasn't moving in that last shot of her. She looked dead. I'm going to assume she's dead until I'm shown otherwise within an Entry.

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Yuki wrote:
It's obvious that Alex is still a threat, and while it's odd that Masky and Hoody brought Jessica into Rosswood, it doesn't seem like they're actively trying to hurt her; Hoody DID charge Alex when it seemed like he might attack Jessica after she took his gun. We'll have to see, but it seems more like maybe they were trying to just escape and end it once and for all rather than harm her.

Very likely this. Clearly, both Hoody and Masky know that Alex survived his encounter with Masky, when he saved Jay and Jessica. Hoody probably became aware that Alex knew where J & J were holed up -- since Jay didn't remember the circumstances of coming to the hotel, he'd been very incautious about revealing his location -- and was coming for them. They used the means available to get them both out of there. Since Alex was on hand to snag Jessica as they were taking her away, it was probably just in time.

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I shall take the wait-and-see party in this. Honestly, I think it could go either way: Jay could just accept that Jessica's dead and continue on anyway, or she could be found at a later date.

An interesting plan of action, Jay calls it quits, like with the end of season 1 before the video of Alex came in. Then, he sees Jessica, alive and well. Overjoyed, he continues his investigation, heading to the address. When he arrives, however, the place is trashed and Hoody's body is lying on the floor, dead. There's a note from Tim telling Jay where they can meet up. Hoody could be unmasked then and there, or their identity could be left a mystery.
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These are the frames before and after Jessica was taken. It appears that the place after she was taken "changed".

Is this significant?
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Ok, I've read pretty much every page but there are some I didn't, so please excuseme if I am rewriting what someone said before:

For those complaining about characters hestiating when trying to kill someone: do you really think killing someone is that easy? I mean, phisicaly it is easy to kill someone, we are kind of fragile, but I don't think is that easy to pull a trigger knowing you are going to kill someone. . I think Alex is not good, but still he is human that once was a good guy. The only time we KNOW he has killed someone was when he killed Bruce, and Alex seemed pretty out of it in that Entry, really crazy. In the other "normal" circumstances, he has beaten up people, but not killed them. And with the gun, he could have easily killed Jessica and Jay, but he didn't and he acted as he didn't really want to kill them, more as he HAS to kill them "because of Jay's fault."
I think the same is for Hoody. When he has the gun, he didn't kill Alex inmediatly, because, come one, it is not realistic at all. If you would pull a trigger and murder someone without even thinking about it first, with no regret at all, well, now I can tell you I am afraid of you, little psychopaths xD

Also, some people has mentioned it, but I want to highlight it: The image of Alex mixed with the Operator is REALLY disturbing and I think it has clear implications.

For Masky and Hoody carring Jessica to the woods, I think it is because they always hide there, it is like they are atracted to Rosswood, but I think they were clearly trying to help her in their always weird way.
Ok, it is a long post, but I had to write it it.
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KestrelRocket wrote:
These are the frames before and after Jessica was taken. It appears that the place after she was taken "changed".

Is this significant?


I wouldn't think so, maybe just a tiny OOG mistake or the wind.

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Maybe Tim kicked the camera as he walked by, on accident?
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Im going to say we will get a new tweet today. Jay should have gotten enough sleep Very Happy.

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Timmy wrote:
KestrelRocket wrote:
These are the frames before and after Jessica was taken. It appears that the place after she was taken "changed".

Is this significant?


I wouldn't think so, maybe just a tiny OOG mistake or the wind.


Yeah. Maybe it's just the different angle or the sunlight being covered by clouds. Smile

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Greenman wrote:
KTsteve wrote:

I'm sorry I don't have the exact quote for it not being an origin story, but we have it posted back in multiple threads and i'm far too lazy to go find it again to post it in yet another thread. But the commentary from Trosephim was along the lines of "there were a lot of people who thought this was the operators origin story, but it was just Alex trying to be creepy"


Alright, fair enough.

And for the record, I wasn't trolling. I was actually under the impression that was supposed to be the origin story, and I didn't follow this forum much in the past.


Oh sorry I didn't notice this earlier, telling people to stop feeding the trolls was aimed at the people arguing with serum, not you, I figured you were new hence why I actually answered :3

Marble, people would take you more seriously if you weren't using your only defense as "TTA said so!!!!" when TTA likely has similar goals to Tim, if not being on the same team entirely.

There is plenty of other evidence to her being alive you could quote. Like Alex never shoots her, he doesn't even point the gun at her since she stole it. He just picks it up, and walks away. You also see her breathing in the last shot.

Right now it's most likely she's alive, but got heavily mindraped like when we saw Tim go to the slendy dimension. Since from the 2 instances of the slendy realm we've seen (Bruce, and Tim) Tim was alive when he was sent in their and got out alive, but really messed up. Bruce was dead when he was sent in their, and is still in their.

There is the possibility she is dead but that relies on an OOG mistake, a red hearing TTA cipher, and an off screen death. Occams razor guys...

Also I just realized, the time we saw Jay all slumped in the hall way with the dark rings under his eyes? I'll bet that was just after he got mindraped through the slender dimension. Tim had similar circles after he got back from it.

The whole "why didn't she shoot Alex or hoody?!" thing should be obvious guys... She just met Alex, she doesn't remember anything. She only remembers Amy, which is how he got her to follow him ("do you remember Amy? I'm her friend"). He pulled the gun on her, screaming about how it's all Jays fault. Once she gets the gun she is no longer under any threat, this man is insane but as far as she knows he's not dangerous. She's in control, there's no reason for her to kill a stranger. She could even possibly get some information. However, the hooded man comes running, again a complete stranger. She's not sure if he's an ally or not. This is probably the closest she came to shooting anyone, because a mysterious person charging at you is scary. Then she realized she doesn't know if he's an enemy, but she knows he's not on the same side as Alex. She is sure Alex is an enemy. "The enemy of my enemy is an ally". She takes this as a chance to run because she's still not sure hoody won't attack her after he's done with Alex.

This happened during 53.

There are a lot of awesome things to discuss this entry guys... and you are arguing over the most useless ones and letting gems get buried. like this awesome quote from 63 dhawk found:

TIM: Do you know where she is? Do you know if she's even still alive??
JAY: I just want to find out what happened to her! Maybe it can help us if I know if she's alive or dead! It's kind of my fault that she's in this mess in the first place!
TIM: OK. Yeah, yeah! We've got a bigger problem to deal with right now. There's somebody out there who's an immediate threat to both of us!
JAY: Someone who's probably watching us right now, now that you mention it!
TIM: Probably! They know where I live! We need to deal with it right now, and if we do that, then, sure, I'll help you find Jessica. Whatever it is I've gotta do. …Deal?

The further foreshadowing of Alex turning more operator like with the overlaying of their images during the distortion.

How the hell does Alex always seem to find who he's looking for, or at least know where they are? We've seen Alex successfully hunt down people in the woods so many times without explanation of how he knew they were there. (Tim in the hospital comes to mind most strongly)

Edit to avoid double post: Also, I think Masky at the end was tracking Jessica to try and see if he could still rescue her. Like he somehow knew where she was. His masked state trance or whatever starts wearing out at this point. He gets to the location she is, fully regains conciousness, and removes his mask to symbolize this.

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I'm sorry, but as much as I try, I see no breathing in that last shot of Jessica.

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twistedpuppet wrote:
I just want to point out that more than likely, TTA is a lying sack of shit too. So why is anyone using that bullshit as proof that Jessica is alive?

She wasn't moving in that last shot of her. She looked dead. I'm going to assume she's dead until I'm shown otherwise within an Entry.

Never. Assume. Anything.
Let's just wait and see what happens.

pipete21 wrote:
Spritey wrote:
Maybe she's in that weird ass underground place Tim teleported to? He got out, maybe she got out? Or maybe she's still stuck there.

That place is probably the ark. Hoody just wants to find it so he can reunite with all his Marble Hornets pals


You know now that I think about it, if Hoody were Brian,(which is the most likely theory imo), or even Seth, that would make sense to why he's called tta and why he wants to find it so much. Might also explain his motives in wanting Jay to finish what he started so they can ultimately get there together.

Also, guys I think that the way the slendyworld works is that once you're teleported over there, you're teleported relatively to where you were teleported from. So for example, Bruce was teleported from inside the tunnel, so he'd be in that area of the world when he's taken which would explain why Tim saw him when he was taken in #65 I think. It would also explain why he doesn't see Jessica around or anyone else that may have been "gone" because they were probably taken from somewhere else.

I also remember that same entry that Tim told Jay to just go, and now I think it might have been so he could go to that world and see if Jessica is there, or it could just be he didn't want Jay getting hurt too.

I also believe that Jessica is alive, just stuck in that world maybe with some other cast members, and that one the final entries will involve a voluntary trip into there to save them, maybe jay will go in there and take out Jessica bit stay behind himself.

I think the next entry will probably be Jay heading to South Creek Road, where he probably assumes Tim will be, along with (probably) Hoody who has captured Alex, then we'll find out what's going on straight from Hoody(maybe a reveal?) and Tim, and maybe they'll interrogate Alex if they can.

....maybe

I'm really liking this idea. Very Happy
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