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Who do you think is Hoody and post why.

Sarah
2%
 2%  [ 3 ]
Seth
13%
 13%  [ 17 ]
Brian
74%
 74%  [ 94 ]
Jessica
4%
 4%  [ 6 ]
Amy
3%
 3%  [ 5 ]
Sarah AND Seth. (Possible duo)
0%
 0%  [ 1 ]

Total Votes : 126
 

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gennerx
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 		Re: not again....
JAL13 wrote:
Geneaux486 wrote:
Miller wrote:
OOG the trio said they wouldn't use Time Travel.


They've used time travel at least twice already, which is why I think the future-Jay theory is a possibility. That would also explain all of the discrepancies you pointed out before that.


I mean if you consider moving forward in time from day to night, or night to day, "time traveling" then yes I believe that would be time traveling. Although, I've never once seen someone say that they went BACK in time instead of FORWARD. There has never been one instance where someone went back in time. By the logic of the series, Future Jay doesn't seem possible.


I think the biggest problem with it is it would be too much a M. Night Shyamalan style twist which the creators of MH have said they've always hated.

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 		Re: not again....
gennerx wrote:
JAL13 wrote:
Geneaux486 wrote:
Miller wrote:
OOG the trio said they wouldn't use Time Travel.


They've used time travel at least twice already, which is why I think the future-Jay theory is a possibility. That would also explain all of the discrepancies you pointed out before that.


I mean if you consider moving forward in time from day to night, or night to day, "time traveling" then yes I believe that would be time traveling. Although, I've never once seen someone say that they went BACK in time instead of FORWARD. There has never been one instance where someone went back in time. By the logic of the series, Future Jay doesn't seem possible.


I think the biggest problem with it is it would be too much a M. Night Shyamalan style twist which the creators of MH have said they've always hated.


And we all know how good M. Night is at making horror movies. (Ex: Devil) Cue sarcastic remarks on how good his twists are, and how he builds up to them so well.

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 		Re: not again....
JAL13 wrote:
And we all know how good M. Night is at making horror movies. (Ex: Devil) Cue sarcastic remarks on how good his twists are, and how he builds up to them so well.


I personally really enjoy M. Night Shyamalan's films, and no - that is not even slightly sarcastic. I genuinely think they're at least decent films, if not even more than decent Shocked

As for who Hoody is, I think it's Brian but I think I've been heavily influenced by lurking these forums for quite a while. I have a feeling it might be Amy too, but then again - it's really impossible to say at this point.

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 		If Hoody is Amy, then Amy sounds like a man.
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 		Here's one of my problems with the "Amy is Hoody" theory: the evidence we have seems to point to Hoody being TTA. That means that Hoody was around from the start, sending Jay cryptic clues in the form of short, mindfuck videos years before he (Hoody) appeared onscreen. Including the time where Alex was happily living his life with Amy. Why would Amy have been doing this before the events of #26? If TTA was the one responsible for that camera being in the house, why would Amy inflict that on herself? Why would she do that to Alex? Especially when he tried so hard to keep her from being involved in this? I mean, yeah, it would be a hell of a twist, but it would serve no purpose except to make people say "wow, that was a hell of a twist!".

Not to mention, Rosswood Town (where Amy and Jessica's house is) is very far from where Jay was living in season one. (I say that because in #27 Jay says he doesn't know the area he's in at all. It would have to be pretty far away for him to have never even driven past it on his way to someplace else). Surely Alex would have noticed his girlfriend's frequent, lengthy absences and asked questions.

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SilentMedusa wrote:
Here's one of my problems with the "Amy is Hoody" theory: the evidence we have seems to point to Hoody being TTA. That means that Hoody was around from the start, sending Jay cryptic clues in the form of short, mindfuck videos years before he (Hoody) appeared onscreen. Including the time where Alex was happily living his life with Amy. Why would Amy have been doing this before the events of #26? If TTA was the one responsible for that camera being in the house, why would Amy inflict that on herself? Why would she do that to Alex? Especially when he tried so hard to keep her from being involved in this? I mean, yeah, it would be a hell of a twist, but it would serve no purpose except to make people say "wow, that was a hell of a twist!".

Not to mention, Rosswood Town (where Amy and Jessica's house is) is very far from where Jay was living in season one. (I say that because in #27 Jay says he doesn't know the area he's in at all. It would have to be pretty far away for him to have never even driven past it on his way to someplace else). Surely Alex would have noticed his girlfriend's frequent, lengthy absences and asked questions.


Well, in my own personal version of the Amy as Hoody/TTA theory, Alex and Amy had their memories wiped of several months time, along the same lines as Jay and Jessica did in S2. According to my "TTA as Amy" timeline, Jay uploads Entry 1 and "re-activates" TO. Prior to this, he was dormant because Alex had hid the evidence of his existence back in 06 and escaped to be with Amy. After Entry 1 is uploaded, Entry 26 occurs and is filmed. They escape and Alex discovers the YouTube channel. Alex and Amy create TTA channel to try and stop Jay by scaring him off. This fails. They get progressively more aggressive, using Masky (Alex would be aware of Tim's pill's significance) and eventually burning down Jay's apartment, but he doesn't want to let it go. Finally, as it looks like Jay is gonna drop it and forget about it, TO decides he can't let this happen and so erases Alex and Amy's memories of their last few months stalking Jay. Amy gets teleported away, or wakes up first and flees, either way assuming Alex was up to something nefarious. Alex assumes she has been taken but can't remember anything, explaining his strange demeanor in S2. He sees the YouTube channel again when checking his footage and decides to enlist Jay's help - from his perspective now that his memory has been wiped, he and Jay have common goals, when just before he was trying to stop Jay from spreading TO's memory. He hooks Jay in with 26, loosely edited in Alex's/S1 TTA style, with the HELP and Operator symbol, and strange footage at the beginning.

Meanwhile, Amy has control over the TTA channel because she wrote the channel name and password down on something in her purse, a believable thing for a woman to do. Alex doesn't have access anymore because he trusted his memory with the TTA channel/password, probably because he made them up and had no reason to think he would or could forget. So now Amy doesn't remember why the channel was started in the first place but completely distrusts Alex, therefore sees Jay as being in possible danger collaborating with him, and therefore starts a campaign to help Jay and stop Alex. Thus S2 teaming up with Tim and so on. Explains the shift in tone between early TTA and later TTA. It explains a lot of the strange behavior and demeanor of the characters actually, from Alex's confusion and odd behavior in S2 to Hoody's insistence on hiding her identity (from Alex).

Obviously, people will bring up Entry 68 as a counter point to this, however I'd say that is simple to explain: Alex had already deduced or learnt by other means that Hoody was in fact Amy. He has put the puzzle pieces back together and realized this was all Jay's fault - either Alex is too far gone to care about Amy or Alex thinks Amy is far too gone sanity wise to help at the time, and thinks he can end it if he could just find Jay and Tim and stop them from continuing their investigation and YouTube posting.

There are a lot of badass parallels if this theory is accurate, for example Entry 26 and 52 were both filmed at the beginning of their respective seasons but were the finale, and both occurred before a massive memory wipe deleting the filmed events and those explaining them from memory forever, causing massive confusion and chaos for the characters involved. Alex dragged Amy into this similarly to Jay dragging in Jessica, in both instances leading to months of memory being deleted by TO so that he may enjoy additional subjects to torture or... Whatever it is he's trying to accomplish.

Oh also, Exit in this scenario could've been filmed by a jealous girlfriend (Amy) who stalked Alex to "scout locations" because she thought that might actually be code for "bang Sarah". After all, Amy was around back in 06 and Trosephim have been quite sure to make sure that detail was clear. She could've been doing a fair amount of Alex stalking in 06, accounting for TTA footage that seems otherwise impossible/unlikely to be filmed by someone involved in the production.

Anyway, I don't personally think Amy is TTA or Hoody, but I don't mind pointing out that it is quite plausible.

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Sha Noran wrote:
According to my "TTA as Amy" timeline, Jay uploads Entry 1 and "re-activates" TO. Prior to this, he was dormant because Alex had hid the evidence of his existence back in 06 and escaped to be with Amy. After Entry 1 is uploaded, Entry 26 occurs and is filmed. They escape and Alex discovers the YouTube channel. Alex and Amy create TTA channel to try and stop Jay by scaring him off.


This is definitely a fascinating theory, but the time line is off somewhere as far as I can understand. Entry #introduction is uploaded on 20th of June, TTA uploads first entry on 22nd of July - all of 2009.

If entry #26 took place after Jay uploads but before TTA was created/uploads, it would then be between 20th of June and 22nd of July - 2009. But the Entry #26 video has a time stamp that says 4th of April 2010. Would your theory then claim the time stamp is incorrect, or how does that fit to be between Entry #1 och first TTA video?

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Wondertje wrote:
Sha Noran wrote:
According to my "TTA as Amy" timeline, Jay uploads Entry 1 and "re-activates" TO. Prior to this, he was dormant because Alex had hid the evidence of his existence back in 06 and escaped to be with Amy. After Entry 1 is uploaded, Entry 26 occurs and is filmed. They escape and Alex discovers the YouTube channel. Alex and Amy create TTA channel to try and stop Jay by scaring him off.


This is definitely a fascinating theory, but the time line is off somewhere as far as I can understand. Entry #introduction is uploaded on 20th of June, TTA uploads first entry on 22nd of July - all of 2009.

If entry #26 took place after Jay uploads but before TTA was created/uploads, it would then be between 20th of June and 22nd of July - 2009. But the Entry #26 video has a time stamp that says 4th of April 2010. Would your theory then claim the time stamp is incorrect, or how does that fit to be between Entry #1 och first TTA video?


In theory, if Alex was capable of adding the HELP at the end, he would be capable of adding an erroneous timestamp to give the tape an additional false sense of urgency. This ensures he lures Jay back into action... Oh and the mild TTA scare tactic stuff at the beginning (skully right? Ha maybe it was Alex) he would both have access to and have motive to not edit out (further incentive for Jay to follow the lead - possible answers to the creepy YouTube channel run by a weirdy stalking him).

Also, this explains how Alex knew where Jay was to deliver the tape - Alex and Amy had already been stalking Jay all season as TTA. It is likely they were nearby Jay's hiding spot when they got memory wiped by TO and Amy fled. Alex wakes up, finds him nearby either coincidentally or through a note or clue in the immediate vicinity. Unsure of how to proceed, he continues following Jay and rewatches all of S1. Given Jay's stated concern for Alex's well-being, Alex deduces that he can gain Jay's trust, so he throws together the slightly TTA style tape that becomes Entry 26 and drops it on his doorstep. Jay takes the bait, and thus begins the lost 7 months.

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 		That could indeed be. Very interesting theory you've got going on! I never actually even thought of the idea that the time stamp might be incorrect, nor did I really give the whole TTA might be Amy so much thought.

It's mostly just a feeling at the moment because I've chosen not to dive into the question and look for answer/proof unless something drastically changes where I think it's of importance to know who TTA is Razz

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 		I don't know. It seems like an awfully convoluted explanation to get the result you want, (Amy being Hoody) to me.

But then, I feel the same way about "Hoody is future!Jay". It seems the evidence for that theory relies on confirmation bias.

Of course, since I hate both those theories I could well be blinded by my own biases Wink.

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 		Well in all realistic likelihood, Hoody is Brian. Amy and future!Jay are the most interesting prospects theory wise, so those are the other two I mostly consider, because if its someone we never met before (i.e. Jacob or w/e) I think its a boring cop out, and arguing between Seth and Brian is like a dog chasing its tail. And it definitely shouldn't be Sarah, Jessica, Tim or Alex. So Brian is the obvious choice, beyond that I just enjoy considering what a mind fuck it would be if it wound up being Amy or future!Jay.

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 		The only reason that Jacob was even discussed (as far as any discussion I witnessed, anyway) was because of the possibility (albeit with no evidence to support it whatsoever) that Jacob is an alias of a character we already know, such as Brian. I don't think anyone has actually considered the possibility that Hoody is Jacob and a total stranger. And you probably weren't actually referencing any real theory, so never mind that.

The main benefit I see to Hoody being Jacob is that it would make the Hoody Hut- a mysterious building connected to a mysterious character that keeps changing its location- "Jacob's Cabin".

Anyway, I fully agree with your post, but you neglected to mention the real obvious likelihood:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
TTA is Rocky.


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TheJoker wrote:
The only reason that Jacob was even discussed (as far as any discussion I witnessed, anyway) was because of the possibility (albeit with no evidence to support it whatsoever) that Jacob is an alias of a character we already know, such as Brian. I don't think anyone has actually considered the possibility that Hoody is Jacob and a total stranger. And you probably weren't actually referencing any real theory, so never mind that.

The main benefit I see to Hoody being Jacob is that it would make the Hoody Hut- a mysterious building connected to a mysterious character that keeps changing its location- "Jacob's Cabin".


I was just about to make a similar Lost joke, then read your post. Still, I feel ashamed the thought even crossed my mind, I thought I'd largely managed to bleach away that particular waste of time...
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TheJoker wrote:
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TTA is Rocky.


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
You're thinking of tothebark. That's who Rocky became.


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