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Why did The Operator visit Tim as a child?
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SilentMedusa
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 		Glad you liked it Wink.

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Sha Noran
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SilentMedusa wrote:
Glad you liked it Wink.


I really liked it too man! You tend to have quality, thought out theories.

I particularly like your comparison to Silent Hill. I don't think its EXACTLY the same but I think this is what's going on, kind of. And the theory that Tim manifested, and that sometimes, in that alternate reality, you can manifest bad things... i.e. dead Jay in Tim's house in 83 (WTF?) makes sense. Also how and why it is Tim's fault. I'm sure it will never be properly confirmed (no TO origin story) but I have a feeling you're basically right.

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 		So this got me thinking about the medical records. The slenderdoll was with the records. The doll also appears a lot of Tim-related times, like the time Jay finds it in Brian's house and Masky shows up. So maybe the doll was a "Tell me where he touched you" doll, and the Operator was accused. The theory kind of spreads thin here, but what if the police did that thing that Alex was talking about, "put on trial with god" by being tied to the tree and set on fire? I know it was in 1995, so that kind of disproves it, but maybe there's just something I'm not realizing.

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lonsumtravlr
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veronica2199 wrote:
So this got me thinking about the medical records. The slenderdoll was with the records. The doll also appears a lot of Tim-related times, like the time Jay finds it in Brian's house and Masky shows up. So maybe the doll was a "Tell me where he touched you" doll, and the Operator was accused. The theory kind of spreads thin here, but what if the police did that thing that Alex was talking about, "put on trial with god" by being tied to the tree and set on fire? I know it was in 1995, so that kind of disproves it, but maybe there's just something I'm not realizing.


Not a bad theory (though I think you need to flesh it out a bit--what "police" were involved, for example?), but I've always seen the "trial before God" in the forest, all the stuff about trees in general, the thing about the kid being disemboweled and strung up in the tree, the dead animals on Brian's lawn, and a few other things (Jessica having the dream of being a child in the forest, I think it was?) not so much as actual facts IG but Trosephim's tip of the hat to the original Slenderman myth. I know that TO isn't really Slendy, but he's obviously inspired by him. They're doing a creative interpretation by sampling and riffing off of the original while making it something entirely new and original (sort of like Bob Dylan recalling earlier songs and themes to make his own new, original creation). It's the Folk Matrix. Ironically, what they've done has actually influenced canon.

But I do like the thought of the Slendydoll being some sort of... what's the word... indicator and also therapeutic device? (Also, it may have some sort of talismanic property, so it might be used by TO's victims rather than have some sort of significance to TO? Would explain much of the end of Entry #60, teleportation or no.)

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lonsumtravlr wrote:
I do like the thought of the Slendydoll being some sort of... what's the word... indicator and also therapeutic device? (Also, it may have some sort of talismanic property, so it mi ght be used by TO's victims rather than have some sort of significance to TO? Would explain much of the end of Entry #60, teleportation or no.)

The doll seems to be a warning indicator,like when Jay finds it before Masky attacks, in the house when time seems to go faster, and in the tunnel before TO nope'd Jay right out of there. Maybe someone protecting Jay puts it there as a subtle warning so the attacker doesn't notice it.

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veronica2199 wrote:
The doll seems to be a warning indicator,like when Jay finds it before Masky attacks, in the house when time seems to go faster, and in the tunnel before TO nope'd Jay right out of there. Maybe someone protecting Jay puts it there as a subtle warning so the attacker doesn't notice it.


Yes, but in the house it seems to be pointing Jay a particular way. What's unclear is what Masky's doing there--is he trying to lead Jay a certain way, and is it the wrong way (toward TO)?
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He leaves the mask on the doorknob, and when Jay goes for it, he teleports to the basement, at which point he encounters TO. Did he reach for it too late? Was the mask a warning? (But then why would Masky leave a warning for Jay when he may have been the one who took Jay to the house, where in the one TTA video he sat in a trance and TO passed right by him--or was that an initiation?) Was it just an indication of what was coming? It's so weird.


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 		I like SilentMedusa's ideas here-Especially that #37 was edited to insert TO into it and Tim generated TO into creation. Maybe his mental problems are so acute he can bring fears to real life such as TO. Remember the original "story" of TO is the bad man who abducts kids in the woods...Maybe he heard it in the hospital as a small kid while at the hospital-in the woods...And there ya go..

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sp103 wrote:
I like SilentMedusa's ideas here-Especially that #37 was edited to insert TO into it and Tim generated TO into creation. Maybe his mental problems are so acute he can bring fears to real life such as TO. Remember the original "story" of TO is the bad man who abducts kids in the woods...Maybe he heard it in the hospital as a small kid while at the hospital-in the woods...And there ya go..


In game that's a good theory.
Out of game the creators said they weren't going to give TO an origin story.

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 		Right, but that wouldn't affect the tape of Enttry #37 being edited and fabricated, though. I think SilentMedusa's right about that.

I also think that Entry #76 was heavily edited, though I don't know whether it was done by totheark. The appearance of The Operator when Jessica disappears and is supposedly abducted by him is very different than that when Bruce and then Troy get abducted by him. He's not shown as being present, but there's a negative of the frames of his appearance before Jessica in the woods. But also, why was there a camera there? And who filmed it? It's almost as if whoever made it was trying to implicate Tim in Jessica's disappearance (more than he already is implicated by taking her from her hotel room out to the woods while Masky).

Apologies if that belongs on the Entry #76 thread or somewhere else, but it's this thread that has me thinking about this. Entry #76 seems about as fabricated as Enttry #37 is, and the purpose isn't at all clear.

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