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[VIDEO] Entry #83
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Cobrastardust
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JAL13 wrote:
Real quick guys,

Like the Pokemon this may be Far Fetched, but has anyone ever thought that Alex was the good guy the entire time and tried to kill off everyone he thought was against him making it seem like he was the bad guy? Paranoia can get to people and even drive them crazy. It would make sense why he would spare Jay at first until he got involve and "made everything worse." Alex knows who Hoody is and he knows Tim was Masky.

Hoody's actions in #83 made me really question this. Also, Tim seems to be rejecting Hoody after having partnered up with him before. Maybe Tim is hiding something from all of us as to Hoody's motives and a way to end it all.


I agree with Tim hiding something as I said in my privious post maybe Tim knows what and where the ark is but is hiding it from all. So the notes "your Fault" "Give Up" and "The Ark" is telling Tim to give up the ark. But hoodie and TO both want it and both don't want the other to get it.

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TheJoker
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Just to clear things up- no one since I've been here has ever been able to find a legit source for them saying that we shouldn't rely on build for Hoody's identity. What they did say in the commentary on S2 that most people like to cite was that in that behind-the-scenes footage for Entry 45, Troy was standing in for Hoody's actor, and what they said actually seemed to indicate that in Entry 45, Hoody's real actor was used. (There may have been another commentary where they confirmed that in a certain entry Hoody was played by one of the trio, but again, they did not indicate whether this was a regular occurrence, nor claim that we "shouldn't analyze body build".)

Now admittedly, it's a pretty fair assumption that Hoody may have been played by multiple actors, since his build and manner of walking and etc. aren't always 100% consistent and since it would probably make things a lot easier to film if they had someone stand in at times. Indeed, I would agree that we shouldn't go off of build anyway. But to assume, as some here do, that Hoody is always or even mostly played by one of the trio is rather baseless, and even if he is often played by a stand-in, there is not, in fact, any OOG source to confirm this.

Now if I am mistaken and there is indeed a source where they said that which is so frequently cited here, PLEASE PROVIDE IT. (And if it's on the DVD, please at least provide a rough transcription and where on the DVD it is- I, for one, would then believe it unless given some significant reason to doubt you or unless your name is Hermann.)

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For that matter, if anyone wants to continue to argue about who's playing him in which entry and which entries contain the "real" Hoody, we could always start a thread dedicated to build analysis- ideally with images to go along with it. Obviously, regardless of the existence of the aforementioned Trosephim statement, we can't use build analysis as gospel truth, but with the current release schedule, it's not like we have tons better to do, and it could yield something interesting even if not concrete.


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JAL13
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TheJoker wrote:


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For that matter, if anyone wants to continue to argue about who's playing him in which entry and which entries contain the "real" Hoody, we could always start a thread dedicated to build analysis- ideally with images to go along with it. Obviously, regardless of the existence of the aforementioned Trosephim statement, we can't use build analysis as gospel truth, but with the current release schedule, it's not like we have tons better to do, and it could yield something interesting even if not concrete.


I think i'm more worried about never finding out who Hoody is rather than argue about it until people say i'm right. If they never reveal his identity then i'll be anger than all hell. This past entry gave me that anxiety.

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KTsteve
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JAL13 wrote:
TheJoker wrote:


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For that matter, if anyone wants to continue to argue about who's playing him in which entry and which entries contain the "real" Hoody, we could always start a thread dedicated to build analysis- ideally with images to go along with it. Obviously, regardless of the existence of the aforementioned Trosephim statement, we can't use build analysis as gospel truth, but with the current release schedule, it's not like we have tons better to do, and it could yield something interesting even if not concrete.


I think i'm more worried about never finding out who Hoody is rather than argue about it until people say i'm right. If they never reveal his identity then i'll be anger than all hell. This past entry gave me that anxiety.


Honestly it could be fun to do an oog analysis on when hoody is played by the appropriate actor. However we won't be able to until after the reveal.

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The7kproductions
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On the topic of "you can't use body analysis to determine whether of who it is therefore Hoody could very well be female" I would have to conclude that you are in fact a complete and total idiot-cake if you go by this logic.First off no one has every brought up the source of where Trosephim said absolutely no body analysis at all.Secondly even if this was said there is diference between
the body type of an actor and character design.From looking at his character design we know that:
1.he wears a hoody

2.he wears a mask with a frown on it

3.he is male

Are you saying that those argument that Seth could be Hoody because the video of him in the basement had that frowny face at the end that looked almost exactly like the mask are invalid because it is some what based on Hoodies appearance?

My third point would have to be that while you would have to study the shape of the body in very specific areas to decern which actor it is like comparing the size and shape of the head, proportions of limb to body,and
girth. This process can be dificult at times looking at the perfect spot to pause and observe the body type in comparison to all of the possible people it could be.Now on the hand if you can't tell whether or not Hoody
male or female after looking at him/(no wait yeah him) for about half second you have something wrong with you because our brains are made to identify the gender of some one almost instantly.

Im not saying that they wouldn't reveal that Hoody was a feamale character this whole time because they could literally do any thing,
but if it turned out this way it would be a twist just for the sake of a twist
(because Hoody IS male) and you know what Joseph said about those.

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catgirl789
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Just wanted to add my two cents about Hoody climbing out the window. Maybe when Hoody started climbing out, the window was on the ground floor and jumping out of it would be more like stepping out of it. Add in some Oppy teleportation and wham, suddenly you're 10 feet above the ground.

This is similar to other theories out there, but is just my way of reconciling the "Hoody climbed out of the window voluntarily" and the "Operator teleported Hoody" theories.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:22 pm
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Animal
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Just a reminder

It's been hinted many times before that TTA is not 1 person but a collection of people. I still expect to see another TTA video before its all said and done

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:44 pm
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3tp
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Re: Just a reminder

Animal wrote:
It's been hinted many times before that TTA is not 1 person but a collection of people. I still expect to see another TTA video before its all said and done

maybe jay could be one of the members of totheark now or something, but that probably will never be true, will it?

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SonicN2O
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So is it confirmed that Jay is dead?

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Ristar
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SonicN2O wrote:
So is it confirmed that Jay is dead?


Yea, i believe so, but again there has been evidence of people revived in TO's universe (i.e: Bruce), i expect Jay to be part of TTA now.

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onetruepurple
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Ristar wrote:
Yea, i believe so, but again there has been evidence of people revived in TO's universe (i.e: Bruce)

What are you even talking about?

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JAL13
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onetruepurple wrote:
Ristar wrote:
Yea, i believe so, but again there has been evidence of people revived in TO's universe (i.e: Bruce)

What are you even talking about?


Who has been revived lol? Bruce was still dead when Tim saw him.


Please don't bring Future!Jay back into the seriousness of things.

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3tp
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Ristar wrote:
SonicN2O wrote:
So is it confirmed that Jay is dead?


Yea, i believe so, but again there has been evidence of people revived in TO's universe (i.e: Bruce), i expect Jay to be part of TTA now.

yeah im with the theory that jay could be part of tta now. if there is a new masked person, it could be jay.

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awakeasaurusrex
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JAL13 wrote:
Who has been revived lol? Bruce was still dead when Tim saw him.

This. There's no reason to believe that Bruce is still alive other than his mysteriously well-preserved condition, which can be explained by (IG) decay not working the same way with people the Operator has collected and (OOG) by the fact that the team don't exactly have the budget to make him up to look like a rotting corpse whilst simultaneously making him look Bruce-y enough that people would understand that it was meant to be Bruce.

As far as Jay goes: signs are very, very bad. In particular, his wound shows no sign of treatment but at the same time he appears to have stopped bleeding (there's a trickle of blood on the papers but it and the blood on his clothes looks like it's tried). That strongly implies that his heart has stopped beating. (He also presumably looked dead enough to Tim to convince him to keep going after the Hoodster rather than trying to do first aid on Jay.)

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Tharol
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If someone walking in finds him on video.

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