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[ToTheArcanine]

First, Schrodinger's Jessica must become a thing.

Anyways, I'd like to point out something.
Our main IG reason for thinking Jess is alive comes from a Hoodie video while our main reason for thinking she's dead comes from a Tim video. If this is what the "LIAR" business is about, then TTA is just as divided about Jess as we are.
That would then imply Hoodie had no evidence to show Tim she's still alive. So why does Hoodie think this to begin with? My guess is Alex thinks he can save Amy, so Hoodie thinks there's hope for Jessica too.

[Geneaux486]

Super-dead.

[UnQuantifiable]

The entire angle in that scene is very slowly moving upwards. There's alot of artifacting cause the encoder seems to be trying to compensate for the angle creeping upwards from the camera. I'm sure if you stare at Jessica's body long enough, you can probably mistake this for breathing. After she was taken away, the camera also seems to questionably be placed at the location of her body (which adds to the creepyness). Sorry guys, she's dead.

[Beidah]

I casted my vote, but I refuse to participate in the discussion. I believe one way, but the other side is just as valid. The situation is ambiguous, and an answer has yet to reveal itself. Until then, we are all wrong, or all right.

[TheJoker]

[Peppercorn]

People can only see her breathing because they're trying to... and the same goes for this alleged camera movement. You won't get reasonable clues out of looking at the video too hard.

[Serum]

[Sha Noran]

This thread is home to some of the most blatant distortions of logic I've seen in ages. I have seen nothing but fallacies so far. Discouraging.

[ToTheFading]

I've got to believe that she's dead. I can't see them having her missing for ages with an ambiguous fate, only to bring her back for one entry and just to confirm the ambiguity of it, just so they could bring her back a second time and dance around saying "Hyuk hyuk, fool'd yuhs!" I really hope that isn't the case. I can see a lot of the arguments for her being alive, and it certainly wouldn't have been difficult for the entry to have been different and have Jay put a text wall describing how she died like he did with Bruce, so it seems to be intentionally ambiguous to make us wonder, but I still believe that she's dead, simply because bringing her back again would be the lamest move ever.

[FalloutGhoul]

[Serum]

[Amethyst.64]

I like how the vote is precisely 50/50
It means a lot of people are gonna have a lot of gloating to do when the answer is revealed...

[paladin181]

Has anyone asked Jay what HE thinks of Jessica's fate? After all, he watched the tape and is messed up. Maybe he'll share with someone via twitter (who can then repost here). I have limited access to Twitter, and no desire to extend my use of it, but someone who uses it regularly may like to ask.

[Sha Noran]

Yeah I find the poll more interesting than the discussion, which is mostly rehashing some of the chatter from the Entry 76 thread. The poll is very interesting - such a divided response makes me think that if Jessica was supposed to be OBVIOUSLY dead or alive, a comment will be made to clarify in an upcoming video (i.e. Jay: [to Tim] "You knew she was dead! You lied to me!" Then Tim doesn't correct him, or something.). I think it was left ambiguous intentionally.

A couple things I just have to point out that are bothering me about the discussion here...

- Whether or not she was breathing is not an OOG reason. It's a classic, telltale sign in film used to determine if a person is alive or not. I think Troy is too good a director and has too solid a vision for this story than to let something so huge slip by him. And frankly, Jessica is getting paid to act for them... You really think they paid someone to come in only to have them fuck up a pivotal scene's big plot point? Now if you wanna argue whether or not she's visibly breathing, ok, but don't admit you see her breathing and say its OOG. That's pretty silly imo.

- Using TTA as a reliable source of information seems ludicrous to me. Yes, I would use TTA videos as supporting or contrary evidence, but that's a lot different than acting like TTA has the last say, and whatever s/he says is the end all be all. Especially concerning what Jay should believe; would you trust your stalker? Hell no, TTA's main thing all along seems to be manipulation of the people involved. If you fully trust everything someone says when you KNOW they're trying to manipulate you, then... You're dumb.

- Saying that Trosephim would have made it more obvious if it were supposed to be one way or the other does not support your argument, but rather makes it seem like you're grasping at straws and reiterates the fact that it wasn't made particularly clear one way OR the other. Basically, you can't say "if she was supposed to be alive they would have made it more obvious" because it is just as easy to say "if she was supposed to be dead they would have made it more obvious". That just devolves into a NO U! argument, which is an argument, not a debate.

Carry on. <3

[aidansean]

She's probably dead because if Tim knew she was alive he would have acted differently around Jay. At the very least Tim is pretty sure that she's dead, so if she's still alive it would take a convoluted plot twist to work. As much as I like Jessica as a character, I don't she's important enough to warrant something like that.