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wassupbro
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MariahTedder wrote:
I think this entry is a nice tie-in with the Operator's name itself, as previously mentioned most likely.

He can affect PHONE CALLS and has only taken injured people to Oppy-world (Bruce, Jessica, Jay). Uninjured ones are just tormented, like Tim, and eventually stumble out with no memory unless if they have a chest cam.


Not necessarily true about the injured thing though. Jessica was never injured before the Operator took her away, but then again it does show Alex handling his gun, then cuts to a shot of her lying in the street, and then she disappears. So its possible the Operator brought her back, had Alex shoot her, and then took her away again. Even so, that still leaves Amy. I highly doubt Alex did anything to her but still, anythings possible

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Ascalondion wrote:
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Why does Tims plan to get his medicine back not invovle *go to the pharmacy*?


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Like someone else mentioned, the veryfact that it is a perscription is the issue. Perscriptions have have a set number of refills for a set amount of time. If you try to get a refill when you are out or too soon after the previosu one you are either going to be rejected or have to have your doctor approve it (after a visit). This is so people don't try to abuse potentially abusable drugs or sell them for profit.


m1k3y2424 wrote:
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Confirmed. jay is Hoody. Sad


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Not confirmed at all. Especially since they havebeen on camera together multiple times. Confirmation of a masky-esque personality, but not confirmation of Jay is hoodie


hachiman wrote:
And nothing happened when he crossed the tunnel.


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Nothing except appearing in a place he has been before via a route he did not traverse when leaving it before. Implying that he either got teleported or the layout of the park changed.


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Lytrigian
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wassupbro wrote:


Posting to show that the circle at the bottom left is in fact not an operator symbol

Indeed. However:


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wassupbro
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Lytrigian wrote:

Indeed. However:


Don't you think Jay would have noticed that? Its there for sure, but I wonder if they needed to use the shed regardless of OOG grafiti from MH fans. Idk for sure tho

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wassupbro wrote:

Don't you think Jay would have noticed that? Its there for sure, but I wonder if they needed to use the shed regardless of OOG grafiti from MH fans. Idk for sure tho

If they wanted to hide it they'd have obscured it with other graffiti, or approached the shack from a different direction.

Seeing as Jay missed the Operator himself at least once, when we all immediately spotted him, he was probably too freaked out and panicked to notice much of anything.

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Lytrigian wrote:
wassupbro wrote:

Don't you think Jay would have noticed that? Its there for sure, but I wonder if they needed to use the shed regardless of OOG grafiti from MH fans. Idk for sure tho

If they wanted to hide it they'd have obscured it with other graffiti, or approached the shack from a different direction.

Seeing as Jay missed the Operator himself at least once, when we all immediately spotted him, he was probably too freaked out and panicked to notice much of anything.


I think you are right.

And I think we can assume who did this, but the question remains when exactly did Hoody do it. Was it intended to be found at a time like this?

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wassupbro wrote:
Lytrigian wrote:
wassupbro wrote:

Don't you think Jay would have noticed that? Its there for sure, but I wonder if they needed to use the shed regardless of OOG grafiti from MH fans. Idk for sure tho

If they wanted to hide it they'd have obscured it with other graffiti, or approached the shack from a different direction.

Seeing as Jay missed the Operator himself at least once, when we all immediately spotted him, he was probably too freaked out and panicked to notice much of anything.


I think you are right.

And I think we can assume who did this, but the question remains when exactly did Hoody do it. Was it intended to be found at a time like this?

Or maybe intended as a warning to "M" (Masky?) and Jay that the place had been compromised?

I'm not sure what that word is underneath. It looks like "slip", but I can't say whether or not it's meaningful, or even related to the other graffiti.

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Sha Noran
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wassupbro wrote:
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Finally, one last thought in relation to my 6th point... There is another instance of a very strange phone related anomaly occurring in Rosswood, and it also happened when someone tried to go through the tunnel. Remember in 64/65 when Alex called Jay and said "Leave. Now." That was SUPER fucking random and weird and never really explained. Was that TO using a clip of Alex's voice to try and communicate with the intruders? Or was Alex temporarily in a timey wimey situation himself, calling a Jay whom he still thought was his ally? What if the Alex that calls Jay in 64 was in fact past Alex from the missing seven months in S2 when he and Jay were still allies? Just some food for thought, obviously speculation but that was never explained.


I was going to bring this up too. If you think about it, why the fuck would Alex ever say that? He wants to kill them, but when they reach the tunnel....he calls Jay and tells him to leave? That makes no sense.


Honestly man, more perplexing than the motive for Alex to do this is how the hell he would know to do it in the first place. Alex had been trying to track and kill both of them, why would he not attack them if he were nearby? How could he possibly have been aware of their situation or location? And if he had Jay's phone number this whole time, and he's trying to find them, and he knows Jay will answer if he calls, why the hell is this the only time he's called and the only thing he's said to them? Wtf?

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 		I believe what was happening to Jay was definitely him getting his first? 'masky' state initiated. Therefore it might be possible that hoody in the last few entries could have been Jay.
Also the 'ark' might really just be referencing the tunnel at this rate.
Regarding the other side;
I think it is a 'Silent Hill' type of parallel dimension, where nothing make sense and there is a greater power in control (TO). No outgoing data, corrupted incoming data.

Now for an outrageous theory which is most likely not true;
When Jay walks across the tunnel, this creates 2 parallel universes, one on the other side (what we watched in this entry) and the regular timeline where Jay turns back and does everything as we've seen (going to Tim's, getting tied up...) This timeline's Jay got killed by Alex, but the other one is still on the 'otherworld' and will return in a time-warp fashion. OR The otherworld Jay has been there for a much longer time since time does not flow regularly, like the lounge in Twin Peaks, and has been sending clues to himself and Tim as totheark. Therefore totheark != Hoody. Random, I know.

Nevertheless, superb entry.

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AAAAA42 wrote:
I dunno, maybe it's just a coincidence, but I thought this really looked like a deliberate similarity.





Edit: Also, did the objects scattered around the area behind the tunnel look like boats to anyone else?


I agree with both of your points.

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Sha Noran wrote:
-two things about 77 and 78 are very unsettling now... 1) In 77, that last time Jay lunged for the knife on the counter after Tim got it away from him... If Jay is proxified, it turns out Tim got very lucky he treated him as he did and left him behind and 2) In 78, when Hoody freed Jay, did Hoody know Jay was proxified and in violent mode? That ominous message on the mirror becomes even more ominous if he did... Was Hoody provoking a violent response from Jay? Did he do the same to Alex? And considering this, is that why Hoody swung a wrench at Jay in 79? Because he knew Jay was in a crazed and violent state and thus feared him?


I'm surprised that no one has speculated this, but what if Jay was out of his "fugue" state by the time Hoody arrived? The Operator might have had control over Jay when Jay went after Tim, but I am very confident that Jay was not under TO's control when he found Alex. So somewhere between Tim abandoning him and getting into Benedict Hall, Jay escaped TO's influence.

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 		This entry was pretty dope. Gave a lot of answers. I like how operator fucked up jays head when he was actually being apologetic towards Tim and not infuriated like I originally thought he had been.

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 		OOG:
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If you watch carefully, anytime those markings on that side of the building appear in the frame the shot goes blurry. I'd be willing to bet they blurred those shots in post production because they didn't put them there themselves - I'm guessing it was "fan" tourist tagging. I doubt they are canon, as in legitimately and intentionally placed by a character in-game. Ask Troy, I bet he'd answer that question.


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Lytrigian
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SignerJ wrote:
I'm surprised that no one has speculated this, but what if Jay was out of his "fugue" state by the time Hoody arrived? The Operator might have had control over Jay when Jay went after Tim, but I am very confident that Jay was not under TO's control when he found Alex. So somewhere between Tim abandoning him and getting into Benedict Hall, Jay escaped TO's influence.

How do we know that someone under TO's control is aware of that fact? From their point of view, perhaps everything they do is reasonable and rational. It's only when seen from the outside that they're evidently acting on TO's behalf. Alex probably feels he has good reason to feel threatened by Jay and company; shooting them may be only an act of perceived self-defense. When Jay went to Tim's place to (at least) tie him up with the zipties, he probably felt as if Tim was a clear and present danger that had to be dealt with. He must have made a deliberate decision at some point to not post the video we just saw; had he "come out of it" he'd have changed his mind.

I except times when one of TO's victims really does go Full Masky. That's more like a psychotic break than anything else.

No one here is a reliable narrator. No one's point of view can be entirely trusted. Everyone's motivations are suspect at all times.

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Sha Noran wrote:
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If you watch carefully, anytime those markings on that side of the building appear in the frame the shot goes blurry. I'd be willing to bet they blurred those shots in post production because they didn't put them there themselves - I'm guessing it was "fan" tourist tagging. I doubt they are canon, as in legitimately and intentionally placed by a character in-game. Ask Troy, I bet he'd answer that question.

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Then why didn't they blur them into illegibility? I didn't even have to do anything fancy to get the screen cap; just a well-timed pause in YT, and I spotted them first. That's why I paused it for a closer look. The "blur" doesn't look added post-production; it looks like normal motion blur to me.


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