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[gennerx]

Hoody is Dr Who and TO is part of The Silence............makes as much sense as anything else in this thread.

[thisistheend]

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[Sha Noran]

I understand what you're saying DHawk, I just don't think there are such strict "rules" about time travel (which isn't real anyway, lol). I figure the only things that can't happen are Alex dying without killing Jay first, and Jay dying to anyone but Alex - and TO prevents these scenarios from occurring. It isn't necessarily a theory I follow even myself, but much like I once fleshed out a theory explaining how Amy could be Hoody I thought I would just explain the future Jay as Hoody idea in some more detail than I'd seen from others because according to writer's logic it is at least POSSIBLE.

If this is the case, all parties involved are doomed. The original timeline has been fucked up so hard by future Jay as Hoody that basically the only way TO can prevent paradoxes is making Tim, Hoody and Alex disappear. None of those three are just gonna stop at this point, ya know? So they're gonna follow through on a rock-paper-scissors vendetta between the three of them and TO is gonna clean up the mess. No one escapes. Time lord victory.

[DHawk314]

The problem with the theory isn't that it doesn't follow "Time travel rules" it's that, just from the perspective of it as a regular story, it lacks continuity. Like, how do you explain that the Operator was "Always there" in the timeline because of Future Jay's interference, who was also "Always there" as part of a stable time loop, but later on Future Jay takes action which weren't always part of the timeline, without even time traveling a second time?

It's not that Hoody time travels twice and the rules are inconsistent between the two times. He time travels once, and then does something which effects time in one way, and then does some other thing later that effects it in another way. It has nothing to do with the "Time travel rules" it just plainly wouldn't make sense as a continuous story.

Like, if Hoody went through time once to fulfill the time loop, and then time traveled a second time to change 52, it still wouldn't really make any sense, but it'd be like physically feasible. It'd still have the whole, who ontologically IS Hoody problem, which once again is NOT a "Time travel rule" thing it just really doesn't make any physical sense. But even forgetting that, the rest of what you're suggesting isn't even time travel problems, it's just nonsense story problems.

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[JAL13]

[Ascalondion]

[Minato]

What if Hoody is Jay from the past that somehow found a way to travel to the future, saw what happened with him in the future (being shot by Alex and taken by the Operator), got back to the past sometime near his own time and started stalking himself and the MH cast so he could understand what would happen to him in the future.

Makes sense, right? No? Well, just like this theory.

[JAL13]

[pestoner]

not reading 4 pages,future jay is hoody..total bullshit.
who came up with this weird theory anyway?
hes's not jay from the past either,jay is jay and present,and so is hoody.
and theres no TIME travel, its just Location travel,theres no proof that time changes when people get transported,except maybe for the one time where it turns dark in that basement..anyway this theory is leading nowhere.

[rand__althor]

[paladin181]

I can't really believe this "theory" is getting this much attention over all. I mean, "Jay is actually the Operator" makes more sense than this silliness.

[Sha Noran]

No offense to anyone, but this theory is being too easily dismissed. It may not fit the MH themes and vibe, but it is hardly absurd. Realistically it walks the tightrope between "absurd" and "legit". I have seen many theories that are much more farfetched, but there are also many theories that are quite a bit more likely.

[device]

Personally, I agree with Sha Noran. I think one of the characters coming back again and again would go a LONG way to explain a lot of the inconsistencies I've seen in the series. (I don't necessarily agree with his exact theory, but I think the time travel aspect is a distinct possibility).

I like especially like the idea that some of the tapes we see might actually have scenes from past failed attempts (like when Jay sees the video of Alex attacking him after giving him the tapes). Jay didn't say he didn't remember that happening, he said he remembered it happening differently.
Maybe Hoody keeps the tapes to help him keep track of past attempts, who knows?

Anyway, I like to think it's all hinted at in this video.
I'm sure almost everyone's seen it. I think it would be hilarious if it had the clues to the whole series was in it the whole time.



(my aplogies if we are not supposed to post this here).
Alex talks about time travel, Brian talks about being stuck in a loop (and also wears a hoody), etc.