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Jessica's Fate

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Peppercorn
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I definitely have to say alive, since she just seems too important to be killed off so abruptly and without enough clarification on her being dead. Plus, THAT WAS THE HARDEST CODE THEY'VE EVER DONE.

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ledzepfilm
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Her body seemed pretty lifeless, guys. Don't give me stuff like "SHE'S BREATHING" because that is an OOG reason. Again. Trosephim would take extra measures to make sure that we all know that Jessica is alive.

Basically, what we can all confirm is that Jessica is gone. Missing. Gone, alive or dead in the slenderverse. There's no chance that Jay will find her.

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TheJoker
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Said it before, will say it again: Want her to be alive and think it's possible, but believe it's more likely she's dead, because it seemed like that was the assumption we were intended to make from this entry. Surveillance's code, while it will have been excellent foreshadowing if she lives and certainly supports that it is a possibility, is not sufficient evidence to definitively state she is alive.

That said, one thing I'll point out: Back in S2, she referenced a dream in which she's a child and "something" is watching her. It's pretty obvious who that was meant to imply, but I also always assumed that it was foreshadowing that she was followed as a child (as Tim and implicitly Alex were). Although it's possible that this was not what we were supposed to infer, I feel like Trosephim put that dream in there to foreshadow some plot point, and such a plot point would likely need her alive to be resolved. May mean nothing, but still.

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ledzepfilm wrote:
Her body seemed pretty lifeless, guys. Don't give me stuff like "SHE'S BREATHING" because that is an OOG reason. Again. Trosephim would take extra measures to make sure that we all know that Jessica is alive.

Basically, what we can all confirm is that Jessica is gone. Missing. Gone, alive or dead in the slenderverse. There's no chance that Jay will find her.




Replace "alive" with "dead" in the first paragraph's last sentence and your argument works against you in the same way it works for you.

I agree that she is gone. I don't agree that there is no chance Jay will find her.

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wassupbro
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Amethyst.64 wrote:


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For people saying 'Brian died on-screen so how can he be hoody' IMO Tim drags Brian off screen at the end of whatever that entry is, js


Nah, Alex walks up to the camera like 30 seconds later.

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searchanddestroy
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Dead: she's barley breathing. Definitely OOG reasons. I could barley see her breath at all.
She's out there could refer to Amy
Alive: We saw no blood
Others have been taken by TO and lived

Idk just my input

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TheJoker
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The breathing is not relevant as an argument in any way. If they wanted us to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that she was alive, they'd have made it more obvious. As it stands, it could be a subtle clue that she lived or it could have been a mistake, but we are not supposed to know her fate based on the breathing alone. Even if it was intentional, it's not relevant because we weren't supposed to conclude that she was alive, at least not based on that.

The only relevant point is whether or not you believe Trosephim would use red herrings in this series. There are plenty of IG justifications possible for why "She's out there" could have been a lie, which can't be confirmed or debunked yet. The relevant issue is whether we believe OOG that they would deliberately mislead us into believing she's alive. Because they went to the trouble of having Jay propose that "she" was Jessica via Twitter, so clearly they did intend us to believe at the time that "she" referred to Jessica.

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geekgirlinthefedora
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Marble Hornets wrote:
Plus, they would have shown Alex kill her. It wouldn't be hard to show him pointing a gun at her lifeless body and pulling the trigger and then have the operator take her.


If Jay wouldn't show Alex killing some random stranger (Beardy), I seriously doubt that he would should the murder of someone he cared about.

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geekgirlinthefedora wrote:
Marble Hornets wrote:
Plus, they would have shown Alex kill her. It wouldn't be hard to show him pointing a gun at her lifeless body and pulling the trigger and then have the operator take her.


If Jay wouldn't show Alex killing some random stranger (Beardy), I seriously doubt that he would should the murder of someone he cared about.

But he did show Alex strangling him to near death, show him about to bash his skull in with the rock, and show us the aftermath. And I doubt Jay would've edited out her death without telling us what he'd cut out. So he hasn't seen her death either, in all likelihood- if anyone is deciding whether or not to show it onscreen, it's an OOG decision.

I do agree that if they didn't want it to be slightly ambiguous, they could've at least shown Alex shooting the gun at an offscreen Jessica or let us hear the gunshot. But the image of Alex lifting the gun shortly before cutting to her body seemed to me to imply he had fired it. This coming, of course, from someone with no experience with guns and shooting people, so I have no idea whether that image should have suggested the gun was shot or whether I should be inferring the exact opposite.

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searchanddestroy
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Look nobody's right or wrong. MH's has always been ambiguous on purpose and I don't think they wanted us to know either way therefore everyone's right. I've been following MHs since 61 and even I know not to go to far into a therory in a series that's cryptic and unpredictable on purpose. When going through threads for earlier entries throughout all seasons, it was amazing to see how headstrong people were about things that turned out to not even being significant to the story. This is why I'm an agnostic, because no matter what I'll always be right.

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CraicIsMighty
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Alive, because if people can still think Brian's alive after what happened in entry 51 then I don't see why Jessica can't be.

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searchanddestroy wrote:
Look nobody's right or wrong. MH's has always been ambiguous on purpose and I don't think they wanted us to know either way therefore everyone's right. I've been following MHs since 61 and even I know not to go to far into a therory in a series that's cryptic and unpredictable on purpose. When going through threads for earlier entries throughout all seasons, it was amazing to see how headstrong people were about things that turned out to not even being significant to the story. This is why I'm an agnostic, because no matter what I'll always be right.

But then again, we could also be wrong while also being right.
Schrodinger's Jessica. Cool
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FalloutGhoul wrote:
searchanddestroy wrote:
Look nobody's right or wrong. MH's has always been ambiguous on purpose and I don't think they wanted us to know either way therefore everyone's right. I've been following MHs since 61 and even I know not to go to far into a therory in a series that's cryptic and unpredictable on purpose. When going through threads for earlier entries throughout all seasons, it was amazing to see how headstrong people were about things that turned out to not even being significant to the story. This is why I'm an agnostic, because no matter what I'll always be right.

But then again, we could also be wrong while also being right.
Schrodinger's Jessica. Cool


Schrodinger did it for the pussy.

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searchanddestroy
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FalloutGhoul wrote:
searchanddestroy wrote:
Look nobody's right or wrong. MH's has always been ambiguous on purpose and I don't think they wanted us to know either way therefore everyone's right. I've been following MHs since 61 and even I know not to go to far into a therory in a series that's cryptic and unpredictable on purpose. When going through threads for earlier entries throughout all seasons, it was amazing to see how headstrong people were about things that turned out to not even being significant to the story. This is why I'm an agnostic, because no matter what I'll always be right.

But then again, we could also be wrong while also being right.
Schrodinger's Jessica. Cool
good point Sheldon

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I'm astonished at you guys right now...I wish pravado was here to talk some sense into.everyone

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