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TRIBETWELVE: SEASON TWO
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Uturuncu
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 		I honestly think the guy in the bathroom looked like it might have been Lee, from Whispered Faith, which is also in New Jersey.

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He's also missing-presumed-dead right now after an attack by the Rake, who HABIT is buddy-buddy with


That said, my roommate figured the note regarding the diner might actually be referring to the guy in the bathroom, and he's just some random guy HABIT decided to find, abduct, screw with, and murder. Since HABIT is rather chaos incarnate, that seems pretty apt.

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SignerJ
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 		Somewhat decent evidence that the guy behind Door #2 is not Lee:

Here is a picture of Lee:
http://i.imgur.com/aUtpz9p.png

As you can see, his hair is very dark black.

Here is a picture of the guy in the bathroom:
http://i.imgur.com/jiu9R75.png

His hair is not nearly as dark. In fact, he might even be a blond.

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Sorry to break it to you all, but Lee's dead. Even Mo thinks that Lee is dead. Lee was shredded to bits by the Rake.
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FalloutGhoul
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SignerJ wrote:
5) It seems that what Habit was trying to tell Noah is that the symbol is used to cut off a controller from the controlled. In other words, it can be used to cut off the puppet master (the Administrator) from a puppet (Firebrand, etc.). That is a very important revelation.

I have a theory!
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Someone will use that symbol to sever HABIT from Evan, and then Noah will use that symbol to sever The Collective members from their human hosts.

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Uturuncu
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FalloutGhoul wrote:

I have a theory!
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Someone will use that symbol to sever HABIT from Evan, and then Noah will use that symbol to sever The Collective members from their human hosts.


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I think Noah was actually thinking about this. The camera went to the knife while HABIT was explaining the whole thing to him, and I got the impression that his thought process was that he could use the knife+symbol on HABIT right then to get Evan back. Mind, Noah's not exactly prone to fits of heroism and he doesn't know the extent of HABIT's powers, so it would have been a very inadvisable move.


@SignerJ

Thanks much for the comparison. I would say the haircolor isn't quite as much to go on, considering the considerable difference in lighting there. Lee's hair's dark, the guy in the bathroom is under heavy light.

However I see more of an arrow put in the theory by the fact that the man in the bathroom is straight haired, while Lee's is kind of kinky.

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And yes, but we're supposed to think Lee's dead. I've been quite conditioned by these series to quite believe that no body=not dead. Hell, in some cases people have managed to come back from death. Mark my words, he'll be back. It may not be soon, and he may not exactly be Lee anymore, but he will be back.


All of that speculation and analyzing aside, and back to TT. It does, in fact, look like it could be Noah. I think it may be Firebrand right after being freed by the Collective. and the blood on his side is where Evan stabbed him with the symbol-enchanted knife. Some have theorized it was Noah, so I agree.

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And if so, clever bit of editting to specifically show Noah in the mirror while he stumbles around in the bathroom with his back to the camera.


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 		Someone made a Tumblr post with a thorough inspection of HABIT's board:
http://hazardwithin.tumblr.com/post/71189095972/full-and-clear-picture-of-habits-whiteboard

Following on her idea that the wordbank means something, here are its contents:
GWS6BR
BHMOZV
DKLHLO
35A=QU (the equals sign might be a Z)

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 		I think the word she couldn't figure out is "Realm of the Righteous."
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 		Theory
Concerning Habit's motives
Hey, so, I noticed at the beginning of the video Habit mentions that Slenderman can't get at them in his house. He says the same thing about the Nazi journal, saying it'll protect Noah from Slenderman. So here's my idea: What if Habit wants Noah to get the journal because Habit already has it?

Let me expand on what I mean. Firebrand, at least this is what I took from the video, stabbed Slenderman, allowing him to control his own will. This is why he mentioned Habit helped him get free - Habit just told him how to do it. Firebrand then traveled through time and commissioned Habit to help Noah with this in the first place. Why would Habit do this for Noah?

It's unlikely it's just a big fuck you to Slenderman. Yes, Habit has expressed a less than friendly relationship with the Administrator, but they're not enemies. In the context of Everyman HYBRID, they're not antagonists fighting each other. They're more like business partners who hate each other.

It seems as if Habit helps Slenderman out with some of his stuff and then Habit also gets something out of this in return. Most of the animosity between them is based on the idea that Habit is very big on Slenderman not being the boss of him. And then Slenderman is just sort of like "Ya sure whatever dude I'm a fuckin time God I literally couldn't give a shit if I tried." Only he says it fancier.

So back on track a bit, I believe Firebrand freed himself through a stable time loop; he freed himself and gave Habit the journal so that Habit would give his past self info that would help him free himself in the first place. Habit asks if Noah has the journal yet because, not being a time traveler, he's probably a bit wary about relying on an effect when the cause hasn't happened yet.

But Habit knows Noah will get the journal since he already has it, which I believe is how his house is all untouchable, so I doubt Habit is too worried. At least, I doubt it's a coincidence that Habit just happens to bring that up about his house, and then asks Noah about a journal that does the same thing. Mind you there is some precedent for places being safe from Slenderman in EverymanHYBRID, such as Corenthal's weird sanctuary thingy, which was the first connection I made. But I'm thinking now it's more connected to the journal.

So to sum up: Firebrand gave Habit the journal to make him immune to Slenderman if he wants to be, which I can imagine Habit would have all sorts of uses for, and in return Habit gave Firebrand's past self information that helped complete the time loop of Firebrand escaping the Collective in the first place. Or at least that's my theory as of now.
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 		Re: Theory
Concerning Habit's motives
DHawk314 wrote:
Hey, so, I noticed at the beginning of the video Habit mentions that Slenderman can't get at them in his house. He says the same thing about the Nazi journal, saying it'll protect Noah from Slenderman. So here's my idea: What if Habit wants Noah to get the journal because Habit already has it?

Let me expand on what I mean. Firebrand, at least this is what I took from the video, stabbed Slenderman, allowing him to control his own will. This is why he mentioned Habit helped him get free - Habit just told him how to do it. Firebrand then traveled through time and commissioned Habit to help Noah with this in the first place. Why would Habit do this for Noah?

It's unlikely it's just a big fuck you to Slenderman. Yes, Habit has expressed a less than friendly relationship with the Administrator, but they're not enemies. In the context of Everyman HYBRID, they're not antagonists fighting each other. They're more like business partners who hate each other.

It seems as if Habit helps Slenderman out with some of his stuff and then Habit also gets something out of this. Most of the animosity between them is based on the idea that Habit is very big on Slenderman not being the boss of him. And then Slenderman is just sort of like "Ya sure whatever dude I'm a fuckin time God I literally couldn't give a shit if I tried." Only he says it fancier.

So back on track a bit, I believe Firebrand freed himself through a stable time loop; he freed himself and gave Habit the journal so that Habit would give his past self info that would help him free himself in the first place. Habit asks if Noah has the journal yet because, not being a time traveler, he's probably a bit wary about relying on an effect when the cause hasn't happened yet.

But Habit knows Noah will get the journal since he already has it, which I believe is how his house is all untouchable, so I doubt Habit is too worried. At least, I doubt it's a coincidence that Habit just happens to bring that up about his house, and then asks Noah about a journal that does the same thing. Mind you there is some precedent for places being safe from Slenderman in EverymanHYBRID, such as Corenthal's weird sanctuary thingy, which was the first connection I made. But I'm thinking now it's more connected to the journal.

So to sum up: Firebrand gave Habit the journal to make him immune to Slenderman if he wants to be, which I can imagine Habit would have all sorts of uses for, and in return Habit gave Firebrand's past self information that helped complete the time loop of Firebrand escaping the Collective in the first place. Or at least that's my theory as of now.

Sounds like a lot of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey, bad-writing BS.
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 		Why's it bad writing? That hardly seems fair. I think it's fine.
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DHawk314 wrote:
Why's it bad writing? That hardly seems fair. I think it's fine.


While your theory would make sense if that were the case, HABIT/Evan was shown to be stabbing proxies left and right as they just shamble towards his "house" that he acquired (he most likely killed the residents and secured the area through his own means). So while it would make sense that HABIT is only safe because of the time loop, why was he safe BEFORE he began interacting with Noah/Firebrand and he was able to douse Jeffs body in lighter fluid in plain sight of Slendy in the forest then just calmly walk back to his domain. It doesn't make much sense OOG or IG to be honest.

Not sure if I got my point across perfectly but I think you get the basic idea.

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 		When do we see proxies getting stabbed? I do not remember this.

As for the Slendy thing, I'm not sure what kind of point you're trying to make. Slendy didn't kill Habit in the woods for the reasons I said earlier; they're partners. And it also probably has to do with what Habit explained to Vince about people on the inside/outside. Slendy wasn't just gonna kill Evan there for the same reason he doesn't kill Vince. Anyway I kinda saw that as Slendy just taking Vince's body; an example of them sort of working together.

Unless you're trying to make some other point I'm not grasping. And anyway, Firebrand is a time traveler. He's existed at the very least since he appeared to Noah in that weird ass hotel room on Halloween. Didn't he like, carry Noah out of a fire when he was a child? Who are we to say Habit hasn't had the journal forever? Whose to say that hasn't always been why he's been immune, and Habit's just returning the favor now?

As for OOG, it's entirely plausible the group of them went "Okay the journal is for Slendy immunity, Habit has that, maybe he got is from Firebrand" and then wrote the plot from there. I dunno, I usually chalked most of Slenderman not murdering the shit out of Habit up to Slenderman not wanting to, not Slenderman not being able to, especially since it would just kill Evan anyway and Habit would go sauntering off. I only really see proof that Slenderman can't get to Habit in this video.

But even if he always has been Slendy immune during EverymanHYBRID, I don't see how that disproves the theory even a bit, and I certainly don't see how it's bad writing.
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 		probably noah in the bathroom



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 		The bracelet is on his right hand when drawing and then the bathroom mystery man has the bracelet on his left hand. Of course he could move it to the other hand but the hair look very different from Noah's and even the bracelet looks different.

Just to clarify I mean hair as in the hair on his head and not his arm hair. It sounded like I could've meant arm hair once I reread my post.

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 		And if you notice, its actually two bracelets, and much more thicker.

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 		man if it is know then man ye know I think we are all cool with dat. buuuuuut here's to wishing it's a crossover! like crossing over with another series that hasn't been crossed over with that no one knows about!

Speaking of which where the fack is vinnie? Part 2?

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