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EverymanHYBRID 2014
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GameGodOfAll
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ChildOfAtom wrote:

It was always my assumption that MH existed in the EMH universe, but only as a series. Elsewise where would they have gotten the idea to put a Slenderman "easter egg" in the fitness videos?

Yeah totally. That's canon as far as I know.

Man the beginning of EMH was the freaking best. Still love where it ll went aside from it crawling to a slow finish, but the start was so great. Nice and creative with a slow build.

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:04 pm

knifebladepresents
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Man the beginning of EMH was the freaking best. Still love where it ll went aside from it crawling to a slow finish, but the start was so great. Nice and creative with a slow build.

Yeah, and what I like about this series is that it used the slow build to advantage--instead of boring fans with a slow build, they developed their characters instead.

By the way, Jeff said on his Tumblr that the delays aren't intentional--there's just a lot of real-life stuff getting in the way lately.

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:13 pm

darkjesusmelb
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just a thought

Sorry if this is recycled knowledge, but a random user on the EMH wiki pointed out that the EMH logo had been removed from their Youtube account and not replaced. Is it safe to assume since the TT video "Severance" that this could be a particular reason for its removal?

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:04 am

knifebladepresents
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Now there's a thought.

Although its confusing. From the very beginning, HABIT had access to the EMH account (even before TT existed). Does that mean HABIT owned it all along and now he doesn't? Is it some kind of symbol of the Mining Town Four--because now if its gone...does that mean they're all...dead?! DUN DUN DUN

No, seriously...I'm confused.

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:02 pm

TheOperator
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According to Jeff, it's just Youtube messing things up.

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:34 am

Malckeor
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Oscar Langley wrote:

There's the Fake Slenderman entries with lots of MH references and in a later video they talk about wifin'. There's also a line about "Alex from that other series", I think that's from an IG interview on another channel.

Oh, I remember this. It was actually on their own channel, and the guy's name wasn't "Alex." It was in relation to some guy named "Magus" who won some kind of contest, and they began the video by saying "CONGRATULATIONS, MAGUS!!!" and then Evan said "Or, Jay" because Magus' actual name was apparently Jay. Vince then follows this with "In no relation to Jay from the OTHER series." The screen soon after abruptly distorts and shit goes down.

It was an early video; before they had a full comprehension of what they were facing. I think it was back when they were still in the "It's just some guy playing a prank on us" phase of the series.

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:17 pm

Wondertje
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OOG:

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Is it true that EMH is impossible to follow unless you've been there from the beginning? I've only recently started with ARE/ARG/Slenderman Mythos, and so far I caught up on TribeTwelve and Marble Hornets.

I really want to catch up on EMH as well, and see if it's something for me - however people keep telling me that it's not worth it because there are way too many things I've missed, even if I watch through every video from the beginning. Anyone who can tell me if this is correct, or if it's worth a try?

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:34 pm

knifebladepresents
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I found EMH in 2013.

Well, there's two ways you can watch this series and get all the content. You could read the timelines here:
http://everymanhybrid.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_2010

(they should also have links for the timelines of 2011, 2012, and 2013)

Another interesting alternative is this guy: http://www.youtube.com/user/NathanCHaskew/videos He's made complications of EVERYTHING (videos, tweets, even the monotonous live streams), between 2010 and 2012 (he hasn't gotten to 2013, but you can pretty much do that on your own).

While it is very confusing at times, its not IMPOSSIBLE to misunderstand the whole thing. The only reason why I'm confused about a few things is that I didn't watch that carefully (even then, I still know a lot). So keep a close idea for detail, as what you did with MH and TT, and you'd might ending up liking this series a lot. Smile

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:42 pm

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knifebladepresents wrote:

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Wow, thank you very much for that! Those videos from Nathan seem to be perfect for catching up on it all at once! Smile

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:45 pm

Oransel
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Hello, Lithp. Sorry, I've missed your post.

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I do not like that these terms are thrown around whenever someone kind of dislikes something. One person not liking a few characters or plot devices does not make the writing "bad." A million people not liking the whole story doesn't make it "bad." Yes, I know you're trying to support yourself with reasons, but proving that a character is "written badly" is astronomically difficult, because there are so many things that go into a character, so showing that a few of them are weaknesses isn't going to invalidate the rest.

Fiction is subjective. I may like whatever I like and don't like whatever I don't like. I can introduce my own subjective criterias for "good" and "bad" writing. I do not force you or anyone else to agree with me or share my opinion, though. There are some common tropes and rules about writing: what is bad, what is good, how to write this and that etc. But those rules are, again, not mandatory at all.

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Wow...a lot here.

1. He's the Informant character, so of course he is many steps ahead of the protagonists. This is also true of Masky/Hoody in Marble Hornets, Observer in Tribe Twelve, pretty much ever Slender Series ever.

2. When did he defeat Slenderman? And why is this an issue? This happened in Tribe Twelve months ago, & the rebuttal was "all-powerful Slenderman is boring & this is in Noah's character."

3. Having a high body count is not being a Villain Sue. Showing character deaths, rather than telling us about them in passing, is GOOD writing.

4. Okay, so we don't even know if he controls the Rake.

5. All those things you described have been powers of Slenderman. How can he do "much more than Slenderman"? By all accounts, Slenderman is way more powerful, & that is why HABIT is used--as dangerous as he is, he can at least be pushed back against.

1. HABIT is far more powerful and independent than those characters. I agree that it's not his negative trait, but in combination with his other characteristics he becomes annoying. I prefer subtlety of Hoody and "lawful evil" of Observer - both are restrained and work better because of that.

2. He released Firebrand and it looks like he has stolen EMH crew to toy with from the Slenderman's... Nose, I suppose?.. Anyway, my problem with this is how passive Slenderman is. He loses against HABIT and no retaliation?

3. Glorified violence for the sake of violelce - all for the single purpose of showing how badass your villain is...

4. True.

5. Slenderman has done much less to the EMH crew than HABIT. The only victim of Slendy was Alex, if I recall correctly. Both Slendy and Rake showed some restraint in their actions, while HABIT steamrolled into the EMH and destroyed whole group by himself through various powers.

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This journal thing is Tribe Twelve's plot point & I believe that Tribe Twelve has already invoked the Nazis in its backstory, so I don't think it's fair to blame HABIT for that.

Fair enough. It was logical move for them to connect their over-the-top villain with Nazis when the opportunity introduced itself.

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But other than that, I do agree with the argument that they sometimes ham him up too much. In a way, it's nice to see a villain who isn't afraid to sink to any low, especially when it doesn't come across as tasteless. But he can be predictably unimaginative, at times. "If you don't do this thing I want, I'm going to cut something off of you! Hahaha!"

To each his own. I find him tasteless. This is the problem, actually. There is nothing original about him. Just your average Joker behaviour with "magic" powers. And yes, he is unimaginative most of the time.

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Still, I have to say that his hamminess is his Kryptonite & his strength. "Severance" put the protagonist of Tribe Twelve--in my opinion at his best acting at the time--against the antagonist of another series, & the antagonist stole the show. HABIT was very 3 dimensional in the latest crossover video. He tried to help, revealing that he sympathized with Noah, but still threatened him when he got sick of Noah's shit, but THEN pulled it back when he realized that threats probably weren't going to get him what he wanted...the point is his actions were neither those of a 1D villain, nor someone who couldn't do anything to Noah because he had Plot Armor. Speaking of Noah & his Plot Armor, I hate to shit on Tribe Twelve like this, but what does it say about Noah if he's so special that a "Villain Sue" feels compelled to go out of its way to help him out of the "good"ness of its heart? HABIT also says that he's "not as stupid as the others," meaning that he's praised over the cast of HABIT's OWN SERIES.

He was not exactly multidemensional here... Character demensions are more complex than persuasive/aggressive/calm/sad moods. It's the motivation and inner psychology. And HABIT always has one motivation - to torture everyone around him and battle Slenderman. Speaking of Tribe Twelve, I agree with you. There are a lot of things I do not like much, the Chosen One concept of Noah is one of them. Despite that, scene was well-made for what it was and acting was great as well.

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I also agree that screen time given to HABIT & Slenderman is imbalanced in HABIT's favor, but again, that's something that happens a lot, which upon further reflection, I think might be what you are saying here:

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"As a watcher, I'd prefer guys to return back to Slenderseries."

Yes, that's exactly what I meant.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:11 am
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SignerJ
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Oransel wrote:

2. He released Firebrand and it looks like he has stolen EMH crew to toy with from the Slenderman's... Nose, I suppose?.. Anyway, my problem with this is how passive Slenderman is. He loses against HABIT and no retaliation?

Some of us (or at least me) believe that HABIT and the Slender Man are still working together. A case can be made either way, but I personally think that there is more evidence for the cooperation theory. We discussed it somewhere in the 2013 thread.

Oransel wrote:

5. Slenderman has done much less to the EMH crew than HABIT. The only victim of Slendy was Alex, if I recall correctly. Both Slendy and Rake showed some restraint in their actions, while HABIT steamrolled into the EMH and destroyed whole group by himself through various powers.

I never thought of it that way. You have a very good point.
Though, to be honest, the only powers I can recall HABIT exhibiting would be possession, and possibly teleportation (though I think this was more of the Slender Man's doing than HABIT's). Were there any other specific powers you were thinking of?

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:22 am

kira1000
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SignerJ wrote:

Oransel wrote:

from what I have read of some of the articles on the timeline, HABIT may be able to influence others besides those he possessed, one such article mentioned that he had made the police officers escorting him laugh maniacally as they killed eachother.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:58 am

AssassinB
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SignerJ wrote:

Just want to interject here, if you count it as a power HABIT has unfathomable experience with torture, fighting with and without weapons and psychological warfare with common humans and extensive knowledge of how the human body works just because of the fact that HABIT manifests himself whenever his "spirit" or whatever is called for to be there in a crazy enough situation or when someone strikes the spirit of HABITs fancy like a serial killer or something similar.

I consider that a superpower, I wouldn't have the first clue how to dismember someone slowly while they're still living right off the top of my head like it was second nature.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:32 am

knifeman
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I don't know if you consider limitless a power either, but Habit seems to do whatever the fuck he wants.

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Murders Evan's best friends, and eats Evan's newborn child...I mean, that is fucked up. Also, brings the Rake around like a pet, and had the power to heal Evan perfectly after he was split open by the Rake.

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SLOW AND STEADY WINS THE RACE.

Also, The Mystery of the ManTree or whatever is pretty cool.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:55 pm

SignerJ
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So apparently, HABIT has more powers than I remembered.
I'm not going to consider "years of experience torturing people" a superpower. I think of it more as knowledge. Does that makes sense?

kira1000 wrote:

I forgot about that. Thanks for the reminder.
*shudder*

knifeman wrote:

had the power to heal Evan perfectly after he was split open by the Rake.

From what I remember about the information given on CYSTW, that power belongs to Tall and Faceless, not HABIT.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:30 pm

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