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toolsquatch
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 		I get that it's supposed to be presented in a found-footage manner, but...honestly it gets pretty confusing due to a lack of any sort of narrative: huge chunks of the entries at Benedict Hall merely consist of Jay or Tim running around in the dark, and half the time I honestly don't know what the Hell is going on anymore. it wasn't always this bad, but I'd have to go back and rewatch everything to figure out when they started letting the understandability of the entries slip.

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Sha Noran
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 		Entry 82 had good pacing, suspense, wasn't too long or short, gave us some answers and had excellent Operator appearances. 10/10 imo

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 		I like that this entry gave us an explanation for Jay's unhinged behavior in #77. He didn't just snap under the strain; The Operator did something to him.

And a thought I have on the series overall. It seems all of this may have started with Tim, when he was just a little boy. And it looks like there aiming to bring it full circle and have it end with him. I like that. Smile

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 		Entry #82 was the best entry other than #72. Excellent emotional connection, a shocking event that implies big things for other questions (like #65 did with The Operator drowning Tim) and a pretty cool twist that Jay had actually intended to keep working with Tim despite Tim's hiding the tape. Makes Tim tying up Jay and leaving him all the more tragic.

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SilentMedusa wrote:
I like that this entry gave us an explanation for Jay's unhinged behavior in #77. He didn't just snap under the strain; The Operator did something to him.

And a thought I have on the series overall. It seems all of this may have started with Tim, when he was just a little boy. And it looks like there aiming to bring it full circle and have it end with him. I like that. Smile


Actually, we cannot be sure that this whole thing started with Tim as a kid. Case in point enttry 37

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Actually, we cannot be sure that this whole thing started with Tim as a kid. Case in point enttry 37


If you're implying about TO appearing, it might've been edited in by TTA.

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hachiman wrote:
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Actually, we cannot be sure that this whole thing started with Tim as a kid. Case in point enttry 37


If you're implying about TO appearing, it might've been edited in by TTA.


Effectively removing 99% of the scare factor compared to if TO's appearance was genuine, in what is currently one of the scariest entries.

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hachiman wrote:
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Actually, we cannot be sure that this whole thing started with Tim as a kid. Case in point enttry 37


If you're implying about TO appearing, it might've been edited in by TTA.


I always thought it all started with either Alex or Tim.

For Tim in general, he either has schizophrenia or he doesn't. He doesn't show many signs of it which makes me believe that he really did encounter slender as a child. Although, I feel as if he fights between the two because slender appears on tape when Tim is filming and he'll ignore it thinking its only his schizophrenia.

For Alex, entry 37 does seem to be a slender encounter, but I like the idea that TTA edited it. Not sure why he would do that though unless it was to draw attention away from Tim being the start of it.

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 		Tim's childhood has to be linked to the Operator. Not so much the mental illness, which is more vague, but the seizures. Those medical documents say he's been having seizures since he was a kid. It's not just that Tim has a seizure in 64 when he encounters the Operator, making me think they're almost certainly linked, but Jay has seizures.

Jay has a seizure in 72, and another one in 82. He also hallucinates, such as in 69 and 72, which Tim does too in 65. Of course it's also hinted some of Tim's hallucinations may have been the Operator, and its also possible the Operator has some sort of selective invisibility, explaining the whole appearance in the grass in 72 thing. So maybe that evidence is invalid.

But the seizures; Tim can't just have seizures and then suddenly meet a monster who causes them, not just in him but in Jay. Between that and the hallucinations, the symptoms are just too similar.
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Ztakk
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DHawk314 wrote:
Tim's childhood has to be linked to the Operator. Not so much the mental illness, which is more vague, but the seizures. Those medical documents say he's been having seizures since he was a kid. It's not just that Tim has a seizure in 64 when he encounters the Operator, making me think they're almost certainly linked, but Jay has seizures.

Jay has a seizure in 72, and another one in 82. He also hallucinates, such as in 69 and 72, which Tim does too in 65. Of course it's also hinted some of Tim's hallucinations may have been the Operator, and its also possible the Operator has some sort of selective invisibility, explaining the whole appearance in the grass in 72 thing. So maybe that evidence is invalid.

But the seizures; Tim can't just have seizures and then suddenly meet a monster who causes them, not just in him but in Jay. Between that and the hallucinations, the symptoms are just too similar.


They're drawing a lot of parallels between what happens to Tim around The Operator and what happens to Jay around TO. I'd say you're right when you say that Tim's childhood was linked to The Operator.

Another bit to support this is a fact I've brought up many times before that nobody seems to pay attention to and that's the fact that Tim says that while he was in the mental hospital, he kept getting out of his room and they'd find him in Rosswood. TO had to have been teleporting him out of there because anyone with half a brain knows you.do.not.just.leave.a.mental.hospital.like.that. First off, mental hospitals have locked windows, and then typically bars or metal grates over the windows. Any and all doors are also locked day and night. On the off chance that Tim managed to get out of the building once, he would have been put on serious lockdown after that to where it's HIGHLY doubtful he would have escaped under his own means.

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Ztakk wrote:
TO had to have been teleporting him out of there because anyone with half a brain knows you.do.not.just.leave.a.mental.hospital.like.that. First off, mental hospitals have locked windows, and then typically bars or metal grates over the windows. Any and all doors are also locked day and night. On the off chance that Tim managed to get out of the building once, he would have been put on serious lockdown after that to where it's HIGHLY doubtful he would have escaped under his own means.


This however means that you're under the assumption that Tim was in a high-risk facility. Most mental institution aren't that high-rish adjusted, and they will have the corridors open during visitor hours, pretty much like a regular hospital would during the day (meaning you can enter and leave through the front door without much hazzle) - and if that's the case, all Tim would have to have done was to crouch down/hide until the reception staff looked away for a second and then stroll out the door. Alternatively, the windows might not've been locked in a low-risk facility.

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Ztakk wrote:
Another bit to support this is a fact I've brought up many times before that nobody seems to pay attention to and that's the fact that Tim says that while he was in the mental hospital, he kept getting out of his room and they'd find him in Rosswood. TO had to have been teleporting him out of there because anyone with half a brain knows you.do.not.just.leave.a.mental.hospital.like.that. First off, mental hospitals have locked windows, and then typically bars or metal grates over the windows. Any and all doors are also locked day and night. On the off chance that Tim managed to get out of the building once, he would have been put on serious lockdown after that to where it's HIGHLY doubtful he would have escaped under his own means.


I realize that this is not the normal experience, but my best friend would so challenge you on that. She's had personal experience. Wink

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Ztakk
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Wondertje wrote:
Ztakk wrote:
TO had to have been teleporting him out of there because anyone with half a brain knows you.do.not.just.leave.a.mental.hospital.like.that. First off, mental hospitals have locked windows, and then typically bars or metal grates over the windows. Any and all doors are also locked day and night. On the off chance that Tim managed to get out of the building once, he would have been put on serious lockdown after that to where it's HIGHLY doubtful he would have escaped under his own means.


This however means that you're under the assumption that Tim was in a high-risk facility. Most mental institution aren't that high-rish adjusted, and they will have the corridors open during visitor hours, pretty much like a regular hospital would during the day (meaning you can enter and leave through the front door without much hazzle) - and if that's the case, all Tim would have to have done was to crouch down/hide until the reception staff looked away for a second and then stroll out the door. Alternatively, the windows might not've been locked in a low-risk facility.


Even if he was in a low risk facility after the first few times he got out, they'd at least be keeping a closer watch on him. I would also assume that Tim was in a med-high risk facility. Look at his records, he had tons of stuff , some of it could possibly cause physical harm to himself. I'm going to have to rewatch Entry 66, but it keeps coming to mind that Tim said they also had to sedate him multiple times ( I may be remembering this all wrong or fabricating stuff of course).

EDIT: He says that they upped the dosage of his meds to the point of him being numb.

Either way, this being a series about a supernatural being that's constantly teleporting people around, it's not that far of a stretch that this is a possibility.

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The only experience I've had with a mental hospital is visiting a friend in a facility that had different sections for risks. Like one section was high, medium, etc etc etc. In general the whole facility looked like it was set up like a prison.


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Ztakk wrote:
Either way, this being a series about a supernatural being that's constantly teleporting people around, it's not that far of a stretch that this is a possibility.


Fair enough, I'd agree with that. It's even very possible that this is the case, seeing how the series has progressed in terms of Tim/Hospital/TO relations.

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 		Wrong topic to be discussing theories and speculation

I thought 82 was a nice change of pace because it finally progressed our knowledge of a big mystery in a way

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