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Marble Hornets
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Beidah wrote:
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Beidah wrote:
You do tend to be overly critical (calling this entry "filler" despite this obviously not being the case) and have a sense of entitlement (saying that this series should start catering more to you and less to "casuals") which is off-putting, Henry.



sounds to me like you are seeing things in a different light because you have a different opinion than me


Couldn't the same be said of you?


Sure. That's the foundation of a difference in opinon. The difference is that I am not the one making a fuss about another user's opinon.

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Jordan
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SnappedSkydiver wrote:
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That ending, holy shit.


It wasn't that much of a suprise for me, to be honest, but it was a nice way to end the entry Smile

However, I'm still firmly in the do not trust Tim at all camp and this all going to end up to be a whole lot of misdirection to make us sympasise with Tim.

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DHawk314
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Beidah wrote:
That's a pretty good analysis, Hawk. Going off that, it's interesting to note Alex blaming Jay for everything just last entry and entry #52.


Thank you, and that's a great connection! The shifting of blame is a constant theme in the series, naturally, as is the result of a series where people do not feel in control of their actions, and where the consequences of minor mistakes are amplified. In a series where Jay calling someone can result in a girl dying, where Tim can accidentally release a monster into the world, and where he looses all control, puts on a mask and begins tackling people. In a series where a perfectly ordinary film student becomes a murderer and doesn't know why it's happening to him.

They all feel guilty and they all try to deflect that, but the unique thing about that guilt is that the guilt is truly unfounded, for the most part. They're right to shift the blame, but it's their consistent failure to shift it to the right source, and the conflict resulting from that, that makes it so interesting.
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CraicIsMighty
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 		Wow, a whole month just for this? A little arguing and some extreme fan panda ring. Wtf.

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EDJE
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 		I haven't read through this thread yet, because I wanted to just mention some things that sprang right to mind.

First off, Tim uploaded this video... right? Did he really, though? He managed to get onto the MarbleHornets Youtube channel, and he edited the video in the exact same way Jay does, with the same typeface, and the same "Start with Entry number, end with closing thoughts."

So that only leads us to Jay uploading this video, either thinking he was Tim, or trying to pretend to be Tim to us. Why?

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Marble Hornets
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EDJE wrote:
I haven't read through this thread yet, because I wanted to just mention some things that sprang right to mind.

First off, Tim uploaded this video... right? Did he really, though? He managed to get onto the MarbleHornets Youtube channel, and he edited the video in the exact same way Jay does, with the same typeface, and the same "Start with Entry number, end with closing thoughts."

So that only leads us to Jay uploading this video, either thinking he was Tim, or trying to pretend to be Tim to us. Why?




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short answer: it was tim, you're assuming he is not a stickler for continuity or that he doesn't know how to identify fonts


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CraicIsMighty
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 		Also Tim left Jay tied up alone in his house even though he knows Alex and Hoodie have both broken in, not to mention the teleporting faceless monster? Tim is fucking retarded.

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DHawk314 wrote:
Beidah wrote:
That's a pretty good analysis, Hawk. Going off that, it's interesting to note Alex blaming Jay for everything just last entry and entry #52.


Thank you, and that's a great connection! The shifting of blame is a constant theme in the series, naturally, as is the result of a series where people do not feel in control of their actions, and where the consequences of minor mistakes are amplified. In a series where Jay calling someone can result in a girl dying, where Tim can accidentally release a monster into the world, and where he looses all control, puts on a mask and begins tackling people. In a series where a perfectly ordinary film student becomes a murderer and doesn't know why it's happening to him.

They all feel guilty and they all try to deflect that, but the unique thing about that guilt is that the guilt is truly unfounded, for the most part. They're right to shift the blame, but it's their consistent failure to shift it to the right source, and the conflict resulting from that, that makes it so interesting.


I've always thought Alex's shifting of the blame was a way to manipulate Jay and keep him alone and more vulnerable, but after entry 76 this seems more plausible (plus I like it more as a theory Razz )

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evanx275h
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Marble Hornets wrote:
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Someone asking me "who the hell I think i am making those claims" is someone who is claiming my opinion is fact. Someone who brings up my "distaste for the series despite me saying I love it" is blatantly ignoring any and all posts I make where I praise entries (such as 65 and the previous entry). If you aggrandize my opinion to such an extent, I am going to laugh at you when you get overtly offended by it, case closed.


It's not about your opinion "being a fact", it's about the fact that you angrily spew half of this crap over the forum LIKE its a fact. People argue it because obviously they disagree, sure, no big deal. But to label those people as "casuals" instead of fans of the series just because they combatted your argument? Dude, that is some shit right there. You're patronizing/undermining people that are enjoying the series like you "do", regardless of how long they've actively watched it. There's no legitimate reason for it, "case closed".



If you read my opinions as facts, or assume I believe my opinions to be facts, then that's on you plain and simple. I never called anyone on here a casual, and it's not my fault you automatically jumped to that conclusion either. I have to imagine if you're posting on unfiction you're a dedicated fan. A casual fan to me is someone who half ass watches it in the background, easily getting confused about plot, and not caring enough to go back to a previous entry to figure out what they didn't understand.

Once again, not my fault you are perceiving things the way you are. The fact that I am talking negative about something you like is automatically creating a negatively biased prejudgement in your head that affects your perception.


I'm not worried about you "talking negative about something I like", I was talking specifically about your response to that user, and seeing things from their end, I still see no point to the WAY you express your opinion. I get it, we all get it. It's your freakin' opinion. Feel free to say it another time, just in case it didn't sink in.

Point being, whether you care or not, or if you believe that being a smartass with the ability to harshly "express yourself" just because you're on the internet makes you feel like a cool kid, then have at it. I was, just like you were, "expressing my opinion" that you're childish and immature. What we "interpret" is on YOU, because your attitude towards things causes these perceptions to be formed based on how poorly you word your points.

EDIT: I realize at this point I'm beating a dead horse with this, so dude, I'm just gonna agree to disagre and move on here. My bad for cluttering up this topic with my shitstorms that don't really matter, people.

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It's all my opinion tho dog, don't get autistic with me like ya do to your penis while readin them stories bout Jay and Tim makin' out.




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Jordan
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EDJE wrote:
I haven't read through this thread yet, because I wanted to just mention some things that sprang right to mind.

First off, Tim uploaded this video... right? Did he really, though? He managed to get onto the MarbleHornets Youtube channel, and he edited the video in the exact same way Jay does, with the same typeface, and the same "Start with Entry number, end with closing thoughts."

So that only leads us to Jay uploading this video, either thinking he was Tim, or trying to pretend to be Tim to us. Why?


While that's a possibility, there's also a third possiblity: Jay and Tim talked about that if anything happened to Jay, Tim would take over the channel and instructed him in video editing so that other people who had encounters with The Operator would at least have some knowledge about what was going on and that they could continue to recieve TTA responses.

What your arguing could have happened, of course, given that the amount of time which has passed since entry #76 and entry #77 (or even entry #75 and #76) and that Jay managed to get ahold of this tape (and other subsquent footage from Tim) and is trying to lure Hoody into a trap.

On the other hand, I'm not sure, unless noted, how seriously we're meant to take out of game time unless it's specifically referenced in the series itself.

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DHawk314 wrote:
Beidah wrote:
That's a pretty good analysis, Hawk. Going off that, it's interesting to note Alex blaming Jay for everything just last entry and entry #52.


Thank you, and that's a great connection! The shifting of blame is a constant theme in the series, naturally, as is the result of a series where people do not feel in control of their actions, and where the consequences of minor mistakes are amplified. In a series where Jay calling someone can result in a girl dying, where Tim can accidentally release a monster into the world, and where he looses all control, puts on a mask and begins tackling people. In a series where a perfectly ordinary film student becomes a murderer and doesn't know why it's happening to him.

They all feel guilty and they all try to deflect that, but the unique thing about that guilt is that the guilt is truly unfounded, for the most part. They're right to shift the blame, but it's their consistent failure to shift it to the right source, and the conflict resulting from that, that makes it so interesting.


I remember reading an interesting theory that The Operator stands for something from the past that they don't want to confront, but always seems to be brought up. A regret of theirs that hangs over their heads, becoming an elephant in the room that just won't go away. A constant reminder of their greatest failure, or something like that.
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Beidah wrote:
I remember reading an interesting theory that The Operator stands for something from the past that they don't want to confront, but always seems to be brought up. A regret of theirs that hangs over their heads, becoming an elephant in the room that just won't go away. A constant reminder of their greatest failure, or something like that.


I really like that theory. Even if it isn't the case, I'd want it to be, because then Marble Hornets would have, atop all of its creepiness and whatnot, a THEME or MORAL to it: running away from your problems, your past, all of it, is impossible. Because, no matter what, it'll always find its way back to you.

Chills.
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 		People think Jay is in danger remaining in that house but you must remember "I have him"


The other two main characters are preoccupied to just leave and head to Tim's house.

Unless "I have him" are not Alex and Hoody. What if Jessica has someone...

DUH DUH DUUUUUH

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evanx275h wrote:
Beidah wrote:
I remember reading an interesting theory that The Operator stands for something from the past that they don't want to confront, but always seems to be brought up. A regret of theirs that hangs over their heads, becoming an elephant in the room that just won't go away. A constant reminder of their greatest failure, or something like that.


I really like that theory. Even if it isn't the case, I'd want it to be, because then Marble Hornets would have, atop all of its creepiness and whatnot, a THEME or MORAL to it: running away from your problems, your past, all of it, is impossible. Because, no matter what, it'll always find its way back to you.

Chills.


Man, this is starting to sound like English class all over again.

I'm trying to remember where I read this theory. It must of been here or TV Tropes, but I can't find it...
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