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[knifeman]

Oh, I didn't know that, thanks

[AssassinB]

Yeah I guess that makes sense, but the fact that a spirit can maintain these grotesque memories and preform them flawlessly over a vast amount of time and human history that he was most likely around to see the beginning of is kinda crazy.

I mean, he's basically invincible, all he has to do is jump to a different vessel if he fucks up, and he won't fuck up a second time cause he'll just take over whoever killed the old one. (I guess this was kinda already covered but whatever.)

Then there is that teleportation thing he did with Noah, but that makes me wonder what other kind of parlor tricks does he have under his sleeve?

I'm trying to think some more but I feel like that's about it. Someone should make a straight list now because I don't think there's much more to add.

[Lithp]

[Oransel]

[TheOperator]

[device]

Hmmm. It doesn't bother me that Habit is the way he is... I actually find the character refreshing, in a way. The "dark, tortured inwardly noble" supervillian thing can be a bit cliche... we see it in movies all the time. Habit has a long-term goal, obviously, but mostly he seems to be about keeping himself entertained.

What I think is interesting is he displays traits that are common among psychopathic serial killers. He's so incredibly narcissistic. He documents his atrocities, every murder is a big creative song-and-dance production, he craves recognition and attention, he keeps souvenirs. (I remember Doc C. thinking about how he could never bring himself to look at Fairmont Evan's photo collection).

He even forces his own victims tell him how clever he is. Habit wants to think he's special, but he has to rely on those he supposedly despises most for that reinforcement.

He pretends to be all powerful, like he's playing a game he can't lose.

However...
In one of the early hidden videos you see him trapped in Evan's body, unable to remove the handcuffs he's wearing.

He tell's Jeff that they can't let him live because he's smart and wants to figure everything out- so Jeff was a potential threat to them.

He needs Vinnie and Noah alive for some reason... to perform some sort of task for him. He can't pull this off alone, it seems.

When the Slendy-controlled guys converged at the house Daniel was at, he told them all to go home. He didn't attempt to possess them, he had to kill them himself, so he could be the one who murders Daniel.

As for the Nazi connection, both Tribe Twelve and Dark Harvest have connected Slenderman to the Nazis in the past, so it's not a big jump to connect it in EMH as well, especially now that they've been crossing over so much.

It's pretty obvious Slenderman is his equal in power, and that Habit probably resents this in a big way. It's possible that the Nazis, with their occult experimentation, were the ones who brought him into our world, and Habit views him as a rival, a poacher on his territory.

I think this series isn't about the battle between slenderman and the guys. That's how we perceived it in the beginning, because of the way if was filmed. But Habit was also a part of the early videos, we just didn't know it.

But it's likely that it's a battle of Habit against Slenderman.

[knifebladepresents]

I don't remember HABIT being in handcuffs, but OK.

I think HABIT has existed longer than that though--he's mentioned possessing mass killers that existed before Hitler (I think Vlad the Impaler was one them).

Honestly, I do like the idea of HABIT having a weakness. He needs one. He's just trying to hide it behind the mask of a Joker-like psychopath killer. He needs Vinny and Noah to help him complete a cycle of some kind.

I really need to re-marathon this series.

[AssassinB]

Speaking of the hidden videos, do you think that (if we're going with the iteration theory still) that those are the base instances of all the guys? I thought in the hidden videos they were in a timeless place, so most likely in Dr. C's universe, or what we've been calling the candleverse. I think that maybe the solution to ending HABIT might be trapping him permanently inside Evans body, so that he'll be forced to share the vessel, almost like a genie trapped in a bottle waiting for someone to release it from its slavery.

Or maybe, HABIT does it to himself, to keep his vessel alive and kicking, but has some unanticipated side effects.

I dunno, just a random thought that popped into my mind when device brought up that video of Evan/HABIT in handcuffs, I mean he was clearly still aggressive as we can see in that video, but not all the time because we see Evan is still present as he participates willingly in the conversation until he gets up to try to get the handcuff key, as if the two consciousnesses melded.

[Lithp]

[Slendery]

[SignerJ]

[TheOperator]

[TheOperator]

*siiiigh*

Spoilers for the new TribeTwelve:

[Peppercorn]

I fail to see how Noah spitting at HABIT should be controversial. He didn't retaliate because he didn't care. In fact, he taunts Noah about how insults don't mean anything to him, since it was established before that he enjoys seeing his victims use the f-bomb as a last resort in preserving their dignity. If anything, this should make him more threatening, because it shows yet again that humans are playthings to him.

[TheOperator]

It effectively removes any sort of threatening atmosphere he once had, no matter what you say or do to HABIT, we now know he won't do anything back.