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[Ithilwen22]

[zbeeblebrox]

[awakeasaurusrex]

A worrying thought occurs. The Order believes that as part of its grand plan a certain number of people need to be sacrificed in order to open up the dimensional rift and complete the Second Cycle - in particular, the Atlantic Test Site is meant to be one of the key sacrificial sites.

Now, we know that the Order dress up all of their stuff with a lot of ritual and ceremony because they have an essentially religious approach to all this. But what if the pomp and ceremony and chanting is unnecessary? After all, the Atlantic Test Site managed to weaken the barrier between dimensions through scientific means. What if the Order are dressing up what is basically a scientific phenomenon (if one which extends beyonds the borders of conventional scientific knowledge) in a load of religious paraphernalia that you can happily ditch to get the same results?

What if it doesn't matter how you kill someone at the Atlantic Test Site? What if simply killing people is enough, whether you blow their brains out ruthlessly and efficiently or sacrifice them in a fancy-pants ritual?

This latest entry happened at the Test Site. The gang just killed a whole bunch of people right where the Order needs people killed in order to usher in the Third Cycle. What if these killings have tipped the balance and opened the way to the Third Cycle?

(This may, for what it's worth, be why the Orderwas warned to beware the Harbingers but at the same time not kill them - as prophesised, Chris and Alex have become a serious danger to the Order's members, but at the same time if they had been killed this brace of sacrifices would never have happened...)

[knifebladepresents]

I believe the religious symbolism does have meaning of some kind. Think about KVDR, he uses symbolic stuff. And whoever took photos in Chris's room left Latin words, right?

I'm not sure how death would really work into the science, but I guess it works somehow in Tribe Twelve. I mean...what does Slendy even want with the Order? How did Slendy come into existence again?

[Foxhound2016]

[awakeasaurusrex]

[knifebladepresents]

OK, personally, I'd like to see a lot of the Order's way have meaning, but you do have a good point. Heck, a lot of it might be cult-baloney, but I do think the portal functions the way its supposed to be.

If the Order was false about a lot of stuff, and Slendy keeps them around because he likes the worship, but generally doesn't care about them; they feel like to me more as bloodthirsty idiots rather than the real deal...I mean, if a lot of this religious baloney is fake, why do they invest so much time in it in the first place?

Cults are weird. Guess we'll have to wait and see what happens next.

[awakeasaurusrex]

Well, exactly how delusional the Order is has been a recurring theme for a long time - remember, when Heather defected she said she believed that Slendy was just some otherdimensional monster, not the god the Order believes him to be.

[RedSoul78]

[SilentMedusa]

That's how a lot of cults work. The leader(s) and maybe a few lieutenants know what's really going on, but the rank and file members are true believers.

Now, I just watched this latest log. I'm a little concerned about Heather's lack of reaction to what Chris and Alex just did. Wouldn't she at least be a little worried that they'd do the same thing to her if they get paranoid enough to think she's secretly feeding info to the Order? And speaking of reactions, Alex didn't seem to be having much of one, either.

[Carmen]

[AssassinB]

[knifebladepresents]

Alex was in "survivor" mode--the only reason he was really upset is that his family was dead, and now that he found out someone killed his family...

Note how different Alex and Chris's reactions are when they shoot the cultists. Chris feels guilty that he killed a guy, while Alex doesn't seem to care at all. Chris now is an emotional wreck, Alex is angry, and Heather is trying to keep the two boys sane.

[AssassinB]

I would just like to bring up the point that morals no longer factor into this in my opinion. Even though all those cultists were defenseless, they're still lying psychopathic murderers. Matt very well could have been lying up until his final breath out of loyalty to the cult, he might have felt that he could have been rushed to a hospital if he gained enough sympathy, and if he did then he would get off scott free and report the incident to his superiors.

Instead, I think Chris and Alex made the right move by offing him, no chances can be taken at this point when even the guy who is getting you fake identities and holding you in a safe house is part of the very cult you're running from. Also, this sends a "no bullshit" message to the cult. You fuck with the boys, they kill you out of self defense.

[SilentMedusa]

You know, this made me ponder a bit about why we haven't seen the protagonists of other Slendervlogs, go this far yet. At first I thought that maybe the other guys (like Noah, or Vinnie) were a little more collected than than Chris and Alex. But then I had a thought: maybe the reason we've only seen Chris and Alex go so far as to start essentially making preemptive strikes is because they're the only ones with a clear, tangible enemy to go after.