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[aidansean]

Could it be that Jacob is actually Hoody? Maybe this is why Hoody keeps his identity secret, not from Jay, Tim or Alex, but from the entire internet and his employers.

[The Happy Madman]

That wouldn't make sense unless Jacob is Brian's or Seth's alias.

[Cioger]

Wait... So when Jay got shot Tim gasped? Does this mean they're connected more than we think?

[MDHDZN]

[DHawk314]

I honestly think it doesn't matter if you absolutely needed the entry or not to understand things, the entry increased my understanding regardless. Knowing how Tim knew to go to Benedict Hall, how he got in without Jay seeing, why he was running, what Benedict Hall is (The film department Alex did stuff at, which is important because it signals to me Alex went to that part of the campus on his own and wasn't taken there by Hoody), and why he went back into Benedict Hall at night (People assumed it was because he went home and watched 78/79, they were wrong it's because he blacked out) are all things we didn't know earlier.

People guessed why, some of the guesses were right, some of the guesses were wrong, it really doesn't matter. The entry confirmed and solidified things, the part in the sewer was scary, the part where Tim blacked out was scary. The series, as a whole, when it will be binge watched by future viewers, will be better with this entry, whether it was "necessary" or not.

People are upset because the wait was long, and that's it. Well people are upset every time the wait is long. And the wait was long because it was freaking Christmas. I'd rather have a good, cohesive series overall than one that has fast release dates. Yeah, you could just have it be revealed through text in the next entry that Tim's pills were stolen while he was crawling around the school. That just wouldn't have been as good. It would have seen incomplete if our new protagonist didn't somehow explain the context of what he was doing during 79/80, considering he was there and a lot of it was out of context, and a video is the best way to explain that.

Yes, the series probably could have existed without this entry. It would have been worse. Maybe the next entry would have come out sooner, although frankly we don't know enough about their film schedule to pretend we know that at all, but if we are pretending that's true I still don't care. It doesn't matter to me if the series feasibly could have existed without this entry somehow. I'd like the series to be the best it could be rather than come out faster.

I like the entries, not just because I've "lowered" my expectations about the number of questions that will be answered, but because I don't consider the expectation of them not answering questions to be worse. I'm not really watching Marble Hornets for the mystery. I'm watching it for the scares, and it's consistently scary. I like entries like these. And if you disagree and think questions should be answered more rapidly, then you're entitled to your subjective opinion.

But here's a hint: If every time there isn't a big reveal in an entry, you dislike it, you aren't going to like most entries. I get still watching the series regardless, but when the same people are like "I'm so disappointed there weren't more answers" every single time an entry comes out, it starts to get less believable. You can't really expect it to be that way every single time. Once again, I'm not saying you should be used to it being bad at this point, I don't think the way they do the mystery is inherently bad, but I think if you don't like that it's probably really not you your taste. Why do people expect Marble Hornets to be completely different than it actually is before every entry? This has boggled my mind for years now. I genuinely don't get it.

[Camero]

Big thing this still leaves open is the possibility that Alex was "let go" rather than escaping. It seems odd that Hoodie would be stupid enough to just leave Alex by himself up there if he intended to keep him confined, and yet Hoodie doesn't seem to be "running away" from Alex either...

[awakeasaurusrex]

Hm, interesting entry. Some thoughts:

- Hoody seems very confident when it comes to running around in sewer pipes - much more so than Tim. (Just listen to how rapid Hoody's footsteps are when he dashes off down the pipe.) Definitely suggests that Hoody has been lurking under the college for some time - that sort of speed indicates that not only does he or she know how to navigate under there and knew exactly where he was headed, but also it suggests much more experience in crawling around in those sewer tunnels than Tim.

- The fact that Hoody thought to use the tunnels in the first place makes me wonder whether Hoody is someone who knows the college well - after all, unless you were reasonably familiar with the place you might never think to use the tunnels to get around in. Makes me mildly suspect Amy again since this is her old school.

- Alex was strolling around upstairs dazed, and seemed kind of spacey when Jay encountered him too. Could Hoody have kept him captive, drugged him so that he'd sleep, then loosed his bonds? That would give Hoody time to get well out of the blast radius once Alex regained consciousness provided he didn't dawdle about it. It makes me wonder whether this might have been intended as a trap for Tim instead of Jay - was Hoody aware of Tim's sewer explorations after all? If so, he might have gambled on being able to pull this off and getting Tim killed without Jay getting involved, having realised (via the YouTube channel) that Jay wouldn't realise anything was going on from his vantage point until the deed was done.

- Could "the ark" be a phonetic abbreviation of "archive"? The mention of the flood at the film department in Benedict Hall and the potential of a film archive there that includes lost Marble Hornets footage makes me wonder.

- There's all sorts of reasons why Tim might not be able to get more meds. He might not be able to afford the prescription any more if all of this sleuthing has meant he's lost his day job, for instance. If he can't get any more, that might add some tension to these last few entries as he gets more debilitated and Masky-ish. It might also mean that the final few entries become increasingly weird, as they end up being filmed by Tim in a Masky state.

[geekgirlinthefedora]

[Sha Noran]

To DHawk and awakeasaurusrex: Excellent posts and points!

The more I think about this Entry, the more I realize how much it reveals. Seeing things from Tim's perspective gave us the reason for the importance of Benedict Hall (presumably) because it was the film wing, where a flood apparently occurred and ruined most of the archive. Could there be a tape there that survived? Also, in Entry 80, both Tim and Jay coughed and the camera distorted when they went in the room labeled dark room. It seemed to me they didn't investigate that room too heavily, probably due to their more pressing priorities at their respective times to come across the room, but I found it very interesting that there was a mattress in there, among other things. Benedict Hall's background being revealed to some degree and seeming possibly relevant increases the intrigue of these potential clues regarding the ark, which has been a massive mystery since mention of it very first surfaced. I can't see how this Entry can be not relevant to the interests of those demanding answers and reveals.

[SilentMedusa]

Okay. I've never made a post like this, because I've never been on this side of the debate. But I'm going to now, because I'm tired of being told my opinion is wrong.

I don't think this entry is filler; in my mind filler is when it does absolutely nothing for the plot at all. And this entry did. Here's what I got out of it:

1) Tim did not set Jay up. Whether Jay was set up at all is debatable, but Tim is clear.

2) We know how Tim got into Benedict Hall without Jay seeing him.

3) We know why Tim was running away from the building.

4) It answered the question of what Tim was doing during Jay's exploits.

5) We know why it took Tim so long to go back after he left (I admit this was a non-issue for me; fun to speculate about but ultimately irrelevant).

6) It gave us a little insight into how Hoody's been moving around. The College, Hospital, and Rosswood are all fairly close to each other; I'd be willing to bet there are tunnels to all three locations (it might also explain Hoody's apparent disappearing acts; all he has to do is stay far enough ahead of a pursuer to slip into a tunnel out of their line of sight, and he's gone- vanished into thin air to them).

7) We know Tim is in more danger than ever; not only is he alone, he's out of medication.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head; I'll probably think of more later. That being said, I stand by my assertion that it didn't need to be fourteen minutes long. I'm not bitching about the wait, or the lack of big reveals; I honestly expected entry #81 to be a recap from Tim's perspective. And I'm more than used to waiting a month between entries. If this had come out a week after #80 I would still say it didn't need to be this long, because it didn't. It could've been cut in half and accomplished the same thing.

[DHawk314]

[FalloutGhoul]

[Marble Hornets]

[Nathanial]

Sorry, but this entry was just filler. Not that I care too much, it was expected. But defending it as anything but filler is grasping at staws and being in denial.

That said, it wasn't BAD... and I'm not bashing it. It just is what it is, and I would have been happy with an entry that answered some questions, or furthered the plot a little more. Was very scared when #80 was first released that #81 was going to be basically what this was.

Here's to hoping the next entry actually progresses the plot. We're getting into the end game, and every entry that comes along that doesn't seem to answer questions/progress the story.. the more nervous I get that the finale will be a let down.

And yes Whiteknights, I know we don't know exactly how many entries are left... But we're clearly getting pretty close to some sort of finale.

[Marble Hornets]