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[VIDEO] Entry #82
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bowntsquad
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Lytrigian wrote:
The Happy Madman wrote:
Lytrigian wrote:
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When Jay "fell" and "dropped the camera", they obviously concealed an edit where they moved to a different location.


The area at that point looks the same to me. I noticed a cut at 4:55, however.

The traffic sounds disappear and the light changes. We see Jay losing his balance by his shadow; afterward it's too cloudy for him to cast a shadow. And the area doesn't look the same to me at all other than that he's still in the woods.

But yes, there's also a cut at 4:56, when there was not a big change in the traffic sounds but the sunlight got suddenly bright. Or was it a warp? Is that when the shape of Rosswood twisted around him? Did it happen twice?


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I think everyone is overlooking the obvious similarities between the teleport at 4:56 and all the crazy stuff that happened to tim in entry 65 when he went through the tunnel. Jumping to conclusions that Rosswood somehow misshapen simply because Jay somehow ended up at the shack would be a little bit of a far stretch if you ask me, seeing how Slendy has already teleported Tim all over the place.

OOG its interesting how when the shack first shows up in 62 they never show us how they got there or left. (just to recap Jay and Tim wake up there after a Hoody attack and right before they leave Jay's camera dies.

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aidansean wrote:
I just remembered that Jay stashed the camera case in the trunk of his car in Entry #52. If he hasn't touched it since then, Tim should go back to the car and get it! There must be something interesting in it.


Yes! Return of that... satchel... thing...

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Sha Noran
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TheManPF wrote:
So, I was thinking, if Tim receives Jay's call in the future, what the hell is going to happen if he actually answers?


He already didn't answer. Probably for normal reasons.

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I still think the most terrifying part of this Entry is that it hints to the Operator trying to actually achieve something.

Also, do you remember how Jay tried to tweet at Tim, but Tim didn't answer? Who's to say Tim saw the phone call and just instantly hung up? From what I know, if a phone is turned off, it shouldn't ring just once.

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wassupbro wrote:
Also, do you remember how Jay tried to tweet at Tim, but Tim didn't answer?

It's defined as "calling."
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New theory: Hoody broke into Tim's house again and took his phone. S/he heard Jay's message and that's why they went to free him in Entry #78 and wrote the message about "Last chance." That's also why Tim never received the message.

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Hm. The entry itself was really good, as everyone's saying, but I have to question its place in the series.

Basically, why wasn't this shown immediately after the entry where Jay watches the tape with Jessica on it? Why didn't Jay just upload his footage straight to the channel? It would have made his confrontation with Tim even more tense for us viewers because we'd know there is good reason why Tim would be so defensive and an explanation why Jay is so hostile all of a sudden. It would have made Entry 80 even more cathartic and depressing! And it would mean a lot less people would hate Tim because it'd have meant the reason Tim was so defensive in tying up Jay was because he'd seen this entry and expected an Operator-influenced Jay.

I'm legitimately trying to figure out why this entry had to have been placed here.

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blackup76 wrote:
lostlegendz wrote:
I'm on my phone so I couldn't get a good look, but at around 8:21/22 when Jay enters the shack, there very briefly appears to be a paper with TO symbol on it. The paper also seems to have some sort of address on it, like for an advertisment, but the thing that caught my eye was that the name "Brian" looked like it was on it. It could very well be nothing but I just thought I'd mention it just in case.


I think you might be right. Could be nothing. All I could make out was:

(...)ELL...A(U or O)T...(Further inspection points to the last word being "AUTO", so a car/repair shop ad)
410 Bridge
Northport, Ala...(looks like a b on the end, so possibly Alabama?)
Ph(one) 205...

So, a random auto shop in Alabama. Google Maps, anyone? Be sure to look for the sign. A lot of the series takes place nearby that location.

OOG:
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Please don't put too much thought or effort into things like this. The location they're filming in was probably just a dumping site that people use illegally. There was a large forest near my old house that had this same kind of issue. I'm about 99% certain that this is just random junk that they thought would add an eerie flavor to the video. I don't think the location is worth looking into.


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Why can't they just walk over the tunnel instead of going through it? I think there'd be much less raggle-fraggle warping and crap if they'd do that.

That looks to me like a highway, and based on the sound of cars, reasonably busy. Also, it's been implied that walking through the tunnel has some kind of displacement effect, so walking around it probably wouldn't lead Jay to where he was trying to go.

The Happy Madman wrote:
Oh, and what the muffins is that tall thing in the background at 5:56 and 6:26? I don't have a screenshot of it, so go check it out yourself. It looked like a tower to me at first, but then I thought it was a tree. I'm still not sure what it is.

Definitely some kind of tower. I can't tell what its function is.

Regarding the voicemail and Jay's apologetic/violent switch: Until I have further evidence about this, I'm running on the assumption that somehow the Operator somehow prevented that call from actually reaching Tim, whether due to Jay being in bizarro-world at the time or actively interfering with the phone's intended operation. Tim will not receive the call in the future.

Following from that, Tim had no way of knowing what was going on with Jay when he arrived at Tim's house. From Tim's perspective, it looks like Jay was attacking him shortly after watching the tape that Tim tried to hide from Jay, so Tim was automatically on the defensive.

DJay32 wrote:
Hm. The entry itself was really good, as everyone's saying, but I have to question its place in the series.

Basically, why wasn't this shown immediately after the entry where Jay watches the tape with Jessica on it? Why didn't Jay just upload his footage straight to the channel? It would have made his confrontation with Tim even more tense for us viewers because we'd know there is good reason why Tim would be so defensive and an explanation why Jay is so hostile all of a sudden. It would have made Entry 80 even more cathartic and depressing! And it would mean a lot less people would hate Tim because it'd have meant the reason Tim was so defensive in tying up Jay was because he'd seen this entry and expected an Operator-influenced Jay.

I'm legitimately trying to figure out why this entry had to have been placed here.

Tim found that video on Jay's laptop. To me, this says that Jay was attempting to hide it for some yet-unknown reason -- though I suspect it's because Jay was in a fugue state after this encounter and did not remember it after coming out of it when Hoody freed him.

This isn't the first (or even second) time Jay has done this.

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Ristar wrote:
Didn't anyone notice that Jay was wearing the exact same clothing Hoody wears? except for the hood and the mask of course


Hey, I have Hoody's shoes, gloves, jeans, hoody, and mask. Maybe future me = Hoody?

I was also thinking about the cut at 4:56, it may not be teleportation, but rather editing by Jay/Tim.
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The Happy Madman wrote:
Ristar wrote:
Didn't anyone notice that Jay was wearing the exact same clothing Hoody wears? except for the hood and the mask of course


Hey, I have Hoody's shoes, gloves, jeans, hoody, and mask. Maybe future me = Hoody?

I was also thinking about the cut at 4:56, it may not be teleportation, but rather editing by Jay/Tim.


I thought this was debunked after Alex screamed "WHERE ARE JAY AND TIM!?" at Hoody after he had unmasked himself off camera. Why are people are still on this future Jay theory?

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aidansean wrote:
New theory: Hoody broke into Tim's house again and took his phone. S/he heard Jay's message and that's why they went to free him in Entry #78 and wrote the message about "Last chance." That's also why Tim never received the message.


I stand by my own theory of Tim getting the call and having his memory wiped but yours is a definite possibility. I just can't get behind the idea that TO has magic phone blocking abilities.

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I find that unlikely. Tim specifically says that he doesn't remember getting any calls that day, which implies that he had his phone with him. If he lost his phone around when Jay was supposed to have made that call, he'd probably have mentioned that.

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Alright, I'm going to put up my belief of how the chain of events went: Jay takes the tape from Tim and runs off. He watches it. Shortly after watching it -but before uploading it- he goes to Rosswood to retrace Alex and Jessica's steps (probably looking for some speck of proof of what happened to her or where she is, though I don't know what he though he'd find literally years after the fact). He calls Tim trying to patch things up. The Operator jumps him and does... something to him that makes him violent and unstable. He posts #76 as a justification of what he's about to do. He goes to Tim's house, where his plan backfires and he gets trussed up with his own zip ties. Tim leaves. Hoody arrives and sets Jay free. In between Tim leaving and Hoody showing up Jay snaps out of whatever state he was in, which is why he was desperately looking for some of Tim's pills; he knew he was in a bad way and tried to do something about it. We all know what happened from there.

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The Operator interferes with technology. He fucks with cameras. It doesn't seem all that out there to me that he could block a phone call in the woods. Especially weird woods with weird shifting geography.

Although speaking of that, I actually don't think that Rosswood shifted, or that the tunnel teleports you, or that Rosswood is anything special. I think the Operator was following Jay and he just teleported him without him noticing. Also, is it not possible that the Operator literally teleported the phone laser signal things? Is that not technically completely within his known set of powers?
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What was the apologetic/violent switch then?
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