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Maybe it was Alex's trap?

In the previous entry, we see Hoody coughing and acting panicky. We know he hasn't had access to the TO-protecting drugs lately. Alex could have freed himself and left that note while Hoody was suffering from TO's influence.

Both Tim and Troy go running into Alex's trap. Tim escapes first, but doesn't know Jay is watching. Then Jay, of course, goes running right into trouble.

Both Hoody and Tim have arrived too late to help Jay, who may or may not have joined the choir invisible at this point.

Didn't the last message from TTA say "I can not help"?

And, maybe, as Muskrat says, he needs Jay to enter TO's realm. Goodness knows he's been setting Jay up to run into the Operator many, many times (remember the tunnel where he found Tim's records?)

[Ztakk]

[PortableMuskrat]

[Beidah]

Well, it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong, but I thing the "Hoody = Jay" theory is too far-fetched. I'm sticking with Brian as my candidate.

[PortableMuskrat]

[Piqua72]

[Ithilwen22]

I just read through the thread, and I have nothing to add, other than that I think Jay's a goner, and Tim's going to have to avenge him now.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go cry forever.

[Ascalondion]

While there is little evidence against the Hoody=Jay-Theory (except for #68 ), there is also little to gain from that theory. It does not explain very much of neither Hoodys, nor Alexs, nor TOs behaviour, is only works on the presumption of very fictional theory that has not been evidenced or even hinted in the series (actual time travel and hard time paradoxes) and there is nothing in #80 that actually points towards that direction.

Yes time skips and teleportation have been seen in the series, but only as doings of the operator, who is – as far as we know – the only thing in the entire Marble Hornets universe that has supernatural powers. Except for some early hints that masky can teleport or set up a teleport for Jay (remember #24) everyone's doing has been very natural, without any display of super powers so far.
And even though the operator seems to be able to bend space and time, we have no evidence whatsoever that can go or sent someone back in time. While it's okay to assume he can, it becomes iffy if this non-evidence theory is only assumed, to support another non-evidenced theory, namely that Hoody is future jay.

While it is not false, it seems to be circular reasoning: Why do you assume that TO can send people back in time? Because this explains why Hoody is future Jay! Why do you assume that Hoody is future Jay? Because this TO can send people back in time! Why do you assume that TO can send people back in time? Because this explains why Hoody is … you get me, right?

I think there are more issues we need to address than this future Jay thing. (Not even saying that it is wrong, but if it were right, we hand little to follow from there)

[FalloutGhoul]

[Jibbles]

yeah future jay does not fit the mh aesthetic at all imo

[device]

Remember when Jay used to speak straight into the camera to us, as well as use text? I wish they would do that now.

It really helped establish a connection to the characters. Also, now I associate the white text with Jay's voice. It seems so "off" to see Tim using it now.

[That Fat Guy With The Mas]

Okay, about the same shoe thing. Entry 71 takes place in 2006. We're less than a month away from 2014, so that would mean that Alex is wearing the same shoe from 8 years ago.

[Kraehtot]

I just watched the Entry and...
I TOLD YOU NOT TO TRUST HOODY!
And I was right trusting Tim... poor Jay, poor, silly and manipulable Jay.

*Goes to a corner and cries for the whole week or something*

Even if I started thinking that something weird was going on with all of that, I was not expecting THIS to happen.

If Jay survives (HE HAS TO) maybe he will be able to find Jessica now that Slendy has teleported him to the same place (I suppose).

Sorry, I needed to post something and now I'm going to read the entire thread. I am still trembling.

It was a great Entry, btw. It had me all the time in tension, since de very beginning.


Okay, edit: I don't think Hoody wanted Jay to be dead (or deadly injured).
Now I am more confused than ever before in this series.

[TheOperator]

Well, that was the most shocking entry ever. Looks like MH isn't ready to throw in the towel after all, thank goodness. It sure is exciting when things actually happen. At last, Alex is a real threat. TO is a real threat! And Hoody's keeping up the scare factor from #79. I gasped when Jay first went into the basement because I mistook some cloth for Hoody, then gasped again when Hoody actually appeared. The scariest part is that this is all Hoody's fault for leading Jay on. Although I love the idea of Alex setting some of this up to make it LOOK like Hoody's wholly responsible. It would make Alex both dangerous and cunning.

I also like how eerily silent and efficient Alex is in this entry. Seems like a good bet that his humanity really is completely gone. He said nothing because he can say nothing. He showed no hesitation because he is no longer capable of hesitation. TO has killed the Alex that Jay knew.

Jay's not dead, he's in The Operator's little realm. Maybe Tim will have to go through the Rosswood tunnel to get there. It will be really cool to see Tim as the protagonist now. For real. I mean, Jay's shot, Operated and cameraless. Surely third time's the charm?

I'm seeing a lot of people bringing up Jay=future Hoody. I'm guessing the reasoning is that Jay's on the verge of death here, so the only way he could keep living is to go back in time. And we have already seen TO can screw up time. That might even be why it's dark when Tim finds the camera. There is more hope for Jay than just that however, time seems to be slower in TO's realm, so he wouldn't lose as much blood.

Honestly though, this entry and these theories make me see some ways Jay being Hoody could actually be cool. We'd probably need a little more to go on but... if Hoody isn't future Jay, I still think there's a plot hole with Jay getting the combination to his safe. I see no way anyone other than Jay or Jessica could have left that note. Jessica didn't suggest the combination to Jay in some dark woods or abandoned building, it was a well-lit parking lot that they had just driven to, which Hoody would have had no reason to be hiding around if they're anyone other than Jay or Jessica. Jessica's out, so it'd make sense here if Hoody is future Jay.

Also Brian and Seth are obvious and irrelevant as candidates, respectively. I think Jay would be the only male reveal I could be satisfied with at this point. But let's wait to see his status in TO's realm before making any leaps of faith.

People still pointing out that we've entered endgame? No shizzle. Although I guess different people will feel the climax drawing closer at different times. Personally I felt it starting #75, so it figures that every entry after would make one feel "damn, this is almost it!" As for how many entries left, I'm saying 7-9. Keep in mind, we still have a number of mysteries left. Even if some are left open-ended, a few will need to be explored some more. Here are all the things I'm expecting to see, rather than just hoping for:

1. The Operating doors. Could've gone either way before but now that we have Quadrant, I'll say we're going behind those doors.
2. The tunnel. I bet Tim will go there to try to get into the "dark place". And we need to see the other side's significance as well.
3. What was Tim doing at the college, exactly? He kept running off to different places to do things, what was he doing? I think we'll get some time dedicated to that, now that Tim's in charge.
4. A confrontation/unmasking of Hoody. This will be one big entry in itself, as well as one of the very last of the series.
5. Alex's attic. I still have a strong feeling that this is where it will all end. No place feels as perfect for the climax.
6. TO's dark realm visit will probably be a separate entry, even from the Rosswood tunnel return. Kind of like how they went there in #64 and then in #65 we actually see Tim in the realm, except this time it will be planned by Tim (and possibly Hoody).

Then as well as these, there'll be entries connecting them and entries dedicated to answers that I'm not considering essential (even if I really want to see the hospital's roof and Sarah's fate, they might not be shown) or answers we haven't/can't have considered (answers raised from future entries, for example).

[wassupbro]

Here is my theory. This same incidence occurred in season one if you think about it. Just in a more nonviolent way. Masky led Jay right to the Operator and then Jay began to lose himself. He would wake up in the middle of the night and teleport(dafuq google chrome doesn't know what the word Teleport is) with the doors to some place after that. Masky set that up.

Hoody set this up. Just in a very violent fashion.