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[TheOperator]

They could be tied to what looks like shock therapy in the latest TTA (might've been brought up before, not sure).

[Teedub]

I feel like the "shock therapy" clip in Quadrant is just symbolism for something else. What that is? I have no idea. I think it is safe to say that the clip is stock footage, as TTA has used that on many different occasions. (Signal, Session, Forecast, Attention, Messages, etc.)

[AbyssalRook]

Ok, I typed up a long, detailed synopsis of how I think everyone moved during 79 and 80, and then unfiction decided that it didn't want me to be logged in anymore and erased my entire post, so I'm gonna try typing it up again.

Someone let Alex out and gave him a gun, and I think it was Hoodie. The exacto-knife wasn't left there as a weapon for Jay to use to defend himself, it was left there by Hoodie, along with a pistol, for Alex to use to escape, as well as a note directing him to Benedict Hall, along with possibly a key. Alex cut himself free with the knife, then dropped it, and took the pistol and the key with him. I think Tim saw him leave the basement area, and tracked to the Hall, but found it locked from the inside. He tried to get a hold of a key, leaving his camera behind so as not to arouse suspicion, but failed, then went back to the basement area.

By that point, Hoodie had gone back there and replaced the note he left Alex with a note for Tim and/or Jay, and he may have moved the knife to make it more easily visible, and he also probably plastered those pictures on the wall at the same time. Hoodie was using the locked door at the top of the stairs to get down there, and locking it behind him every time he left, making Alex use the other exit. The last time he left, after placing the note for Tim and Jay, he left it unlocked and Tim used it to leave.

While Jay and Tim were in the basement, either Hoodie went and unlocked the door to Benedict Hall with his own key, or Alex unlocked it from inside. Tim thought that it was Alex who was following him, so when he heard the chair fall he sprinted for the top of the stairs, finding the door and another exit. Thinking Alex had left Benedict Hall, he then went to the hall to investigate, locking it behind himself so he wouldn't be followed, or he'd at least buy himself a few seconds in which he could set up an ambush.

After a while, he found that Alex wasn't coming after him, so he took his time to investigate. Eventually, I think there was a confrontation. I believe it was with Alex, and the Operator may or may not have been involved. Either way, Tim escaped and ran. Jay spotted him, but as he ran downstairs he missed Alex giving chase. Tim escaped, and as Jay was in Benedict Hall, Alex returned and the climax of Entry #80 happened. Alex broke into the room and picked up the camera. I bet he watched what was on it, then shut it off and left it where it was, possibly to preserve the battery life for Tim to find

A while later, Tim returns, either by his own volition to get another look, or after finding a note from Hoodie, or after possibly finding Jay's car. Or a combination of the last two (Hoodie left a note on Jay's car). He finds the camera, sees what happens, and then sees Hoodie and chases him out of Benedict Hall.

If I'm right about all of this, then there are a few things that this implies.

1) Hoodie has been driving a confrontation between Jay and Alex, and has been manipulating both of them to make sure it happens.

2) Alex, having watched the footage on Jay's camera, now knows for SURE that Hoodie has been doing just that, as he probably saw the footage of Jay's release, and he definitely saw Jay find the room that he'd been trapped in, with the note left to come and find him.

3) Hoodie obviously wanted to be seen. The only reason I can think of where Hoodie has overtly chosen to be seen is so that he could lead the one who found him somewhere, and in this case he led Tim out of Benedict Hall. It's possible that Alex left the camera there and conserved the battery life so that Tim would find it and be able to watch what was on it. He would see that Jay was taken, and begin frantically searching for him. Alex could have been hiding deeper in Benedict Hall, waiting to spring out and take Tim out as well, but Hoodie intervened and pulled Tim out, stopping that encounter from happening.

Now, all of this is just speculation, but I think the main thing that I want to stress is that I think that Hoodie released Alex, rather than Alex escaping on his own, to drive the confrontation between Alex and Jay. Hoodie could have even intervened when Tim and Alex met in Benedict Hall the first time.

[Omberto]

You know, there is one other option this all could be leading up to...

....I mean.... they could just cliffhanger the series here and say "Coming Soon: Marble Hornets, the Movie"

...we all know it's in the works...

[TheoryOfN]

[Teedub]

They won't cliffhanger the series. The movie isn't based around the characters of the web series, it simply takes place in the same universe. That has already been confirmed. The series will run its course with its own conclusion, separate from the movie.

[TheOperator]

Tim was being screwed around with by TO for who knows how long there, yet still made it to his car before Jay did, even though Jay ran straight out of the forest. Also, tunnel guy's corpse hadn't rotted.

[Armentitron]

[Teedub]

I never took his knowledge of the passwords in consideration of Hoody being Jay from the future. That is a very nice point in support of that theory. I'm not taking sides with any theories right now, but that is a great point for that one. If this theory is true, I hope that the TribeTwelve fanatics won't get angry or anything. I mean, the Hoody character has been in play longer than the Firebrand storyline from TribeTwelve. I'd be happy with it. However I've sort of thought that Hoody was Brian for a while now.

[Ascalondion]

[TheoryOfN]

[Omberto]

[Armentitron]

What I'm starting to think is happening here - let's assume that the dark shadowy place where the bearded man's body was:

Hoody needs Jay to go to the Ark realm that we saw the dead beardman in on Tim's chestcam some time ago. So he's been leading Jay (letting him out of Tim's house, the "Find Alex Find the Ark" note) to encounter Alex, who Hoody knew would try and kill Jay for whatever reason. Which he did. This must be what the note meant by "Find Alex, Find the Ark", because when Jay found Alex, he got shot and Jay will now find the Ark when TO takes/sends him there.

It seems that the Operator only whisks people away to the Ark who are dead or on the verge of dying (The Beardman when Alex mistook his head for a walnut, Jessica when Hoody and Masky dumped her from the hotel to the roadside, when Tim smacked Alex over the head with a metal stick). So this is why Hoody wanted Jay to find Alex. Hoody needed Jay to die by Alex's hand, because the Operator is always close to Alex and it would be easy for TO to find him after getting shot. Now that Jay appears to have been fatally shot, TO can swoop in and send him to wherever Beardman and Jessica are now.

Hoody's motivations for sending Jay to the Ark are still not as clear to me now.

[Ark is watching]

Well, to start with, I'm completely blown away by this entry, shit went down in a big way and I think we can all join together in mourning for Jay's departure.

Can I also say how happy I am to see the operator have some movement, especially the creepy movement he has here at raising his arm as if to point and lowering his head almost as if trying to understand (an extremely creepy thing to show on an unknowable entity).

Firstly though: When he lifts his arm and the big black void area opens up between it and the floor, does anyone think that might be TO's method of transporting people? Couple the large black area with Jay apparently being dragged towards TO (Shown by the split second shot of it's "face") and the large expanse of green that may be an area of Rosswood near the Ark/the ark itself.

The camera is explainable at having TO create a vacuum effect to drag Jay in but have control of what gets sucked in, resulting in the camera just passing through and ending up still in the room, or being comically spat back out as it closes.

Of course, this is all explanable away as the way the distortion made the picture look (the black expanse being a stretched image of the limb, the green being more distortion and so on) and that's it, but the way the limb looked made me almost think of a curtain or some form of doorway with 3 basic sides (floor, TO's body and TO's arm) and the 4th is made from the dimensions of the 3.

Hey, its possible if nothing else.

Also, to everybody arguing that Hoody is Jay cuz time travel, we've never really been given a display of conventional time travel with fundimental proof that its to the past.

To elaborate, lets look at time manipulation by TO. We have evidance that in the Ark (assuming thats what the ark is), time moves slowly (shown by Bruce's Corpse stubbornly refusing to decay) and its presumed that it's TO's doing rather than just having some weird place on earth where this happens naturally (see: Occam's razor). Temporal slowing, meaning he can control the speed of time.

As he can manipulate the speed to go slowly as hell, the displays of power where he turns day into night (ala: Entry #72) is probably more of the same and is in fact slowing time to a crawl inside the house and making it seem that Jay and Tim have been transported through time. While arguable it COULD be time travel to the previous night, Occam's razor says its the same day and a few hours have been forwarded through as no character has mentioned that "its the previous night" when it happened.

So basically, I can't remember a single instance where TO has undeniably transported anyone or anything backwards through time.

However, if there is something I missed, fell free to tell me.

[AbyssalRook]