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Hoody = Future Jay theory debate
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DHawk314
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No Alex was busy encountering the Operator in Entry #13. There's a cut in 13 and at the time people thought maybe that was Exit, but it seems more like Jay put the cut in as he does in the more modern videos than that Alex cut it out; like, if Alex filmed Exit, Jay would likely know since he has the tape.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:37 am
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Dacad
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Serum, I wasn't aware you were an early supporter of the theory, and I don't like the theory now. So why, oh why did you place that image in my mind? Why post it where innocent people could read it? I might need therapy now.

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Osttle
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I dont really know, has Masky existed long before Alex Kralie's MH? I do agree that at one point in time Masky was TTA. Mainly because Warnings. Which seems out of TTA's style. Because paper and shit, and none cryptic messages

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DHawk314
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Unknown. Masky is definitely some sort of result of Tim's mental illness as a child, which seems to have been caused by the Operator. This was suppressed by his medication but seems to come out when the slender sickness gets bad.

Mind you, in Entry #59 Tim mentions that "so much of the past few years makes so much sense now", meaning he may have just been Masky since Entry #18. He also seems convinced that Alex and the Operator caused the Masky state, meaning he may not have been blacking out his whole life, but he also might be lying, as seems to be implied in Entry #66.

So maybe he became Masky due to his experiences as a child, maybe Masky is related to his childhood experiences but was catalyzed into full existence by Alex leading him to the Operator in 56 (He did run to the hospital in that 57 despite really not wanting to go earlier, as Jay points out, but it doesn't seem like a full Maskys take or even his state in Entry #65,) or maybe Hoody beginning to steal his meds caused him to start not having enough to suppress it. If it's the first thing then it's highly possible Tim filmed Exit, especially since he had that behind the scenes camera Alex gave him. This may mean Tim was totheark at first, or just that Masky gave Hoody the tape with it on it (They definitely work together regardless of who totheark is).

It's also possible Tim was in the woods that day but was in his right mind, like for instance maybe the Operator just teleported him there while he had the camera, like in the middle of the night or something. Tim sees Jay, is confused by him being there, films him a little, and runs away.

Or of course alternatively Brian and/or Seth was involved with the Operator before 51 and 22 respectively (Seth is more plausible in this case, they seem to be investigating in 22, also he would have a camera) and one of them filmed it. In this case one of them may also be Hoody and/or one of the totheark users. There may also be a party involved that we don't know about.
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Serum wrote:
Sha Noran wrote:
Serum wrote:
I love how I started the "Hoody is future Jay" theory and when I did people threw it out, laughed at me, spit on me, dumped the contents of their septic tanks on my hot, sweaty, ready naked body and now all of you are buying into it like it's Bible-truth without so much as crediting me.


Despite the fact that I think you're trolling, I'll respond. I actually originally considered that Hoody was future Jay before I ever joined the forum, lurked the forum, or heard of you. At the time there was little to no evidence other than it seeming to make sense in a lot of ways. I'm only now strongly reconsidering it as legitimate due to the most recent Entry and the discussion arising from it, after having abandoned it due to harsh negativity towards that theory here when I first joined. It makes even more sense now than it did a year ago, and that alone is saying something.


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AGAIN....PLEASE someone explain how the most recent entry remotely adds ANY evidence to this theory in any form at all?

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wassupbro
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DHawk314 wrote:
No Alex was busy encountering the Operator in Entry #13. There's a cut in 13 and at the time people thought maybe that was Exit, but it seems more like Jay put the cut in as he does in the more modern videos than that Alex cut it out; like, if Alex filmed Exit, Jay would likely know since he has the tape.


That still could have been Tim who HAD that footage though, even though he didnt record it.

On another note: they should film an entry where Jay or Tim unmasks Hoody and sees Skully, then Skully runs away flailing his arms in a trollish manner, knowing just how pissed off evryone got

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DHawk314
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wassupbro wrote:
DHawk314 wrote:
No Alex was busy encountering the Operator in Entry #13. There's a cut in 13 and at the time people thought maybe that was Exit, but it seems more like Jay put the cut in as he does in the more modern videos than that Alex cut it out; like, if Alex filmed Exit, Jay would likely know since he has the tape.


That still could have been Tim who HAD that footage though, even though he didnt record it.

On another note: they should film an entry where Jay or Tim unmasks Hoody and sees Skully, then Skully runs away flailing his arms in a trollish manner, knowing just how pissed off evryone got


But Alex could not have recorded it. He was busy encountering the Operator. So there was a third party there, totheark or otherwise.
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DHawk314 wrote:
wassupbro wrote:
DHawk314 wrote:
No Alex was busy encountering the Operator in Entry #13. There's a cut in 13 and at the time people thought maybe that was Exit, but it seems more like Jay put the cut in as he does in the more modern videos than that Alex cut it out; like, if Alex filmed Exit, Jay would likely know since he has the tape.


That still could have been Tim who HAD that footage though, even though he didnt record it.

On another note: they should film an entry where Jay or Tim unmasks Hoody and sees Skully, then Skully runs away flailing his arms in a trollish manner, knowing just how pissed off evryone got


But Alex could not have recorded it. He was busy encountering the Operator. So there was a third party there, totheark or otherwise.


Future Jay stalking himself? He would have remembered the Entry and that he was sent back to the car for the battery. So he waits to catch a glimpse of himself, not wanting to risk encountering Alex because he also remembers that Alex encounters TO at about the same time - also we never see what happens when past Jay catches back up with Alex or what even happened to Alex after that encounter, so future Jay may be trying to find out what happened or how they escaped. Also, TO might have shown up specifically because future Jay was there and was dangerously close to paradox territory.

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DHawk314 wrote:
wassupbro wrote:
DHawk314 wrote:
No Alex was busy encountering the Operator in Entry #13. There's a cut in 13 and at the time people thought maybe that was Exit, but it seems more like Jay put the cut in as he does in the more modern videos than that Alex cut it out; like, if Alex filmed Exit, Jay would likely know since he has the tape.


That still could have been Tim who HAD that footage though, even though he didnt record it.

On another note: they should film an entry where Jay or Tim unmasks Hoody and sees Skully, then Skully runs away flailing his arms in a trollish manner, knowing just how pissed off evryone got


But Alex could not have recorded it. He was busy encountering the Operator. So there was a third party there, totheark or otherwise.


You don't know that. Alex could have run back and recorded Jay.

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DHawk314
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I think you're missing the point though like there's no real cut for Alex to have done that. Unless he did it after Entry #13 was over. I dunno the context just makes it seem unlikely. Alex sends Jay to do something else to distract him so he can stalk him without him knowing? I dunno the video just implies there was some other party filming Jay while Alex was doing his own thing.
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sp103
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You know what? I'm sold on this idea.

Especially seeing what happened with Jay in the last episode. Tim tried to prevent this from happening, but couldn't or it was inevitable.

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Osttle wrote:
Who ever is TTA has existed since Alex's MH.
Just look at Exit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn42IHeear4

This sorta disproves Hoody=TTA. Well at-least in the beginning


How exactly? He could've easily been there since the beginning and just never made himself known.

I always took the entry where Jay finds the doll Hoody left for him in the tunnels as callback to entry 16/18. Him pretty much saying he's been there since way back then.

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Osttle
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What? Entry 16/18 takes place long after Alex's MH ended. How does exit have anything to do with that. Besides, I always assumed Masky put that doll there.

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McGregor
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Right. Damn timeline has me all fucked up

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McGregor wrote:
Right. Damn timeline has me all fucked up


I don't even know how anyone is understanding what time the entries take place because none of them are dated and Jay can't even remember half of the things that have happened in them. So if Jay can't even remember half of the things that happened I can't say we can give an accurate example of a timeline.

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