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Armentitron
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Ascalondion wrote:
Armentitron wrote:
ArkyMcArkArk wrote:
Hoody is Jay from the future. Calling it now. Hoody has always been Jay, this entry made me even more sure.

We know the Operator and his effects can mess with time, I have no doubt it could push Jay from now to all the way back when we first saw Hoody, or even earlier to when the first TTA videos showed up. Everything Hoody has done has been to ensure his creation. And now Jay/Hoody knows Exactly what to do.


Seconded. After all, how could he know the passwords to Jay's YouTube and Twitter profiles?


Because either:
a) Jays passwords are weak.
b) TTA is a good hacker. (atleast he knows his decryption 101)
c) Jay has a masky persona too, which he have never seen, because it does not run around like it's companions Masky and Hoody, but stays at home and edits mind-fuck videos to post on youtube.
d) Something else.

(Just want to note that to propose a theory of who one character traveled through time after he was shot and played another character the whole series seems a bit far fatched to just explain how an account got hacked. This happens way more often than time travel. Wink )

/edit grammar smoothed


c) Seems the most likely. For all we know, Jay could be that Skull-mask person we saw that one time.

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TheoryOfN wrote:
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Tim was being screwed around with by TO for who knows how long there, yet still made it to his car before Jay did, even though Jay ran straight out of the forest. Also, tunnel guy's corpse hadn't rotted.


It was established that Jay didn't know the forest well. I assumed he got lost. I still see no evidence of time manipulation.


I think the "head-smashed corpse" is what a lot of people are basing the time manipulation theory on. Tim's trip into the "Slenderverse" revealed the body there had not decayed, meaning either the universe is a vacuum where everything is sterilized upon entry, or, time somehow acts differently on biology there which could have prevented the decay of the corpse.

If this second theory is true, it's possible Jay is still alive in the Slenderverse, but badly injured, and unable to die, which could in all reality be an even worse sentence than death.

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TheoryOfN wrote:
TheOperator wrote:
Tim was being screwed around with by TO for who knows how long there, yet still made it to his car before Jay did, even though Jay ran straight out of the forest. Also, tunnel guy's corpse hadn't rotted.


It was established that Jay didn't know the forest well. I assumed he got lost. I still see no evidence of time manipulation.


He can't have been that lost. Jay himself said he had no idea how Tim got to the car before him. He'd have no reason to be baffled if he had been lost for a while.

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LBfly wrote:
But it must have been orchestrated for a few entries already. Wouldnt Hoody let Jay know that it was a wrap?
Does Alex have Hoody then?


Since when has anyone in MH ever made any sort of coherent, direct message to someone?

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Ascalondion wrote:
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Judging by Tim's reaction to them in #65, something terrifying is beyond them.


Yup. Not forget that these doors are in the hospital that Tim was hospitalised in as a child.
+ The doors remind of the doors leading to an operating room
+ The page in Tims medical documents about his operation was heavily redacted and had the "operator symbol" on it.

Curious thing...although the way the events are unfolding looked like Tim broad the operator with him to Alex and Marble Hornet, we have the enttry showing TO 4 years prior to Tim hospitalization at Alex' birthday. However, we don't know anything about Alex having any Operator related issues before Marble Hornets.

/edited a double quote out.


Wait! So Quadrants was basically telling us that jay had been operated or will be operated and he can not help. The doors and shock therapy scenes.

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TheoryOfN wrote:
TheOperator wrote:
Tim was being screwed around with by TO for who knows how long there, yet still made it to his car before Jay did, even though Jay ran straight out of the forest. Also, tunnel guy's corpse hadn't rotted.


It was established that Jay didn't know the forest well. I assumed he got lost. I still see no evidence of time manipulation.


Tim went from day to night and back to day again in the slendyverse at least once (started in daylight, found Beardy at night, back to day again). While I'm sure that Jay probably got lost in the woods because it's happened before, I doubt he got lost for a full day.
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censura_umbra wrote:

Wait! So Quadrants was basically telling us that jay had been operated or will be operated and he can not help. The doors and shock therapy scenes.


I think that makes a lot of sense. It might even have been while it was happening.

I always thought that Quadrant's music had a note of somber finality to it, so I was ready for some bad shit to go down in this Entry. It kinda sounded like a funeral march.

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Rand0mExpl0sive wrote:
MisterSalt wrote:
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Actually, you live for a very long time with a bullet in your gut. He could get to a hospital and get patched up pretty easy.


I'm sure he'll be fine if he can find someone to operate on him soon.


I see what you did there...

On a more serious note, it seems like The Operator always takes people who have been wounded/killed. To actually operate on them in some way doesn't sound like too much of a stretch to me. (though I don't think Seth was really wounded or anything like that when he was "gone"... or Brian for that matter)


OH MY GOD, YOU GUYS MEGA BRAINWAVE!!!

Maybe that's why it's called the Operator! No, I'm being totally serious here! He's called the Operator because he OPERATES on people who are critically wounded! Think about it, Beardman ran headfirst several times into a rock that Alex was holding, TO came in, took him away to OPERATE on him. Jessica was dumped on the side of the road, not sure what Hoody and Masky did to her but it must have been serious because she was either unconscious or dead when they dropped her off. TO came in, took her away to OPERATE. When Tim smacked Alex over the head during the #60's, TO came in, took him away to OPERATE.

I know I'm repeating myself, but they've all got similar situations. Near death, TO come in and takes them away to OPERATE on them all.

EDIT: Oh, after reading a few more replies I discovered people have already come to this conclusion. Ah well, I was excited anyway.

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 		Two things I thought were important:

1)The entry which was a tape of the original Alex agreeing to give Jay the marble hornets tapes, entry 71, was different to how jay remembered it - in the tape, Alex attacks him whereas Jay doesn't remember that ever happening. -Because of the time travel and that two different timelines have been carried out, if you know what I mean? Or it could just be memory loss
2)Tim seemed to either come from the inside of Benedict Hall and unlocked it on the way out (he had gone in through another door), or came from the outside, unlocked the door, then started doing that weird stealth jog away. In this case he either went JUST to unlock the door, or he forgot something or was compelled to go back for some other reason

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AbyssalRook wrote:
TheoryOfN wrote:
TheOperator wrote:
Tim was being screwed around with by TO for who knows how long there, yet still made it to his car before Jay did, even though Jay ran straight out of the forest. Also, tunnel guy's corpse hadn't rotted.


It was established that Jay didn't know the forest well. I assumed he got lost. I still see no evidence of time manipulation.


You think it would have been easier for Tim, who could barely walk and was so disoriented he didn't know where he was, to have found the right path, staggered out of the forest, and sat down in his car for an undetermined amount of time before Jay found his way out?


Yes. I think it seems more likely than time manipulation.

AbyssalRook wrote:
Besides, we've seen other instances of TO messing with Time, namely in Entry #72, when they go down to the basement and it instantly becomes nighttime. I don't think it's too hard to think that time doesn't move the same way in what I'm now going to call "The Operating Room."


It doesn't take too long for the sun to set. Even shorter for there to be a noticeable light difference from inside.

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paulisdead18 wrote:
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Piqua72 wrote:
Has anyone else wondered how Tim was even in there to begin with? Jay has been supposedly watching the building this whole time? And who picked up the camera after Jay was taken? If it was Alex you think he would destroy the footage of him killing a guy. If hoody... what did he do to the camera before he left it for Tim to find?


I had asked about how Tim showed up at the end a few pages back. I'm pretty sure those are Alex's shoes we see near the end. I don't see why it's unusual that he wouldn't destroy the footage... I mean, he didn't get rid of the footage of killing Bruce, after all.

I'd say Tim went back inside because he heard a gunshot and just though "Oh god no." And ran back inside screaming for Jay. As to why he was in there in the first place? We don't know, but he had the chest cam...


That seems pretty plausible. Odds are TO has taken Jay away like it has the others and all that's left is Jays camera, which Tim found in a plain old empty room.

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 		Hey, can someone else confirm something for me?

Freeze frame at 2:29, when Jay is in the "dARKroom" (hey, I was, along with others, expecting a reveal of "The Ark" this entry, so I'll settle for this) looking around and turns, we briefly see a folding chair sitting there. That's blood on the backing piece, isn't it?

Oh yes, I do think Entry #81 is going to treat us to what happened in there via Tim's chest-cam

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TheOperator wrote:
Judging by Tim's reaction to them in #65, something terrifying is beyond them.


What doors are you talking about?

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Paige! wrote:
paulisdead18 wrote:

I'd say Tim went back inside because he heard a gunshot and just though "Oh god no." And ran back inside screaming for Jay. As to why he was in there in the first place? We don't know, but he had the chest cam...


Although that makes sense, it was a lot later when Tim found the camera (I'd guess by at least an hour our two, since it was nighttime by then). I highly doubt any wacky time travel took place like entry 72, since the Operator (presumably) left immediately after taking Jay and no significant amount of time seemed to pass between taking Jay and Alex finding the camera.


Actually, upon further pondering, considering the time difference between the Operator's appearance and Tim's collecting the camera, what I reckon happened is that when Tim left, he went back home, discovered Jay wasn't there, concluded that Jay had followed him to the basement, knew that Alex was down there (hence his fast-paced departure from the scene) and went back to the basement to check sh*t out. I guess the reason for such a significant time difference must be the distance from the basement to Tim's house.

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TheoryOfN wrote:


It doesn't take too long for the sun to set. Even shorter for there to be a noticeable light difference from inside.


At 8:00 we see the sun shining in from outside through a window

Around 8:44 Tim notices that it's pitch black out.

I don't think it's a stretch to say that some weird shit went down as they passed into that basement.

To say that there is absolutely no time distortion at all is ridiculous, and if you're trying to talk about believability here, let's remember that we're talking about a world in which a tall, extradimensional monster who can teleport and distort video camera recordings abducts people by magic.

Distorting time and space is not outside the realm of possibility for TO.

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