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Sha Noran
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@Jordan:

So TO only found Amy and Alex because of the YouTube channel? Who knows when #26 was filmed, it only has to be between when Alex moved away after the filming in '06 and when Jay started his YouTube channel in '09 right? So maybe 26 happened, they escaped together and have been on the run. Jay starts his YouTube channel, TO finds Alex because of reasons (tulpa effect, memories, haunted tapes/cameras), he and Amy start the TTA channel to try and scare him off. Alex convinces Amy to approach Tim and draw out his Masky state to aid them in containing the outbreak. He knows that due to Tim's mental problems, he is bound to do so. Jay derps along undaunted, drawing more and more Operator attention to Alex and by extension Amy, so their methods get more drastic. They get Masky out into the house and bait Jay into going back, perhaps even training him or explaining to him to attack Jay. Jay still doesn't quit, so they burn down his apartment. But by now they've realized he's in too deep and his little detective work is likely to resurface. TO strongly exists now due to all the videos Jay has watched by himself and also those on YouTube, but remember IG what we see on YouTube in S1 is only a small portion of what Jay watched. TO lived again, through Jay or thanks to Jay or whatever. So Alex and Amy decide they're going to bait him in and kill him, sending him 26 when they're sure he'll fall for it. Explaining how someone was following him the whole time to know where he was. Alex and Amy have been stalking him for months at this point. So they set up the ambush and give him the tape. Because their success would diminish his power, TO intervenes in the best way he knows how - probably the night of the same day Jay recieved 26, Alex and Amy and Tim got "Operated" or slenderwiped of the whole ordeal, months and months erased, back before to Jay beginning to upload Season 1. This would draw incredible parallels with Season 2.

Amy, terrified and most likely insane, flees as Hoody. She might have had the TTA account info in her purse, on a slip of paper to remember it. Alex would probably be too confident in the memory of something as simple as the password to the account (ala safe code S2) and would not have written it down, also confident he would always be with Amy. Amy decides whatever she can't remember is Alex's fault. Finds Jay's YouTube again - finds Tim. Queue Hoody/Masky team up, because she already knows how to get Masky to come out and play due to tapes in her purse or something (moar tapes!) which is simple anyway - steal his pills.

Alex sees the YouTube again too and sees 26. Queue Jay/Alex team up. Alex wants to get rid of Jay and he thought he already did, but he knows he needs help finding Amy. Due to deterioration of sanity, Alex may be under the impression that TO took her, i.e. she woke up first in Hoody gear and fled, confused and low on sanity, he woke up second and had no idea where she went or where she was, but knows he must have been slenderwiped because of the loss of time. So he assumes TO took her. Eventually he meets up with Hoody and realizes its her at some point - he pieces it all together and blames it on Jay once again, for the YouTube channel. He decides to kill Jay. Jay draws in Jessica, so Alex figures he has no choice but to kill her too. Masky thwarts him in the nick of time, while Amy as Hoody waits to follow them wherever they go when they escape. Jay and Jessica get slenderwiped, because TO has drawn another memory puppet into his little game.

Alex finds Jay and Jessica, once again, through the YouTube channel when Jay begins posting "S2". Amy and Masky try to intervene when they realize he's found them, tragedy ensues. Jessica's gone. Amy and Tim get slenderwiped. Tim gets help, downs meds hardcore and gets a job, convinced he's just seriously nuts and most of that shit he half remembers isn't real, and that he just blacks out for large periods and its got to stop. Amy, without the history of mental illness Tim has, does not cope nearly as well, going pretty much batshit nuts. She now also doesn't trust Tim and believes that he is the cause of her recent memory gap, similar to how she blamed Alex the first time.

S3 also has the underlying possibility of being actually caused by the YouTube, as this is a major reason Tim and Jay have so much contact and end up trying to form a team to "get to the bottom of it", as Jay eventually is able to convince Tim that some of his disturbing memories are actually reality.

I think my brain just exploded.

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Huh?

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Sha Noran
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After the events of 2006, Alex moved. TO followed, and Alex escaped with Amy. Entry 26 might have happened the night of Entry #1. Or the first time Jay saw TO on the tapes. Ya dig?

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Sha Noran wrote:
After the events of 2006, Alex moved. TO followed, and Alex escaped with Amy. Entry 26 might have happened the night of Entry #1. Or the first time Jay saw TO on the tapes. Ya dig?


Though it would contradict the time stamp, your theory seems highly plausible.

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The timestamp would be the easiest editing Alex and Amy had done since starting the TTA channel.

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Serum wrote:
Sha Noran wrote:
After the events of 2006, Alex moved. TO followed, and Alex escaped with Amy. Entry 26 might have happened the night of Entry #1. Or the first time Jay saw TO on the tapes. Ya dig?


Though it would contradict the time stamp, your theory seems highly plausible.


Yeah, and Jay got the text message of the current date of that entry, then found the tape. Coincidence? Nope. Not a bad theory, but based on the false assumption that Entry 26 is before Entry 1. The timestamp of the tape is April 4th, 2010. The date of the Entry was April 18th, 2010. The text message was 41810. Which probably corresponds with the date in which Jay received the tape. Entry 26 footage took place during the current, (then) present day time frame.
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UnQuantifiable wrote:
Serum wrote:
Sha Noran wrote:
After the events of 2006, Alex moved. TO followed, and Alex escaped with Amy. Entry 26 might have happened the night of Entry #1. Or the first time Jay saw TO on the tapes. Ya dig?


Though it would contradict the time stamp, your theory seems highly plausible.


Yeah, and Jay got the text message of the current date of that entry, then found the tape. Coincidence? Nope. Not a bad theory, but based on the false assumption that Entry 26 is before Entry 1. The timestamp of the tape is April 4th, 2010. The date of the Entry was April 18th, 2010. The text message was 41810. Which probably corresponds with the date in which Jay received the tape. Entry 26 footage took place during the current, (then) present day time frame.


An easy thing for the makers of every S1 TTA to edit onto the tape and then text to Jay. Not very mind blowing compared to some of the codes and trickery otherwise employed.

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So, who trusts Tim?

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I do.

They all have their motives right now, however unclear they may be. I think at this point, Tim might actually be one of the if not the most sane person in the game right now. Jay is slowly succumbing to madness, Alex already being insane. We know that Tim's medication is somehow helping him resist the effects of the Operator, and he's gradually getting a grip on reality. He's in control.
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Jordan wrote:
So, who trusts Tim?


I do. While I don't think he necessarily goes about things in the best possible way, I don't think that his intentions are malicious. He's as much an inept hero as he is an inept villain. I think he's sincerely concerned about Jay and really does want to get to the bottom of everything though. He just has his own way of doing things.

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@Sha Noran

I like that theory but there is a problem with Alex and Amy being TTA and Amy being Hoodie and that's Entry #68. Alex treated Hoodie more as an enemy than as someone who he once loved and cared about. I mean he even got extremely physical with Hoodie.

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He did kill someone random though

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Hazman wrote:
He did kill someone random though


That's true so it's not totally out of the blue for him to completely stop caring about Amy. Good point.

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Especially if he knew she was Hoody before then, after what Hoody and Masky have done to him.

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Ztakk wrote:
@Sha Noran

I like that theory but there is a problem with Alex and Amy being TTA and Amy being Hoodie and that's Entry #68. Alex treated Hoodie more as an enemy than as someone who he once loved and cared about. I mean he even got extremely physical with Hoodie.


I knew this would be brought up as its basically the strongest evidence against Amy being Hoody. It is a strong counter point, but in my theory 68 occurs after Hoody has gone completely off the deep end. She's been slenderwiped twice, the first time blaming and then betraying Alex (leading him into a Masky ambush, for an easy example). She also makes it a point to help Jay on more than one occassion, and it seems Alex repeatedly has come to the conclusion that the entire predicament is Jay's fault, so this can only further agitate and enrage him. Also his physical assault sadly doesn't mean he no longer loves her - ever hear of domestic violence between couples? This is comparable except instead of pent up frustrations about household duties or sex availability or cheating, a paranormal entity made his girlfriend forget some of their bond and drive her to forsake and betray him. Cheating is applicable actually; she emotionally cheated on him, in a sense, with both Tim and Jay. All of this is compounded by Alex's own insanity, and his own lost memories, and his seemingly impossible quest to escape TO. His obsession with finding and killing Jay is almost enough on its own, but given the betrayals he has experienced according to my theory I don't even find it hard to believe he'd hit a girl. The shell of a girl he once loved; the crumpled picture in his wallet may have been all that was truly left of her in his tattered mind. Really though, I've seen dudes sent over the edge to violence in real life just over cheating... What we have here is on a whole other level.

Also, 73 - Hoody had the gun, why not use it? Her insane, confused love of Alex even after all this. Hence why she doesn't pull the trigger in 67 or hold the rock in the forest ambush. She needs a muscle man not just because she isn't strong enough physically but because she isn't strong enough emotionally. I think that this time around though, running out of meds has sent her permenantly over the edge. I can imagine her cackling with glee at the perverted use of Alex's cherished photograph of her as a hostage note about him.

Also the more I think about it, the more 68 supports my theory in a way. If Hoody is Brian, why track him down and only hit him once? He tried to kill him before, or at least it seemed that way on the tape. Alex seems like more the 'beat answers out of him then finish him with a rock' type at that point. It seems possibly his twisted, tragic love for Amy perhaps held him back in a way, letting her slip away. Why hold back at all if he finally had Brian cornered again after all these years... And if it was Brian, why wouldn't he be more shocked by his identity? No, I think in his mind he still wants to try to finish Jay and Tim and rescue Amy from herself. And the way he specifically said "wipe that stupid smirk off your face" was as though it was a trait about the person he was familiar and perhaps annoyed with already. Like say a guy confronts his girlfriend about cheating on him, and she's just like smirking, holding back a laugh. In an enraged moment, a man with anger issues might snap and strike a woman - just once though, not necessarily beat her.

EDIT: I forgot to mention the tapes from the static hole seemingly revealing that part of the big cover-up with burning the tapes in the first place had to do with concealing the fact that Amy was in contact with Alex all the way back in '06. This fits well with my theory - that's exactly what he wanted to hide from Jay and co. when he ran off to be with her. She was his escape, and he didn't want her drawn in.

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