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[VIDEO] Quadrant
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Kraehtot
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If the title has something to do, I don't know why should we exclude the Q.

Also, in relation to the typing video: I don't think it has something to do with that. It may have been a happy coincidence that hands "talk" typing, but hands can do it in a lot of different ways (in fact the first thing that came to my mind was language... but I don't think it has something to do). Even if they do type, what does that video mean? Yeah, hands type, but what? We can think of that without the necessity of a video pointing it out. The video has no answer to the decoding of the codes on Quadrant video, hence I am pretty sure it has no relevance at all.

P.S: I said we may need a tweet to decode that one. I guess my intuition wasn't that bad after all Razz
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Oransel
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Nice thread derailment. Mod pls

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KTsteve
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Seriously we need mods on here and active during new entry days to stop stuff like this. First off this is the thread for the TTA entry, not the tweet. Secondly we're not saying the typing video is relevant. It's just the answer to the question he previously asked. The 2 tweets together say "how do hands talk? By typing" That is all it means, the usual cryptic TTA stuff.

Now stop wasting thread space with your inflated egos, and let's see if we can figure out what the code at the end of the video means.

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KTsteve wrote:
Seriously we need mods on here and active during new entry days to stop stuff like this. First off this is the thread for the TTA entry, not the tweet. Secondly we're not saying the typing video is relevant. It's just the answer to the question he previously asked. The 2 tweets together say "how do hands talk? By typing" That is all it means, the usual cryptic TTA stuff.

Now stop wasting thread space with your inflated egos, and let's see if we can figure out what the code at the end of the video means.


I haven't seen anyone actually decode the second tweet other than to google the garbage result and come up with that stupid video. So, why don't you link me to where someone actually deciphered it and actually showed how they did it? I would love to know.

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twistedpuppet wrote:

I haven't seen anyone actually decode the second tweet other than to google the garbage result and come up with that stupid video. So, why don't you link me to where someone actually deciphered it and actually showed how they did it? I would love to know.



http://home.paulschou.net/tools/xlate/

There you go buddy, that's where I deciphered the first and second one
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AbyssalRook
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Let me say unequivocally that I think the typing video....

Is completely unrelated.

Well, not completely. It's the answer to the 'riddle'. However, at the very least, the video ITSELF is unimportant. There's no hidden message in the video, there's nothing special about the video, the video exists separately from the MH universe entirely. What's far more important is that it is typing, which is an answer to the 'riddle' of "How do hands talk?".

The reason it's still being discussed here (Aside from the fact that someone seems to think that the easiest solution, and one that was reached through the same method as the riddle, can't possibly be the right one and we need an FBI cryptographer to decode everything TTA says) is because there is (was?) a possibility that it was related to decoding the message at the end of Quadrant.

However unless someone brilliant comes up with some brilliant new method of being brilliant and relates the two in some brilliant new fashion to unravel the code, and thereby become a god among men on this board, it's pretty safe to assume that the Tweets are self contained phenomena and is nothing more than TTA being cryptic, and thus it wouldn't have anything to do with this video whether typing is the solution or not.

That being said, this code is infuriating me because I know once a solution is found, if a solution exists and he's not just yanking our chains again, it's going to be something ridiculously simple, because that's how TTA works.

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ReverendJ
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Please, twitter talk in twitter thread.

Entry talk in Entry thread.

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ReverendJ wrote:
Please, twitter talk in twitter thread.

Entry talk in Entry thread.


I'm with you on this, too. I can't see the tweets relating to the video anymore.

As for that code...

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IMC
6C9

And just in case the design isn't important (It's been a red herring in the past)...

NE1YIMC6C9

I dunno...Maybe it has something to do with Benedict Hall? Maybe it's directions? Without knowing what's in there, it's nothing more than speculation, really...

IMC is CMI backwards in Roman Numerals, for 901?

I dunno, I'm grasping at straws hoping to give someone more inspiration than I've got.

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Those Google results twistedpuppet posted happen to include something about a keyboard as well, from what I can tell(although the page in question seems to involve some average 4chan-type morons ranting). I think that's good enough proof that the Youtube URL being related to typing is purely a coincidence.

Still though, even if the idea seems ridiculous to you twistedpuppet, using words like "idiotic" and "bullshit" makes you come across as insulting. You can disagree in a civil manner.

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Psychosis687
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Been lurking here for quite a while, and thought I'd share my theory on Quadrant and the two tweets.


1) "Who am I the third" is cryptic, but means something.
2) The first coded tweet ended up saying "how do hands talk"
3) The other tweet was: Zfo4MGJJVUNeVE
4) Decoded once in Base64, you get: dZ80bIUEMyQ
5) Decoded a second time in Base64, you get: u�4l�3$
6) Decoded a third time using Hex, you get: C
7) Looking up Hexadecimal, C is 12. (From what I understood)
8) In Entry 12, you see Alex and Brian (I think) during the distortion, with Sarah (I think) behind the camera.


Now,as for the first coded tweet, I'm not sure what that could be leading to. Only thing I could think of pertains to the typing video people keep talking about. Typing may be a way to talk with your hands, but so is using signs for Sign Language. This bit, I'm a bit shaky on putting any faith on.

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I can't believe this is still happening.

First about the twitter code that may not be relevant to this thread:
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The first tweet decodes to "How do hands talk" using BASE64.
The second code decodes to "dZ80bIUEMyQ" Which just HAPPENS to be the EXACT length, and format of the end of a youtube video url. Seriously type it in yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ80bIUEMyQ Which requires a very specific format.
ALSO this video it leads to DIRECTLY ANSWERS THE QUESTION FROM THE FIRST TWEET. Hands talk by typing.
The odds of a code that this code was decrypted (properly) by Base64 (like the first tweet) AND matched the URL format of a youtube video AND led to an actual youtube video AND that video answers the question posed in the first tweet AND it was really meant to be decrypted another way to achieve the answer twisted puppet is looking for, is so ASTRONOMICALLY SMALL that it is practically impossible. THIS VIDEO IS THE ANSWER TO THIS STUPID RIDDLE. Instead of being mad at eachother, be mad at TTA for wasting our time.

I think the confusion here stems from people thinking this video was just found by randomly googling the code. But that is just how one person got there. I personally saw the code and instantly put it into youtube. BECAUSE I RECOGNIZED THE CODE. Seriously. No way this video was not meant to be found.


Okay now that we can agree that this video was meant to be found. Is it important? I hope so. Otherwise I am very disappointed in TTA. This wasn't very interesting at all. I don't think the video itself is that important since TTA clearly just found the first youtube video with typing in it. Copied the url code, then threw it into a code generator.

However, perhaps the act of typing is important. It could just be TTA saying:

How do hands talk? Typing. How did I communicate with you? Typing. Look at the things I've typed. (this would include the codes, and the video title and description.) If this is true, it would be pointless as we all know this.

OR maybe he is telling us that typing is the answer to the riddle. Perhaps we need to use keyboards to decipher it? Maybe convert between QWERTY keyboard style and perhaps other keyboard styles like a cypher. Maybe we have to put this into youtube after decoding it to see another TTA video?

Or maybe the twitter riddle and the video riddle are unrelated and TTA is just not as good at this shit anymore.

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LBfly
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Or perhaps he's telling Jay to type more on his twitter. Let us know what is going on. We should send him this video via twitter, he will reply if its the right answer.

I believe these tweets can also be a clue to solve the code at the end of the video. How can we relate keyboards to quadrants?

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Im not discussing if the video is important or not, because its not. Its TTA bs again. Im also not discussing if the video is the answer of the second code or not, because it obviously is, for many reasons, but the most important of them alll, typing damn answers the first code.


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I think censura_umbra is right, these tweets are meant to be clues to solving the code in Quadrant and the solution has something to do with the way the letters and numbers are arranged on a keyboard. Like maybe if you shift them over a few keys it will spell out actual words. The question is how you're supposed to shift them. I don't think each line of the code is it's own word because they're so short, so it would probably just spell out a one or two word question. I think it's broken up in a way that you have to do something different to each line (e.g. shift the first line up x amount of keys, second line down x amount of keys, third line down and right, fourth line up and left, or something like that) but again I have no idea how exactly you'd move them around.

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censura_umbra
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I tried converting it to and from Dvorak style keyboards and got only gibberish. Maybe shifting them is the way to go.

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Hi Twisted Puppet! Hi Marble Hornets! Hi Beidah! Let's do some MATH!

Every youtube video has an 11-digit base 64 code at the end of it (0-9, a-z, A-Z, /, +).

Which means that there are 73786976294838206464 unique possible youtube codes. That is quite a lot.

Now, the number of videos actually uploaded onto youtube is a little more difficult to pin down. They don't seem to actually keep track. So let's take a statistic from 2011 that said Youtube had 1 trillion views (http://www.jeffbullas.com/2012/05/23/35-mind-numbing-youtube-facts-figures-and-statistics-infographic/), and just for the sake of having a number, let's say that every one of those people watched a different video. 1 trillion videos. This will more than likely get a number of videos on Youtube much HIGHER than the actual number.

So, what is the chance that a random base 64 11-string code will actually pull up a working video on Youtube? Well, that's a one trillion in 73786976294838206464 chance, or roughly .000001355%. That's about 1 in a hundred million. And remember, I think 1 trillion videos is guessing quite a bit high. The actual chance is probably much lower.

You all are saying that a code on the official Twitter, which when decoded from base 64 (as another code in the same event) gives an 11 character string that has a 1 in 100, 000, 000 chance of even working on youtube, but instead leads to a video that happens to perfectly answer the question "how do hands talk," is some kind of crazy coincidence.

Maybe it is. What a delightful, unintentional red herring for Trosephim if this is the case! Nothing to get insulting or angry about.

But I think Occam's Razor would indicate that we have solved the meaning of the second code. Its meaning is to link us to the video. What we make of it can be discussed, but that video is meant to be linked to, and is meant to be viewed by us.

I'm sorry to participate in the derailment of the thread. I will also post this in the official twitter thread if people want to discuss it (but I also think that the two tweets and Quadrant are linked, so I don't think discussion of the Twitter codes is unwarranted here).

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