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Rain71
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TheoryOfN wrote:
We need to know whose shoes those are. As often as we see shots of people's feet, there's got to be another time throughout the series that shows the shoes AND who they belong to. Anyone down to hunt for a screenshot or something?


Here you go.



Alex. For sure.

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Rain71 wrote:
TheoryOfN wrote:
We need to know whose shoes those are. As often as we see shots of people's feet, there's got to be another time throughout the series that shows the shoes AND who they belong to. Anyone down to hunt for a screenshot or something?


Here you go.



Alex. For sure.


Holy shit , Sweet baby Jesus popsicles, you're right. Shocked

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LiefWolfsbane
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Serum wrote:


Holy shit , Sweet baby Jesus popsicles, you're right. Shocked


So now we know, Alex saw the footage first. Now the next question is Why didn't he destroy it?
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ieisuk
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Not sure if it's said later in the video, but how could Jay have uploaded entry 79? Tim had the footage and lied to us by pretending he was Jay. How do hands talk? With a typewriter.... like the text he used to talk as Jay. Hoody could still have okay intentions, just poor judgement. Tim at best looking like an anti-hero that needs some seriois redemption.

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CraicIsMighty
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I don't know, but Alex has done that before. After he killed Bruce in entry 49 he just turned the camera off but never bothered destroying the footage.

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maddielyne
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Jay could have uploaded Entry 79 with a laptop and wifi connection. I think he definitely uploaded that one, not Tim.
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Jinkxy
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Okay, this is probably minor in the grand scheme of things, but it's bugging me.

I know we've heard distortion from angry Tim, angry Alex, and angry Jay at this point, but it seemed odd that in this case the distortion started from the exact moment Alex fired. Is it not necessarily anger, but distress in general that causes it? Is it only from these three? Is it working like some kind of operator siren, explaining why he so often shows up right around (after?) the distortion begins?

My gut tells me that he's shown up on people who weren't already freaked out before, though. Anyone got an example handy?

EDIT: And why when he was actually hit, and not when he saw Alex or when he saw him raising the gun? Gah. Maybe it was still anger? I'd be pissed if someone shot me. Hoo. Maybe should stick to just lurking.

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CraicIsMighty
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Jinkxy wrote:
Okay, this is probably minor in the grand scheme of things, but it's bugging me.

I know we've heard distortion from angry Tim, angry Alex, and angry Jay at this point, but it seemed odd that in this case the distortion started from the exact moment Alex fired. Is it not necessarily anger, but distress in general that causes it? Is it only from these three? Is it working like some kind of operator siren, explaining why he so often shows up right around (after?) the distortion begins?

My gut tells me that he's shown up on people who weren't already freaked out before, though. Anyone got an example handy?


Maybe entry 54? He shows up in Tim's apartment even though Alex, Tim, and Brian already seemed pretty relaxed and chill.

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Marble Hornets
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Theory time:

Totheark wants Jay to live.
Totheark and Hoody are the same person, but sometimes he is in masky mode while wearing the hoody costume (see: last entry). Masky hoody wants Jay dead.
Tim wants Jay alive. Masky Tim wants him dead.
Alex once wanted Jay alive. Just killed Jay.

When in masky mode, the operator's effects take full control of a person and has them do his dirty work. The operator keeps his victims on the other side of the tunnel until he has done w/e he needs to do with them, his minions(such as alex in entry 50) stand guard. This would explain why Alex was always at Rosswood at night, as well as the name "noentry". His minions also adopt his form of stalking when in masky mode.

Tim and Hoody wear masks so the operator can't read their reactions, and therefore can't tell if they're in masky mode or not as long as they appear to be doing their "job." They use this to trick the operator and to get close to Alex/Jay, possibly even Jessica, without him interfering. Not talking is part of the deception, as is tta not revealing anything of importance to Jay, as that would tip the operator off. The pills allow Tim to stay normal, and allow TTA to stalk/create his videos.


Alex uses the entries (73 and whichever one mentioned amy) to his advantage and leaves fake notes pretending to be hoody. He does this to lure Jay/Tim into an isolated location where he can kill them. In retrospect, the note in the previous entry was pretty useless. Hoody must have been the one to lock the door to the building Alex was in. The one really shitty thing about all this is that if it was a trap by Alex, he was waiting there for so long just in hopes that someone would show up.

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Jinkxy
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CraicIsMighty wrote:
Jinkxy wrote:
Okay, this is probably minor in the grand scheme of things, but it's bugging me.

I know we've heard distortion from angry Tim, angry Alex, and angry Jay at this point, but it seemed odd that in this case the distortion started from the exact moment Alex fired. Is it not necessarily anger, but distress in general that causes it? Is it only from these three? Is it working like some kind of operator siren, explaining why he so often shows up right around (after?) the distortion begins?

My gut tells me that he's shown up on people who weren't already freaked out before, though. Anyone got an example handy?


Maybe entry 54? He shows up in Tim's apartment even though Alex, Tim, and Brian already seemed pretty relaxed and chill.


True; and weirder still, when Tim panned across he didn't even seem to notice him. Gonna check 54 for distortion.

Also, is there any connection between when we see that nice colorful snowy distortion as opposed to visual tears, negative colors, etc? Are different things causing different distortion effects, or is distortion always just, uh, distortion?

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Ztakk
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LiefWolfsbane wrote:
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His hand is down near his stomach when he gets shot. I doubt he'd have been able to turn and half run away, even with adrenaline, if he'd been chest-shot.

We've never gotten a close enough look at Alex's gun to determine it's caliber, but even a .38 special at that range is going to kill you almost instantly in the chest.


Other post Redacted. It's sort of hard to tell with the camera positioning but I'm pretty confident you're right and it's a lower gut/side shot. Which doesn't really say much for Alex's Marksmanship.


Maybe Alex didn't mean to actually KILL Jay.

Also for people who are still talking about Hoody being Jay from the future....please explain how this adds ANY weight to that crazy theory????????


Serum wrote:
Rain71 wrote:
TheoryOfN wrote:
We need to know whose shoes those are. As often as we see shots of people's feet, there's got to be another time throughout the series that shows the shoes AND who they belong to. Anyone down to hunt for a screenshot or something?


Here you go.



Alex. For sure.


Holy shit , Sweet baby Jesus popsicles, you're right. Shocked


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Those aren't the same shoe. Similar style, but not the same shoe. The shoe in 71 goes from the toe of the show to the tongue at a much sharper angle than in 80.


I think it's SUPPOSED to be the same shoe though. Yes I just analyzed shoe styles.

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Marble Hornets
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I also just realized
Spoiler (Rollover to View):

They probably haven't revealed Hoody's identity yet bc it's hard to have their schedules collide with Seth/Brians as filming can only be done on certain days for them. Revealing his identity means they would have to have another person commit to shoots they might not be able to.


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Jinkxy
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Okay, so after watching 54 again, the only bit of distortion is audio, and only for the few moments that the Operator is in frame. So maybe not just a siren, but a power source; no one was freaked out, so he just hung out all invisibly in the corner. Were there any times the Operator showed up among perfectly calm people and then actually did something? Or was at least visible?

Btw, thanks for responding, Craic! Very Happy

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Ztakk
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Jinkxy wrote:
Okay, so after watching 54 again, the only bit of distortion is audio, and only for the few moments that the Operator is in frame. So maybe not just a siren, but a power source; no one was freaked out, so he just hung out all invisibly in the corner. Were there any times the Operator showed up among perfectly calm people and then actually did something? Or was at least visible?

Btw, thanks for responding, Craic! Very Happy


Entry 12 everyone was pretty much calm.

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Memento_Mori
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1) Anyone that says this cements Hoody = Future Jay and explicitly ignores Entry 69 when Alex speaks with Hoody and acts surprised at his identity/asks him where Jay/Tim are is just deluding themselves.

Alex hates Jay to the point of wanting to kill him since that day in the woods with Jessica (you know, before they head to the hotel and they forget they know each other). If Hoody were Future Jay, Alex would have shot him then and been done with it.

Even with an Operator Edict refusing the kill, Alex would still tentatively been told what's up. There is no reason to believe that the Operator is keeping secrets from Alex. Jay/Tim/ToTheArk/Hoody are the liars here, not the Operator.

All of that ignores the fact that Slenderman is obviously a creature that wields great power over space/time. He knows that sending Future Jay back as Hoody would open up a pretty unreliable time paradox (Hoody's creation is dependent upon Jay getting shot in the building, while Jay's only there because of frequent taunting from ToTheArk/Hoody. Therefore, Hoody would be responsible for his own creation).

I, personally, have more faith in Troy and Company to write a story that doesn't involve a potentially story breaking time paradox. "The Terminator" got away with it, doesn't mean they can/should/would even try.

2) I'm becoming more and more convinced that Slenderman is actually the Ark, and the Ark is seen by Alex/Hoody as a way to prevent death.

Think about it -

The basic definition of the Ark is a boat, the biblical example being the ark that kept Noah and is family and all of those animals save from God's furious anger. So, the Ark has to be something that in the least transports something, but more specifically saves from some divine judgement.

When has the Operator taken people from reality to Slenderworld?

When they're dead/dying.

The only caveat to this is Tim, and Tim was thrown back/already proxied. So still, Tim jumped over via Slenderman powers, if only because he was Masky.

So how about this:

Official Unified MarbleHornets Unified Theory

The Ark is Slenderman. He stalks children, potentially, because they have just began life and he wants to check them out. Maybe he's in charge of the beginning of not only death, but life itself? Slenderman is simply this generation's interpretation of Death, but with a practical extrapolation (i.e. that which is in charge of death is also in charge of life).

Alex has been attacking his friends because when they are dying Slenderman can come and take them away. Alex is probably deluded and believes this to be a safe place. Blame it on him being stalked since he was a child - he reasoned/lived with it through resolving that Slenderman is a good being, so you shouldn't be afraid of it but rather work for it. Would explain the creepy origin story when Jay was walking in the woods with Alex about the child molester that got stretched out by the trees - Alex was trying to give Slenderman a tragic beginning as a misunderstood, falsely accused avenger.

Tim never believed that, and has been fighting Slenderman as well as he could ever since childhood. Same with Brian (whom I personally believe to be Hoody).

The one hitch is ToTheArk, which I believe can be explained away as Hoody easily enough. However, I believe it more interesting to explain it as multiple people using the same account, with them all being in the Slenderworld.

Using evidence from this video (Jay being shot) and yesterday's upload (Quadrant, expected to be uploaded after Jay was shot for the purposes of this post), we can connect that ToTheArk is actually the way Slenderpeople communicate from his dimension.

The gradual widening of focus on characters as they're either revealed to be Slendernapped or suspected to be is a major point. "She's still out there" can be taken to mean that Jessica IS still alive, just in Slenderworld. Same with Alex's girl, Seth, Sarah, etc. etc.


That explains why Quadrant's entry is laden with "I'm the Third" and "I can't help you now" (paraphrasing). Jay isn't exactly dead, but he's out of play. He's in another dimension and can't come back. But he can use his hands and make them speak through the ToTheArk twitter/youtube account.

Tl;DR- If you think Hoody is Future Jay, you're fooling yourself. Jay is obviously in Slenderworld, probably author of the most recent ToTheArk video if my theory of "ToTheArk are different people, all stuck in teh Slenderverse" holds true. Also, Tim is screwed.

EDIT: Also, ToTheArk could stil be Hoody, with Quadrant simply be an admission that he can't help Jay anymore because Jay's dead.

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