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[Wondertje]

I would like to add that TO is in fact never a mannequin. According to Troseph they don't own a mannequin because they are, and I'm paraphrasing, "freaking expensive!". So, it's either a human standing very still, or something else that isn't a mannequin playing TO.

At least this was the case for season 1 and as far as I know, also season 2.

[ToTheFading]

Whilst that's good to know, what I meant was that it's not anything about how he's actually acted (human, mannequin or otherwise) that's sticking out to me a little, but rather something about him just seeming generally sloppily done - I have no idea what it is that seems different to me, and it's probable it's entirely in my head and not anything with the series at all...

P.S. I hope this didn't read as hostile - when I read it back it seemed like it might.

[TheOperator]

[Wondertje]

@ToTheFading - No hostility that I could read, and I do understand sort of what you mean. There's a (in my opinion) slight difference from earlier seasons, but it's not really anything that bothers me. Personally it makes quite a lot of sense to me. How I see it is that as the characters get closer to solving the mystery/the end, TO is also bound to be a bit more pulled back I think. Or more aggressive as they get too close.

@TheOperator - That's a valid point, it might indeed be the case for later seasons/episodes.

[TheJoker]

Worth noting, of course, that just because it's not a mannequin doesn't mean it has to be a person- it could just be another inanimate prop that isn't *technically* an actual mannequin.

Though in the cases of entries where TO's showing more motion, it likely is a person in a suit.

[Lithp]

Have to say some things about the much vaunted & controversial Entry #83:

[sickie]

[TheJoker]

...What's MB?

[Gold Knight]

[Lithp]

Hm. You know, I don't mind the distortions, but I can see that argument. It helps that I don't know jack about how cameras work. I would say that it depends on what the distortion actually IS. If it's just making the camera malfunction, then the unrealistic argument certainly applies. If The Operator somehow creates a window through time, then the superimposed images might be legitimate. Other than that, I basically agree. if you want to hold out Hoody's identity, okay, fine, but give us some other secrets to tide us over, otherwise it's just stalling.

[TheJoker]

Yeah, I thought, since they're getting teleported all over the place, that the superimposed images were not so much a camera effect as a result of the teleportation itself- that is, even the people present (Tim and Hoody) might have been seeing things that way as they got warped from one place to another.

[Geneaux486]

[evanx275h]

Well, using the argument that the superimposed images are a result of the Operator's influence on time/space/whatever, maybe it can be assumed that the Operator is trying to hide Hoody's identity by causing the distortion in the most "convenient" of times.

It's sort of backed up when he tries for the second attempt and the Operator shows up like "oh, nonono, don't do that please".

It's a longshot (as I don't see why Hoody's identity is super important; unless he himself is a result of messing with time - Future!Jay theorists might enjoy that, I myself am neutral), but I can see it as a possibility if we're really going to apply some form of logic to this.

[TheJoker]

Maybe Hoody isn't future Jay. Maybe Hoody is... past Operator!

Or maybe Hoody has somehow seized control of TO (though if he did it's probably a very recent development.)

[sickie]

Ha! MB would be, for me at least, Mount and Blade (a video game) but of course I meant MH as in Marble Hornets.
While even if superimposed images would represent teleporting through space and time it's still not realistic - one can't be in two points in time and space at the same time (when you're teleporting, we are not talking about parallel universes and such nonsense); one moment you're her and the next moment you're there, without a window of time of a few seconds being on both points. But OK, that wouldn't bother me that much, what bothers me are superimposed images in regular distortions that started sometime in 70+ Entries while really fake distortions (not necessarily with those superimposed images) started in Entry 71.
But anyway look at Entry #65 again and you'll see that they already have done a (in my view) decent time/space teleporting video. But that's just me, a guy who always appreciated quite realistic editing in MH (and not MB, ) and knows quite well the principles of digital technology. From an artistic point of view Entry #83 is phenomenal.