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[ReverendJ]

agreed

I blame the movie for messing up time.

[Ztakk]

A lot of you really need to learn the difference between time travel and time manipulation.

Time Travel- Being at one spot in the timeline and jumping to the next/previous point (forward/backward respectively) there is no in between one point in another. You're

Time Manipulation- Time "Moves around your". You are still experiencing a time change. He's not manipulating TIME, he's manipulating the SPEED of time. An example (not saying these numbers are exact) being he's manipulating it to 10x it's normal speed so 1 hour (60 minutes) feels like 1 minute to you. In the case of what we've seen the speed of time speed increase much much faster than this however in the case of hours passing in just a few seconds.

THIS is what makes that stupid Hoody is Future Jay theory bogus. When you say "we've seen people transported forward in time!" No, nobody has moved through time, time was simply sped up for a second.

[Noobody]

On Alex:

[Oransel]

[Neroslol]

Given that information, I see it as Alex becoming the ultimate thrall for TO. The way I interpret the shadow that looks like TO is that he currently might be possessed, or his actions arent of his own volition at that time. Similar to being hypnotized(similar to the devil's breath/scopolomine drug which leaves you in a state where you will follow ANY order given to you), you don't twitch, move etc. you just sit there ready to respond to an external stimuli. So yeah I'd say it's more of a possession than anything else.

[onetruepurple]

Where's everybody getting the idea that Big Op is manipulating time?

My dog poops on the grass frequently, but I don't call it "manipulating the ecosystem".

[Lytrigian]

[Marble Hornets]

Again, Alex screaming "where are Jay and Tim" to Hoody in his little building home implies hoody is not Jay. No need to go any further with it.

[ToTheFading]

For once I actually agree with Marble Hornets. I don't think Jay's face is warped beyond recognition. That's kind of clutching at straws to defend the theory against something that would otherwise debunk it. Other people who've been messed up by the Operator, (Tim, and arguably Alex) still look like themselves, so there's no reason to assume Jay doesn't look like Jay, imo. We'll wait and see, though.

[Ristar]

How come people still say that Hoodie is future Jay? I think you are forgetting the last 79 entries:

-Hoody sugested Jay many times to kill Alex and to start using knives instead of flashlights because he wanted him dead, just because Tim says ''You set this up!'' Doesn't mean that Hoody wanted Jay dead. He clearly told him to find Alex and find the Ark in Benedict Hall. Wasn't that what Jay just did?

-Seth, Sarah, Jessica and Bruce were killed by Alex and taken away by TO but we don't see any masky personas out of them (Brian and Tim were assaulted by Alex but never killed in camera, besides Tim already was Masky before Alex did anything to him)

[Smoking_Gnu]

Regarding Alex's mechanical demeanor and lack of speaking, could that also simply be because he didn't want to give Jay a chance to escape? He already missed the chance to off Jay and Jessica once before because his Villainous Monologue gave Masky a chance to blindside him, and he likely knew that Hoody was already on the grounds as well.

Doesn't discredit the "becoming the Operator" theory at all, just a thought regarding that particular scene.

[Aeliott]

Mm, the time travel thing is a possibility (well, it's in the nature of the subject ), but while there are some things it could help explain, I don't think we should get too invested in the idea just yet, especially 20+ pages worth. If Jay's face ends up being disfigured soon - assuming he's still alive - then sure, that flags up suspicions on why that would have to happen. Hoody's an adept stalker, and assuming he is - or is at least connected to - totheark, he's obviously well-versed in codes and such and a hack on Jay's twitter is probably a piece of cake, no matter how many times he changes his password. An assumption, just like him being a time traveller, but a more logical given what we've seen from 80 entries + however many TTAs.

We're getting plot development, but the mysteries never seem to de-mystify even a little. The motives of absolutely everyone are uncertain, especially with Hoody and his many machinations. Maybe we're just getting a bit tired of that and the "it's probably Brian" notion?

[geekgirlinthefedora]

[wassupbro]

[FalloutGhoul]

If I may ask, does anybody have a screenshot of Tim seeing Hoody peeking around the corner?