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[Dacad]

While I regret helping lead to this conversation, Alex can act normal when he needs to. He was able to get Jessica to trust him instantly, so I wouldn't put it past him. Plus, he has an apartment where he was living during Season 2, and could very well still have one.

Also, he could have just stolen a gun from someone.

[DHawk314]

Can I just say, first of all yes Alex could totally just walk into a store and buy a gun, that would be really easy in America, there's like little to no regulation, even after school shootings. And yeah, it would be especially easy is he had no respect for the law, and since he's a murderer that's obviously true. And of course, it's also possible that Alex already had two guns before Entry #52.

I'd like to reference Entry #75. Tim mentions that at least Alex doesn't have that gun anymore after Hoody was seen still having it in entry #73. Jay literally says "He could have gotten another one." So there's precedent for that being possible in the plot.

My issue doesn't have anything to do with that. My issue is Hoody captures Alex post entry #73, as is evident from Tim's living room in Entry #75, as well as Alex being missing, and the note left in his place. It is also made obvious from the pictures of Alex tied up in Entry #79. So even if Alex had another gun post-Entry #67, if Hoody did in fact have him detained, then why did he not take it away from him?

The reality is that Alex was contained by Hoody, and then he was in Benedict Hall, no longer contained, and with a gun. It's possible Alex broke out and took his gun back from Hoody, but the issue is, then Hoody knew that Alex was there with a gun, and he still lead Jay there. There is no real way Hoody could have thought this would come out well for Jay, but he set it up anyway, whether it was his plan from when he captured Alex in the first place or not.

Or maybe there's some other explanation and we're just missing pieces. I mean, we're certainly missing pieces. But it still seems like Hoody's intentions with leading Jay here were not with Jay's best interests in heart. At least, that's my opinion.

[twistedpuppet]

There's a seven day waiting period before you are allowed to purchase a handgun. Last time I checked, you could really only buy rifles and shotguns from walmart and you had to pay a fee for expedited background check. Then, the manager is the only one that can handle the gun in the store and has to walk you to your car before you even get to touch it.

[Sha Noran]

[twistedpuppet]

I presume that hoody dropped it when TO showed up the first time we saw him have Alex tied up. He doesn't appear to have had it after that.

[Ark is watching]

As I said with my comment, no offense was intended.

It's just from what I've heard guns can just be brought, and hell, its pretty easy so long as you have no felonies and a permanent address. Admittedly its hearsay, bu there's no smoke without fire. In addition I've seen plenty of news reports on the gun laws in the US as well as doing some research, and so long as you have a clean background (no previous felonies, a permanent address etc) there's no real problems.

I personally like the idea that Hoody dropped the gun and ran from TO in entry 67, it'd make sense, shooting The Operator probably wouldn't work how they want it to.

However, as I have to concede, if Alex had been taken captive, surely Hoody would take the gun off Alex? Why Alex has it could be a one of several reasons.

One: Alex beat hoody up and stole the gun, but that leaves the hole of "why wouldn't Alex just kill Hoody?"

Two: Hoody gave the gun to Alex after he was released/got free. If so, why would he unless he was leading Jay to either the ark or an execution.

Three: While Hoody was wondering about, Alex got himself free and found where Hoody had stashed the gun. This might make Hoody a good character again because theres a chance he genuinely didn't know that Alex was roaming about with a gun. Thats a pretty anti-climactic theory, but its possible.

[geekgirlinthefedora]

[twistedpuppet]

[Master of Octopi]

As said previously, there's a waiting period for handguns, and a mandatory background check, except when said handgun is purchased at a gun show, unless that gun show takes place in one of a few states. Even if purchased online, it would either come in parts which need to be assembled (which I think is outside of Alex's skillset) or shipped to a federally licensed firearm dealer, who will then perform the requisite background checks if they haven't been done already. Again, as stated previously, you can get a rifle or shotgun with relative ease, but handguns are much more heavily regulated.

I don't think Alex would've passed a background check. He'd be heavily flagged by anyone who would bother to Google "Alex Kralie." The Marble Hornets YouTube channel would pop up, and they'd see him commit at least one murder and attempt to kill... how many are we up to now? Four people at least? (Jessica, Jay, Hoody, Tim- has he shot at anyone else, or menaced anyone else with a gun?)

Anyway, the only way that Alex would be able to get his hands on another gun would be to either go to an unscrupulous gun show dealer, steal one, or purchase one from a black market dealer. (Of course, this assumes that he hasn't assumed a new identity, but that isn't supported enough by anything I've seen in the entries, though I'm happy to be proven wrong).

Getting a new handgun aside, why didn't Jay just call the freaking police? "Hey, Five-Oh, I have footage of this guy Alex bashing someone's head in with a rock, moving bodies, and shooting at a young girl, a mentally unbalanced man, and me. He's running around loose on a college campus, and might be armed. I'd appreciate it if you could go, you know, get him."

Yeah, Alex could be saved by the Operator, but he'd be driven further into hiding. A guy like that could spark a national manhunt. And if he is taken into custody, he can be interrogated by some professionals. Just tell the police that the "Ark" is a stash of heroin that Alex has hidden, and let them do the heavy lifting in finding it.

Playing detective will only get you so far; even Sherlock Holmes called in Lestrade when it was time to arrest someone. It's frustrating as heck, and I can't even remember a token line about him or anyone else calling the cops and having them be useless. And just look at where this detective act got him: likely broke, definitely unemployed, homeless, friendless, shot and teleported to God knows where.

Was there any mention of them attempting to contact the police in previous entries? I can't remember any, and I'd rather not go through all eighty something to track down a particular line. (Though now I kind of want to re-watch in preparation for the finale). Happy to be proven wrong though, as I said before.

[DHawk314]

Neither Jay nor Tim, or even Alex before going crazy, ever call the police. It's never explained why.

Ignoring the fact that a white guy in Alabama could totally get a gun at short notice easily, I'd like to further bring up that prior to Entry #52 Alex could have already had two guns. So this whole debate is thinking about this wayyyyyy tooooo muuuuch.

I just don't get why Hoody wouldn't take any weapon Alex had if he had him tied up. Either way it seems to me Hoody must have given it back to him or Alex must have taken it back from him and the same barrel of questions opens up regardless.

[Dacad]

Well, uh, I can see this conversation going places I don't like, so I'll just focus on something else, like the police.

The only evidence Jay has against Alex is some very blurry videos which could end up being dismissed as fake. Maybe enough for an arrest, but not enough to convict. After Entry 49 was posted, Jay said he searched for information on the guy killed in the tunnel and couldn't find it. TV Tropes speculated that the Operator might have wiped all traces of him from people's memories. And the tunnel itself was cleaned by the time Jay showed up there in Entry 50. Jay would essentially be asking the police to arrest Alex for killing a man who quite possibly, in the minds of everyone who hasn't seen the video, never existed, based on a fuzzy video presented by someone who is clearly unbalanced.

And what if the police do decide to investigate? Either they won't find anything to implicate Alex, or they will, but they will mysteriously forget about it. Or disappear. But what if the police are really competent? Then in that case, they will want to lock up Tim and Jay as well. Both of them are a danger to themselves and others. For crying out loud, Tim dressed like Michael Myers for the first and second seasons! And right when they are locked up is when they'll get a visitor.....

[Sha Noran]

Maybe that's the idea of Quadrant - Hoody lamenting that he fucked up and is now a liar because he assured Jay that Alex was captured, but he escaped and retrieved his gun. "I can not help" - I blew it trying to help, I suck. "Am I the third?" Liar, now that he drew Jay into a shitty situation with manipulation.

Also, the cops would never believe Tim due to his medical history. Due to extensive footage of Jay and Tim "on the run" and playing detective in the woods means they wouldn't believe Jay either by association. The footage is all worthless - no cop is gonna believe some insane people are encountering a monster when its much more likely the footage is fake. Police aren't gonna risk their career on something like that - Tim and Jay would be locked up and Alex would flee the state and never be caught, especially since he doesn't have a fetish for filming himself anymore, and when he did he has an alibi - he was filming a student film.

[DHawk314]

Look, frankly Jay should have called the police the second he found footage of Alex being followed by someone. Sure the police might think it's fake but if Jay can't find Alex online or anything they'd at least look for him to see if it's fake or not. The whole "Oh yeah right kids a monster" thing is just in the movies; the police don't work that way.

Jay DEFINITELY should have called the police when he was attacked by a masked man. Honestly the idea that Jay and Tim are "Too cray cray" for the police to believe in unrealistic. I have no problem suspending disbelief in Marble Hornets, I don't care that Jay doesn't call the police. But don't try to rationalize it.

[JustJim]

This was an easy joke to make, but I'm glad somebody did.

http://youtu.be/0-3Ptjzk0TU

[Dacad]