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SENTENCE JUMBLE PUZZLE, ASAP
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bskye
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SENTENCE JUMBLE PUZZLE, ASAP
I have a series of letters that need to be solved...

These are the letters I have found:

rlwnrogtcwnemswcieelnmtlxnalliao

Can anyone make sense of them??

PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:22 pm
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Wondertje
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In what context? It's very difficult to help unscramble something, if you don't know where you got them from and why/to what purpose they need to be unscrambled - since you can't really get a hint of the direction.

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bskye
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It is an anagram I believe. There was not much context given. I finished finding the letters and they are as follows:

ornmteteleelxngtcnrliaosmxallwntwhwci

and it will be two short phrases or sentences, as I also found to period marks.

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Wondertje
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And no letters were capitalised as to help with the start of the sentences/phrases?

My first reaction was that there are two x's in there, letters that aren't all too common in every day phrases. So I'd start from that point of view.

Secondly, I'd look into what the longest words I can see are. In this case I'd use something like this to find that Enrollment is the longest word possible (according to this database). Meaning, it most likely doesn't have any words longer than that.

If you enter the string you've got at the link I gave you, it will list the words from longest to shortest - might help you get a hint of what to try and get out of it.

I'll look at it for a bit, but I don't think I can do much more Razz

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catherwood
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A good puzzle won't scramble that many letters without having a pattern to unscramble them (because it leaves too much to random chance, for starters). Some common scramble techniques include the Railfence cipher and column transposition.

Try this Railfence tool. http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/railfence.php
If you play with the number of rails (set it for Decrypt and leave the offset at zero), you should start to see a word form at the end. (Scroll down to see the result automatically refresh in the box below, which is sometimes lower than the default browser window.

A transposition cipher puts your text into columns and then lets you swap the columns. A good tool is http://tholman.com/other/transposition/

Other patterns could rearrange your text in a pyramid or a spiral. I have not yet solved this one myself, so I'm probably giving you too many options. It's the kind of thing which will look obvious after you have the answer. Good luck!

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Mike.s
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Good Luck

There goes 3 hours of my life... No luck though

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catherwood
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my apologies. When I grabbed that string and put it into my railfence tool, i included a trailing space which shifted the results. I was getting WLOCEME set apart at the end, and I was certain it would end up saying WELCOME. Sadly, I think this was a coincidence and not part of any solution. I have made no further progress.

Perhaps this is not really a hidden code? How were those letters found? If you are selecting them out of some bigger text, perhaps your method is not correct. Yes, it feels like there might be a message there, but again it could be just gibberish. Good puzzles have something to let you know you are on the right track.

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Mike.s
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That was a really good try though! As much as it kills me, i'll probably have to pass on this one.

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