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DHawk314
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It's been a month since the last entry? Honestly, I didn't notice. Personally, I would advice doing something besides uF. Back when I was a regular I spent all my free time thinking about MH, and obviously if you spend every waking second of everyday thinking about it, you'll be constantly waiting for a new entry. I think letting yourself do other things, not abandoning uF altogether, but also not trudging up the same things over and over again, helps with impatience.

I mean it when I say I didn't notice the month. I do not mean to condescend you guys, I just think you'd all be happier and feel more fulfilled by entries if you didn't spend all your time either analyzing a new entry, or, much more commonly, building up unrealistic expectations for the next one. If you spend all your time thinking about something, it'll never update often enough.

(Also what is fan panda ring?)

FAKE EDIT:

_Snuffles wrote:
I've always thought Alex's shifting of the blame was a way to manipulate Jay and keep him alone and more vulnerable, but after entry 76 this seems more plausible (plus I like it more as a theory Razz )


Thanks bro.

Beidah wrote:
I remember reading an interesting theory that The Operator stands for something from the past that they don't want to confront, but always seems to be brought up. A regret of theirs that hangs over their heads, becoming an elephant in the room that just won't go away. A constant reminder of their greatest failure, or something like that.


Interesting idea...it certainly stands for their regrets, for their deeply ingrained, deep down beliefs that they bit the forbidden fruit that released the Operator. Alex believes he did so with the movie, drawing the Operator out, to him and then to everyone else. Tim believes he did so by becoming part of the movie, after being stalked by the Operator throughout his life. And Jay of course believes he did so by beginning the the YouTube channel, and uploading everything, digging everything back up.

Perhaps the transition to blaming each other is due to them interacting much more. In Season 1 Jay and Alex were isolated. In Season 2 they found, and subsequently blamed, each other. Then in Season 2 Jay found Tim, and they subsequently blamed each other. In fact the themes of guilt and regret were probably affected quite a bit by the writer's rather purposeful introduction of character interaction/development into the plot starting with Season 2. It's a fascinating result.

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Hazman
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@wassupbro not necessarily, as it has been a while, I don't think anyone could hold someone that long. I reckon the next entry will be Hoody rescuing Jay, Hoody will be revealed and Hoody and Jay will team up

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CraicIsMighty
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wassupbro wrote:
People think Jay is in danger remaining in that house but you must remember "I have him"


The other two main characters are preoccupied to just leave and head to Tim's house.

Unless "I have him" are not Alex and Hoody. What if Jessica has someone...

DUH DUH DUUUUUH


Yeah, assuming that note was truthful and someone actually has someone. Assuming it wasn't just a trap set by Alex, and assuming Hoodie and TTA aren't two separate people. Oh, and it's not like there's a faceless mind-destroying monster running around. Yeah, Jay's real fucking safe.

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evanx275h
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I mean, the Operator is a lot like a bad memory; when Jay attempted to leave it and the MH accounts behind, and when Alex did the same following 22, the moment that camera was picked up (a camera being, ya know, the symbol/LITERAL representation of memory recording), the "memory" came back. It followed them.

WE'RE GETTING ALL THEMATIC UP IN HERE.
I want all of you to write a four-page paper on the themes of Marble Hornets. Due sometime tonight. [/terriblejoke]
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Jordan
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CraicIsMighty wrote:
wassupbro wrote:
People think Jay is in danger remaining in that house but you must remember "I have him"


The other two main characters are preoccupied to just leave and head to Tim's house.

Unless "I have him" are not Alex and Hoody. What if Jessica has someone...

DUH DUH DUUUUUH


Yeah, assuming that note was truthful and someone actually has someone. Assuming it wasn't just a trap set by Alex, and assuming Hoodie and TTA aren't two separate people. Oh, and it's not like there's a faceless mind-destroying monster running around. Yeah, Jay's real fucking safe.


...and now I have an imagine of Tim coming home with some vital information which could help save Jay and Tim coming home to find Jay still shackled, but completly Slendwiped with no trace of conciousness left whatsoever.

Sweet dreams, everyone Smile

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Hazman
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evanx275h wrote:

WE'RE GETTING ALL THEMATIC UP IN HERE.
I want all of you to write a four-page paper on the themes of Marble Hornets. Due sometime tonight. [/terriblejoke]


Huh, lolnope. I dropped english 2 years ago. However, I could write you a small program that that could not a whole lot of not much at the moment

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Beidah
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People kept saying that Jay can't run from this, but he actually can. He, Alex and Tim had all escaped at one point, with Alex bringing Jay back in, Amy bringing Alex, and Jay bringing Tim. You can forget about the Operator and move on. Jay could've not gone to the return address of the tape. Tim could've stayed clear of Jay when he found out about what was going on. Alex could've abandoned Amy. They made their choice in getting back involved.

It's nice having some serious discussion on this forum again, by the way.
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DHawk314
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evanx275h wrote:
I mean, the Operator is a lot like a bad memory; when Jay attempted to leave it and the MH accounts behind, and when Alex did the same following 22, the moment that camera was picked up (a camera being, ya know, the symbol/LITERAL representation of memory recording), the "memory" came back. It followed them.

WE'RE GETTING ALL THEMATIC UP IN HERE.
I want all of you to write a four-page paper on the themes of Marble Hornets. Due sometime tonight. [/terriblejoke]


Yes, the recurrence of failed attempts to quit, the belief that they can deal with the Operator just by quitting, or by killing Alex, or the fact that even after the introduction of character interaction, the characters naggingly, noticeably, borderline unrealistically almost never mention the Operator exists, and when they do, they do so in the vaguest possible way. All of those things I said are somehow actually the same thing. I'm getting too tired for this right now though so I'm going to bed, good luck solving the puzzles guys.
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wassupbro
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I think Tim may very well be hiding something.


Entry 72: Doesn't want Jay to open his side pouch in his bag. What was in there? It couldn't have been the tape, that was left at his house (miles and miles away from them) and Hoody found it the very next entry.

What was in that sidepouch that made Tim say "top pocket top pocket????"

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Kraliesrockofepic
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Holy shit I'm late to the game.
So, that was pretty intense and hit my Jay feels, but it really was too long of a wait.
Do any of you remember the one post on here that was saying Jay had begun to disassociate himself from the trauma using the camera? It was one of my favorite theories, and the end of this Entry definitely supports it.
Or maybe, he was afraid something would happen to him or he would have memory loss, and there would be no way of knowing. I'm thinking it's a mix of the both.
Anyway, I hope we get the next entry soon and I'll see you guys tomorrow.

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Ztakk
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geekgirlinthefedora wrote:
Jordan wrote:
I've got an ugly theory here: what if the medication that Tim gave Jay made him more susceptible to The Operator's presence?


Then why would it make Tim less susceptible?


My thought on this is who's to say Tim gave Jay anything at all? We never saw it, Tim only said it and with all the "You are a liar" stuff going around, maybe Tim just said he gave Jay pills.

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Beidah
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DHawk314 wrote:
evanx275h wrote:
I mean, the Operator is a lot like a bad memory; when Jay attempted to leave it and the MH accounts behind, and when Alex did the same following 22, the moment that camera was picked up (a camera being, ya know, the symbol/LITERAL representation of memory recording), the "memory" came back. It followed them.

WE'RE GETTING ALL THEMATIC UP IN HERE.
I want all of you to write a four-page paper on the themes of Marble Hornets. Due sometime tonight. [/terriblejoke]


Yes, the recurrence of failed attempts to quit, the belief that they can deal with the Operator just by quitting, or by killing Alex, or the fact that even after the introduction of character interaction, the characters naggingly, noticeably, borderline unrealistically almost never mention the Operator exists, and when they do, they do so in the vaguest possible way. All of those things I said are somehow actually the same thing. I'm getting too tired for this right now though so I'm going to bed, good luck solving the puzzles guys.


I like how we went off into two different directions. You saying, "you can't escape the past", and me pushing for the characters to move on.
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Kraliesrockofepic wrote:
Do any of you remember the one post on here that was saying Jay had begun to disassociate himself from the trauma using the camera? It was one of my favorite theories, and the end of this Entry definitely supports it.


"It's not the same on film is it? I mean, you know it's real, but it's like looking through the lens gives you some sort of protection from what's on the other side." - a very appropriate Blair Witch quote

Jay, tied up, locked in a house in a town that has not been particularly hospitable to him in the past, without his camera, and a couple cans short of a six pack? Baaaaaaaaad thing.

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Omberto
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CraicIsMighty wrote:
Wow, a whole month just for this? A little arguing and some extreme fan panda ring. Wtf.


Not quite, there's something people have overlooked here:

This video was edited, by Tim before it was uploaded. But wait, Tim left Jay tied up and was going directly to the college, which means one thing:

This video happened a few days ago, presumably the same day Jay tried to contact Tim. So what? So this means Tim's already gone to the college, and whatever happened happened. Ergo, Tim has the college footage, but isn't uploading it right now for whatever reason.

Note also the concluding text. Written by Tim as he attempts to convince the audience, and maybe himself, that he did the right thing. Again, so what? Given Tim has the college and post-college footage, is now the editor in place of Jay, and is trying to justify his actions to everyone, I thing we can conclude some serious shit went down there.

How serious? Serious enough that it doesn't look like Jay is coming back.

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I know this argument has passed by now, but I typed this and left it open in this tab, forgetting about it. Might as well post it now. Continue on with your discussions.

Regarding Marble Hornets, the user.

Honestly, I really think that you should all stop replying to him, unless he actually brings up a good point (which is rare these days). It causes nothing but drama. We could make an entire topic full of the posts that have made in reply to this user. He is obviously a troll, and wants nothing but attention. If not, then he's just a guy who wants his opinion heard, even though he knows full well that no one here will agree with him.

Imagine... a forum where Marble Hornets' negative/rude/abrasive/obnoxious/etc posts are ignored. You can read his posts and cringe, at the same time deprive him of the attention he so desperately longs for.

Marble Hornets wrote:
Someone who brings up my "distaste for the series despite me saying I love it" is blatantly ignoring any and all posts I make where I praise entries (such as 65 and the previous entry).

This may be so, but even still, there are much more more posts from you that criticize the series rather than praise it. You have expressed nothing but negativity and rudeness in your conversations with others on the forum. You refuse to hear anything other than your own opinion. I'm sorry, but I've had enough. This will probably be one of my last replies to you, unless you bring up a valid point, but I doubt you will. I know you're going to reply to this in one sentence and say "cool story bro" or something like that, but I don't care. I've taken the time to say what I want to say, and now I'm done. Good day to you, sir.
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