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[VIDEO] Entry #78
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Teedub
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Kaveris wrote:
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I honestly think that they aren't trying to do anything special with the "Last Chance" thing. I think it is obviously just Hoody telling Jay that this will be his last chance to do what he needs to do. And if he doesn't, maybe he will be killed? Or is that too extreme? lol


A less extreme alternative interpretation for "Last Chance": "If you don't deal with this mess, I will."


Yes, maybe so. But Hoody/ToTheArk has always had an emphasis on Jay getting things done on his own. It seems like there is some type of barrier that is keeping ToTheArk from getting things done on their own. Because if they could, what would be the point in driving Jay to do things? What would be the point of the video responses? I hope they answer this soon...

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 		This isn't the first time Hoody has gone on about last chances and the like. This isn't the first time Tim and Jay have been on the outs and Hoody had to play relationship counselor.

Personally I don't take anything Hoody says seriously. He's like an angry parent that doesn't know what to do with his kids at this point.
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Teedub
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 		When Hoody made his debut in Entry #41 (You can actually count it as Entry #39) he seemed like a creepy, mysterious, threatening stalker. Nowadays, he seems to be as human and desperate as Jay and Tim are. Maybe he just needs help in eliminating Alex, because every time he attempts to, The Operator gets in his way. He may not need Jay to do the work for him, but needs his assistance instead. If he is the one behind ToTheArk, he may purposely make the videos threatening/cryptic to ensure that Jay will be scared and do what he says... Maybe that was his idea from the start.

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Sha Noran
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 		Bait for TO? Just like with Tim?

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Zarggg wrote:
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Again, I'm pretty sure that they are playing fast and loose with the timeline for OOG production reasons.

Which sucks for me, because I'm one of the people who was pushing to get a definite timeline hammered out for the wiki. :p


I've been gone all weekend for GMX, so I'm not going to bother reading 11 pages worth of stuff. :V However,
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I asked them about that, Zarggg and they confirmed that the in game time is exaggerated and that they being elastic with due to OOG production reasons. They also gave a way for people to justify the wait in game. When an entry is posted, it's not posted the same day it happens. The event happens. The characters get back, and take a day or so to collect thoughts, go through footage, edit footage, then post. Also, when viewed as a whole, the pacing and the time progression will make a hell of a lot more sense.


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 		So, do you think we'll get another TTA video before whatever happens next happens?

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SilentMedusa wrote:
So, do you think we'll get another TTA video before whatever happens next happens?
Hurm. Probably not, considering Hoody's state at the moment, and considering what all's going down...though who knows. Would be interesting if we did, it might help the TTA != Hoody argument if so...at least a little bit. Maybe. ~shrug~

EDIT: It would also break up the pace of what's been going on as well. Could be a hint towards how long we have left of the story, I feel. If we get a TTA, it'll slow down the pace of what's been going down, and possibly imply that we have longer to go than some people here are expecting. If we don't, and it goes right into it, the pace keeps up, implying a swifter conclusion (to this arc, at any rate).

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 		I think that is likely

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 		It depends on the content of the TTA. A TTA could be used to increase pacing, hypothetically, rather than slow it down. If the TTA's message has a more endgame-ish message than usual, for instance.

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Matoyak
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TheJoker wrote:
It depends on the content of the TTA. A TTA could be used to increase pacing, hypothetically, rather than slow it down. If the TTA's message has a more endgame-ish message than usual, for instance.
True that, but I still feel that even if it is very endgame-ish, it would break up the pace of the video sequences that we have currently. Like:

Tim and Jay fight, Jay gets tied up -> Hoody lets Jay out -> Jay, Tim, and Hoody all converge on the address.

is a faster paced "feel" so to speak than:

Tim and Jay fight, Jay gets tied up -> Hoody lets Jay out -> Hoody goes and takes a break to edit together a cryptic-yet-endgame-ish video and posts it -> then they converge on the address.

Like, it breaks up the flow, which in turn hampers the current pace (even if upon viewing in a series-style binge one-after-another it might increase the overall pace of the story).

Erm...does that make sense? I'm not very good at explaining things Sad

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 		Going to address something.
Assuming both Tim and Jay are en route/ at/ near 79 South Creek, I would also assume that they are both focused enough on the mission to not require a TTA video.
If there is a TTA video, which I think is likely, it may well be directed more at us, the audience, which I would like a lot.

I feel this would be a nice way to do things without breaking pacing and flow too much, as Matoyak was describing.

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 		Yeah I'm beginning to wonder when the 79 South Creek Road entry happens if it's going to be the big showdown everyone's wanting or it'll just be a huge confrontation between multiple characters that we haven't seen in one place together (jay,tim, TO, Hoodie, Alex, etc)

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Starkley wrote:
This isn't the first time Hoody has gone on about last chances and the like. This isn't the first time Tim and Jay have been on the outs and Hoody had to play relationship counselor.

Personally I don't take anything Hoody says seriously. He's like an angry parent that doesn't know what to do with his kids at this point.


Also, "This is your last birthday."

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Thanks for bringing that up twistedpuppet! It makes sense. Even though this is an ARG people following are all aware that it is a work of fiction. Anyone who isn't is clearly insane, so I don't see why it's unreasonable to factor that fact into our suspension of belief to make it SEEM real. The whole fact that this whole thing is seemingly scientifically impossible outweighs the time inconsistency as far as unrealism goes.

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With the way people lose time in this series I don't even know how production delays are that much of an issue. Just walking through a room can cost you half a day when TO is around. Editing footage must be really frustrating when you can get up to go pee and no longer have your door connected to the right room or hall.


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 		The smart thing about this entry is the uncertainty it creates for the next one.

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Because both Tim and Jay are around, have cameras, and have the capability to upload stuff to the channel, then for the next entry - unless whoever uploads it tips their hand - we won't know at first who has put it online, which means we won't necessarily know who's survived the action of that entry until it's over.

Also, having multiple people with cameras for the next entry suggests a rather more ambitious one than we are used to.


Other thoughts:

- I agree we're going into endgame, FINAL WARING (X) would be kind of a hollow threat otherwise.

- The disparity between IG and OOG time bugs me a little. On the other hand, I think it's something which won't be so noticeable on rewatches so hey, there's that.

- Is it too much to hope for one last TTA before we go into that long night?

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