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[VIDEO] Entry #84
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gazza
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Marble Hornets wrote:


Hush child, the adults are speaking.

Have to admit I did laugh at Alex just flatout lying through his teeth when he told Brian "there's competition". Like the empty notepad didn't make things obvious.

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Marble Hornets wrote:
MC_Loki wrote:
Marble Hornets wrote:
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No, that is not a solid confirmation. That could easily be a red herring.
hah yeah no. its confirmed man, probably not to your satisfaction but it is.


Nice rebuttal. That's how 4 year olds argue.


Occam's Razor applies here.

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It's clear we're getting down to the last entries (three, tops). It's too late for them to be pulling something like that.


If this is truly how they are going to reveal that Brian is Hoody, then people's lack of anger at a cheap reveal like that surprises me. As someone who has followed this for 5 years, that is not a suitable way to reveal something.


Also, this isn't the first time someone asked Alex who wrote the lines. I think Tim asked him in one of the season 1 entries too.


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I personally think they fumbled the whole reveal, with the previous entry's gratuitous teases followed up with how they handled this here, but this isn't the entry quality thread.

Furthermore, Brian being Hoody is the only logical choice. Time Travelling Jay made absolutely no sense, and Sarah was a disposable character. Let us not forget Tim and Brian's previous friendship.


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From a narrative perspective, this is acting as a downbeat before the climax. It's giving us a chance to go back, look at things with this new information, then they'll launch into the finale and denouement. This was the last "major" plot thread that was yet to resolved before Ye Olde Showdown and the end is very friggin' nigh. Say what you want on an individual entry or smaller arch basis, but these guys are decent writers and won't drag a red herring trope into it this late.

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MC_Loki wrote:
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I personally think they fumbled the whole reveal, with the previous entry's gratuitous teases followed up with how they handled this here, but this isn't the entry quality thread.


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I kind of agree with you, but that's because three attempts at unmasking Hoody were one too many. The first one with the blue flare where his face was--you could argue it away, I guess, with the emotions and multiple perspectives caught on the chest cam (that maybe Tim's memory was immediately wiped or that someone's desire that Tim not learn Hoody's identity was somehow recorded), but that was cheap--even though I didn't hear the motorcycle revving up to jump the shark tank. The other two made sense, but they were dragged out. I still think Entry #84 was a quality entry overall. They're very good writers. In some instances they're even great writers. Then there's Entry #66, which was not so much.


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 		Poor Alex. Nobody came to the audition like he was hoping. Brian coming was like a "poor guy, let me just audition for his movie. Make him happy"

Last entry lacked an Alex. This entry lacked a Jay.
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 		Alex didn't even have the script panned out if he didn't have a name for the character yet. And since Sara's name was also Sara it seemed like he just named people right off the spot that came to his audition.

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It would be more of a freakout to know that this was all a set-up (a Shylaman WHAT A TWIST film-in-a-film) or maybe a ("I'm Alex! This Slenderman is real and I'm collecting all of you!!!) <<<WHICH WOULD BE A FUCKING TERRIFYING TWIST SEEING JUST ALEX FILMING ALL OF HIS FRIENDS GETTING CAUGHT FOR HIS SICK SNUFF PLEASURE. But as much irrelevant that sounds I'm sure that it's not just a giant Alex is Slenderman's Mr. Slave doing this. But hearing the dialogue said in the script, it's as if Brian/Hoody knew about the "magic" and "The secrets" in the TTA videos. But that was all before, though. It's like Broody was pretty much hinting that he was going to die and that Tim should know who he was.


edit: I'm intoxicated watching MH from the beginning so bare with me please, haha.

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 		edit: Sorry for Repost. But on the youtube video:

COMMENTS HAVE BEEN DISABLED!!!! ENTRY 84 IS REAL!

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 		As per usual I stopped reading the thread when Marble Hornets got on.

Skipping ahead to give my consensus:
This Entry was phenomenal! I realize that it's not absolutely proven (as with a series like this it can't be, until it's either flat-out said by the creators or if the character in question says it himself), but I'm perfectly fine with Brian being Hoody, and this reveal was perfectly done, IMO.

I would actually rather this than some huge action-packed Entry like 83 in terms of Hoody's unmasking; this is much more subtle, and just feels more like a Season 1 Entry. Well done.

Can't wait for the next Entry!
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 		Well that was, different. I hope Tim or Alex talk about it more in the next episode.

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 		Alex's Marble Hornets probably becomes a horror story in the script itself at some point. The cast of Alex's project have their heads stuck in the script somehow, forced to portray their characters instead of their actual selves. This is what Tim's lie is. His personality and those sideburns are just a part of his character. All imagined by Alex. The Operator might have been the main antagonist of his film, this is why everyone was pursued by him. Hoody might have been trying to resist Alex's story by trying to kill him. The TTA channel was created out of defiance of Alex's game. It's not a film within a film. Alex's script is alive and terrorizing everyone. ...Nah. I should probably just cling onto the most popular pre-existing theory.

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Corte wrote:
Alex's Marble Hornets probably becomes a horror story in the script itself at some point. The cast of Alex's project have their heads stuck in the script somehow, forced to portray their characters instead of their actual selves. This is what Tim's lie is. His personality and those sideburns are just a part of his character. All imagined by Alex. The Operator might have been the main antagonist of his film, this is why everyone was pursued by him. Hoody might have been trying to resist Alex's story by trying to kill him. The TTA channel was created out of defiance of Alex's game. It's not a film within a film. Alex's script is alive and terrorizing everyone. ...Nah. I should probably just cling onto the most popular pre-existing theory.


The theory is there, right? It's not that it's a horror story. Maybe Slenderman is alive and this could be Alex's sick game or maybe it is just a horror story.

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 		So, I've yet to hear any comments about what this means in relation to say... 68? 68 vs 51? Was Brian just crazy as shit, or did he have a master plan?

Did Brian wear the Hoody and carry the tape so he would have a link to his identity in case of full memory loss? I wish we had a better idea of how crazy Brian was. Im personally hoping for a TTA vid next, revealing Seth was involved too, but if there is never another TTA then I suppose we can use them as evidence that Brian was crazy as shit.

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Sha Noran wrote:
Was Brian just crazy as shit, or did he have a master plan?


My guess is "Yes." He progressively became crazy (or started crazy because of the trauma of whatever happened with TO originally and then became crazier) and devised some sort of "master plan" that he was trying to unfold, and if anything happened that wasn't in the plan yet brought everything to the culmination of the plan's goal (maybe Alex freeing himself and shooting Jay, for example?), that's just as good.

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Sha Noran wrote:
So, I've yet to hear any comments about what this means in relation to say... 68? 68 vs 51? Was Brian just crazy as shit, or did he have a master plan?

Did Brian wear the Hoody and carry the tape so he would have a link to his identity in case of full memory loss? I wish we had a better idea of how crazy Brian was. Im personally hoping for a TTA vid next, revealing Seth was involved too, but if there is never another TTA then I suppose we can use them as evidence that Brian was crazy as shit.


So far it's been two things. Brian was crazy since he met Tim and Tim has always been crazy (Because of T.O), however Alex's birthday video when he was a child has T.O in it and that's where it lies confusion. Brian's house was wrecked long after this tape. We found one closet with a bed that we believe Masky was sleeping in since he was found there. But what lead to it? Was Brian the first to become inflicted with the Slendysickness? It already seems that Alex's casting didn't go so well since Sara and Seth were the only other cast members we've seen. Amy being his gf years after and missing since God knows how long. We have to keep our heads in the oblivion.

The other thing is that this video opts another theory that this could have been Alex's idea all along. Turning the story into a horror film where lies in Brian and Tim rebelling about it (hence TTA) only the stakes are higher because there is an actual real entity here helping him do all of this.

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 		masks theory
First of all loved this entry so many anwsers as well as new things to think about. But the thing that I was thinking about was the idea of charecters matching the people and the masks/hood. My theory is that hiding face/ identity somehow tore you away from it all. So hoodie wore his mask to hide from OP or Alex. And that's why he wanted tim to wear the mask. Maybe maskie is real tim. And when he has mask off somehow OP is able to influence him. That's why they mentioned the conection of charecters to the people. I know its kindof out there theory feel free to pick it apart.

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itookthesquare wrote:
So far it's been two things. Brian was crazy since he met Tim and Tim has always been crazy (Because of T.O), however Alex's birthday video when he was a child has T.O in it and that's where it lies confusion. Brian's house was wrecked long after this tape. We found one closet with a bed that we believe Masky was sleeping in since he was found there. But what lead to it? Was Brian the first to become inflicted with the Slendysickness? It already seems that Alex's casting didn't go so well since Sara and Seth were the only other cast members we've seen. Amy being his gf years after and missing since God knows how long. We have to keep our heads in the oblivion.


That's a good point: Who wrecked Brian's house? Or did Brian and Tim just, for lack of better terms, sink into "crazy"?

Enttry #37 is even stranger, because TO is clearly (at least to me and to many other posters) edited into that tape as if to cast suspicion upon Alex for having some early relationship with him. If Tim was likely the first of the MH crew to be stalked by TO and Brian was brought into something unfolding thanks to Alex's movie project, then what would be the motive to make Alex appear to have been marked by TO so much earlier? Or did it make sense for Brian (and Tim?) to do so during Season 2 but then after Tim started getting better, did revealing Tim's medical history somehow make sense to Brian?


Seems to make Entry #84 less trustworthy then... somehow... because something's still not adding up. Only four more entries at most, likely. How will any of these ends get tied up? I realize not all of them will, can, or even should.

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