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Who do you think is Hoody and post why.

Sarah
2%
 2%  [ 3 ]
Seth
13%
 13%  [ 17 ]
Brian
74%
 74%  [ 94 ]
Jessica
4%
 4%  [ 6 ]
Amy
3%
 3%  [ 5 ]
Sarah AND Seth. (Possible duo)
0%
 0%  [ 1 ]

Total Votes : 126
 

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Who do you think is Hoody, post your theory after choosing.
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 		I think it's Brian, because he got attacked by Alex and now wants revenge

However, it is possible it's a completely new character and he's simply called 'hoody'. perhaps he was another member of the crew who was mistreated by Alex a lot and they never found tapes of him. It's possible, but I think it's Brian. I guess we'll found out soon though.

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 		We don't really know how well trained or experienced Seth was as a camera man, I myself always thought he was just a buddy of Alex's who agreed to help him out with his project. Just because he was the guy holding the camera for a bad student film doesn't really show evidence of his editing ability; I'll buy the part about access to the b-roll, but I wouldn't agree that this shows he was capable of TTA level effects. Not to say he couldn't be capable of editing on that level, just that those dots are a bit hastily/sloppily connected.

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99% sure Tim is playing Hoody in Entry #79. Extremely similar build, he was on set anyway and there seems to be a cut when Jay gets back up to his feet, since Tim needed to get out of the costume and get outside for the next part of the video.

And it's a hacking cough where the owner's voice doesn't even seem to show through. There are many instances of characters coughing more lightly than that and as such you can hear their voices while they cough. In this case it didn't even really sound like Tim, even though I'm almost positive he was playing the role here. In other words, the cough seems like flimsy evidence to me. A girl wouldn't sound distinctly feminine if they were coughing as hard as that either.


I don't see any cut when Jay get's back up on his feet. Talking about builds, Brian and Tim have similar builds, let alone under a hoodie. As for the cough it's not THAT hard for someone to do a hacking cough, and a female cough probably would (at least the females that are in the series) be somewhat discernible from a male cough.

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Ztakk wrote:
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99% sure Tim is playing Hoody in Entry #79. Extremely similar build, he was on set anyway and there seems to be a cut when Jay gets back up to his feet, since Tim needed to get out of the costume and get outside for the next part of the video.

And it's a hacking cough where the owner's voice doesn't even seem to show through. There are many instances of characters coughing more lightly than that and as such you can hear their voices while they cough. In this case it didn't even really sound like Tim, even though I'm almost positive he was playing the role here. In other words, the cough seems like flimsy evidence to me. A girl wouldn't sound distinctly feminine if they were coughing as hard as that either.


I don't see any cut when Jay get's back up on his feet. Talking about builds, Brian and Tim have similar builds, let alone under a hoodie. As for the cough it's not THAT hard for someone to do a hacking cough, and a female cough probably would (at least the females that are in the series) be somewhat discernible from a male cough.


Jay pointed his camera at the ground and it then moved around and got blurred from him getting up. I think there was a sneaky cut there. Of course I could be wrong since it's a very discreet place to put a cut. My main reason for thinking there's one is that otherwise they'd have gone to the extra trouble of using another actor for Hoody instead of just using Tim. But I also think that build is extremely similar to Tim's, especially when Hoody ducks down while running out of the room. Could be someone else but I'm betting it's Tim.

I could buy that cough coming from a girl, considering the voice didn't show through like the majority of coughing in the series. But I don't think the cough debate will really go anywhere from here.

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 		Right after the possible cut we see Tim start to walk from behind a building out the window. If that really was on continuous shot from where Hoody was onwards, that would be IMPOSSIBLE to block. If there was a cut, that's probably why.
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 		I don't see there being a cut, and there being a point in using Tim for Hoody. To me, by this point they're probably using whoever Hoody is (meaning Seth, Brian, Ronald McDonald, whoever) to be Hoody now. I know that before they had multiple people play Hoody for multiple reasons, but I here it would have been much more work to have Tim play Hoody, then get out of the costume, get to his spot and continue with shooting the entry, and then OOG editing it together for a flawless cut.

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 		The strongest piece of evidence for Hoody being Seth (I'm going with Brian for now just because it seems the most plausible) is, as has been mentioned, the fact that he was the cameraman who would have noticed the Operator, and the sad face when he gets taken in Entry 22.

Regarding the method by which Totheark edits videos, I've had a theory for a while now. We know Hoody affects cameras, most notably in Entry 73. What if he has harnessed that effect to edit his videos similar to the girl from the Ring? It would explain how he makes his videos on his nonexistent budget, and would explain the how and why of some of the more bizarre special effects he uses. It's a stupid theory, I know, but I was forming theories before I was aware of Unfiction, and I have to let them out somehow.

Anyway, back on topic, I'd say Brian for OOG reasons.

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DHawk314 wrote:
Right after the possible cut we see Tim start to walk from behind a building out the window. If that really was on continuous shot from where Hoody was onwards, that would be IMPOSSIBLE to block. If there was a cut, that's probably why.


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Not really impossible to block - Hoody escapes Jay to a walkie talkie in an adjacent room and signals Tim to start walking, or a 4th person observing the filming signals Tim when Jay reaches a certain point. Spoilered because OOG, but this is also off topic, so yeah. I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter who is playing Hoody, especially if it was Tim, because Tim isn't Hoody so its irrelevant.


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Sure, I'm just saying there's a variety of reasons they may cut the take there besides "Tim played Hoody" if we wanna go down that route. Anyway, I wanna make the same argument I made about Hoody's build; even if Hoody was played by someone else, the cough sounds so clearly masculine that they wouldn't have a male stand in if it was intended to be a female character.

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 		Sorry if this has been said before but its been said OOG that different actors have played Hoody in different entries. Therefore, it's pointless to argue about his identity with evidence about his build, the way he walks, or the way his coughing sounds(?).

And I say he because I think Hoodie is definitely Seth or Brian or one of them does the TTA stuff I'm not sure but I'm mostly leaning towards Brian as the actual Hoody we see in entries just because it makes sense to me that Brian would team up with Tim especially since they used to be friends and especially after the whole incident with Alex in the abandoned hospital in whatever entry that was.

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Sorry if this has been said before but its been said OOG that different actors have played Hoody in different entries.


lot of people saying this but I've never seen the source, can anyone link it really quickly?

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Sorry if this has been said before but its been said OOG that different actors have played Hoody in different entries.


lot of people saying this but I've never seen the source, can anyone link it really quickly?


Season 2 DVD commentary I'm pretty sure.

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 		That sounds about right.

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If memory recalls, Troy simply mentioned that multiple actors have stood in for Hoody during filming. After hearing this, some of us collectively extrapolated that we cannot accept the profile of a given actor to be acceptable evidence that their character is Hoody's identity.


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I've decided to just watch the Season 2 DVD commentary to put this to rest once and for all. In Entry #39, when the shadowy figure walks over Jay's car, they say this:

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Joseph: Spoilers I didn't actually have a camera in my hand here.
Tim: What? You just ruined everything.
Joseph: Yeah I know.
Tim: You just ruined the illusion.
Joseph: The camera that the...the person that...walks past that window- (Tim starts laughing)
Troy: Yeah.
Joseph: -is supposed to have is actually filming...them
Troy: Let's just-okay Joseph obviously just said that that was him that was doing it, but, that's just-
Joseph: That's not canon, that's not Alex.
Troy: Yeah...yeah...thanks for saying that, awesome.
Joseph: Whatever
Troy: You're just on a role with saying the wrong thing.
Joseph: I'm talking about ME personally, like Joseph Delage (Troy: Yeah) walking past the window (Troy: Yeah) was not holding a camera (Troy: Miming a camera)


So the shadowy figure was played by Joseph but wasn't supposed to be Alex. It was probably supposed to be Hoody, due to the totheark response (Forecast) and due to Hoody appearing in the next entry, but it's before Hoody's first appearance, and you can barely see him. Basically, whether or not you want to count that as another actor playing Hoody is interpretable.

Okay, the second reference people use for multiple actors playing Hoody from the Season 2 DVD is a special feature of them planning the blocking for Entry #45. In it, Troy does the block planning for Hoody. At the beginning is this message:

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Note: While setting up for this scene, Troy was standing in for the hooded character. It is not meant to imply that Jay is the one behind the mask. In the interest of avoiding spoilers, the actual name has been removed.


I bolded the first part to emphasize that it does not say Troy played Hoody in the Entry. As a matter of fact throughout the actual DVD feature, they say stuff like "______ will do this" "_____ will do that" implying the actor for the actual character played him in 45.

And then there's one last reference people use, from Troy's blog.

http://jtroyw.blogspot.com/2011/05/we-were-able-to-get-out-and-redo-shots.html

In it, Troy says Tim stood in for Joseph to help him shoot 41. At the time, everyone assumed this meant Joseph was supposed to play Hoody and was totally Hoody, and in response to that, Troy posted this blog post.

http://jtroyw.blogspot.com/2011/05/oog.html

In it, Troy basically says he leaves out a bunch of behind the scenes stuff on purpose to not spoil shit and we shouldn't assume he's implying something OOG that he hasn't said. The point is that no, at no point, ever, ever, ever, has anyone OOG ever said, at all, that multiple actors fill in for Hoody, unless you want to count 39, which I don't.

They didn't think it'd be a good idea to have someone else fill in just cause Hoody wears a mask and you can't see their face, which I think would be foolish considering how much MH fans are obviously gonna analyze the body type. They thought it was a good idea because it was shadowy and you can't see jack shit, which makes perfect sense cause you really can't tell anything about the person in 39, so as far as I'm concerned it's a different concept.

pipete21 wrote:
Sorry if this has been said before but its been said OOG that different actors have played Hoody in different entries. Therefore, it's pointless to argue about his identity with evidence about his build, the way he walks, or the way his coughing sounds(?).


Okay, let's say for the sake of argument I buy that multiple actors play Hoody, which I don't. I'd really like to bring up my old point: They wouldn't have a male stand-in for a female character. Not if their body type was gonna be shown explicitly, which at this point it has, and they were gonna have a coughing scene where you could tell it was a male pretty obviously. Even if they do have stand-ins, the fact that they have male stand-ins means it's probably a male character. Seriously, if it turns out they're female, and she just looks and sounds male cause they've had other actors play her, that will come off seriously stupid.

Since I've finally gone through the actual evidence, I'm not gonna go on a big rant about this again. Next time someone says something about Hoody being played by different actors being confirmed OOG I'll just link to this post. Like I say, he could be, but it's totally speculation, having zero to do with OOG confirmations.

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 		I'm almost certain that they said somewhere in the commentary that they had someone else stand in for Hoody. I'm going to re-watch it tonight to check though.

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