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maddielyne wrote:
Oh man, in that facebook picture Tim has no sideburns, indicating this the encounter of Alex, Tim, and Brian was filmed recently. Brian also looks much older, so I was leaning towards thinking that as well.

I definitely think this was the first OP capture by Alex, and that it was because of his interaction with Tim. I also agree with the way this developed the relationship between Tim and Brian, with the latter being more dominant and that being exaggerated later.


How can you tell? Tim's the one holding the boom mic and you can't see the side of his face.

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Alex: "Full name?"
Brian: "That is my full name."

Is that joke by Brian the prototype of the TTA style? Not saying things, just because. Staying mysterious?

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twistedpuppet wrote:
maddielyne wrote:
Oh man, in that facebook picture Tim has no sideburns, indicating this the encounter of Alex, Tim, and Brian was filmed recently. Brian also looks much older, so I was leaning towards thinking that as well.

I definitely think this was the first OP capture by Alex, and that it was because of his interaction with Tim. I also agree with the way this developed the relationship between Tim and Brian, with the latter being more dominant and that being exaggerated later.


How can you tell? Tim's the one holding the boom mic and you can't see the side of his face.


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Well, Troy recently posted a picture on his twitter account of Tim imitating an album cover featuring Bear Bryant and he is without sideburns in that picture.


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ALSO IN 73 PEOPLE WERE WONDERING WHAT THE LUMP IN HOODYS BACKPOCKET. IT WAS THE TAPE. HE KEPT IT ON HIM AT ALL TIMES

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TheManPF wrote:
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they're the memories that TO has "consumed" and torments his victims with the fact that HE has them and they don't. That's he's in their head.


I was gonna say bullshit but this kind of explains a few things, like why we could see the hospital on fire in #83, TO was recreating Tim's memories

Also, about Brian defending Tim, anyone remebers Advocate?


Or they're Tim's own memories being projected outward and consumed by the camera.

I'm a bit unclear about your point about Advocate. Are you saying that this is Brian defending Tim or Brian saying something about Tim's character, which would sort of be the opposite?

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Other evidence proving it to really be Brian is the stock footage before Alex encounters TO:

The car lights/street lights are recorded long enough that Hoody used this footage to create the glowing eye effects in a few of his TTA postings.

As for Tim bringing TO to everyone, didn't Alex's birthday footage as a kid show TO hanging out with him already?

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twistedpuppet wrote:
maddielyne wrote:
Oh man, in that facebook picture Tim has no sideburns, indicating this the encounter of Alex, Tim, and Brian was filmed recently. Brian also looks much older, so I was leaning towards thinking that as well.

I definitely think this was the first OP capture by Alex, and that it was because of his interaction with Tim. I also agree with the way this developed the relationship between Tim and Brian, with the latter being more dominant and that being exaggerated later.


How can you tell? Tim's the one holding the boom mic and you can't see the side of his face.


My bad, I thought Tim was the one in the white shirt. I thought he looked a little off. But yes, the twitter feed confirms it, I think.

Also, I wonder how Hoody IG would have gotten this tape. It was Alex's after all. Why wouldn't it be with the tapes given to Jay? I suppose he simply could have stolen it, but it would be interesting to know when.
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Mr. J wrote:
Other evidence proving it to really be Brian is the stock footage before Alex encounters TO:

The car lights/street lights are recorded long enough that Hoody used this footage to create the glowing eye effects in a few of his TTA postings.

As for Tim bringing TO to everyone, didn't Alex's birthday footage as a kid show TO hanging out with him already?


It's possible that Hoody simply edited that footage, or it was warped by the operator when he appeared ~2006. I'm leaning towards the former, since the operator symbol flashing on the screen seems to happen exclusively in TTA videos (unless I've forgotten about this occurring in other videos).

maddielyne wrote:
Also, I wonder how Hoody IG would have gotten this tape. It was Alex's after all. Why wouldn't it be with the tapes given to Jay? I suppose he simply could have stolen it, but it would be interesting to know when.


TTA/Hoody has been known to loiter around the film set since Exit (Entry #13). Combine that with Jay's habit of often not locking his car, and it wouldn't be too hard for him to get access to the tapes (remember Advocate also contained new footage).

On the other hand I think it's more likely that Hoody stole them from Alex. Jay never mentioned losing tapes while filming, and Alex was the one that had all the tapes when Jay requested them in Entry #71.

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This ties in well with the whole "this is Tim's fault entirely" theory.

IF this is the first Operator encounter chronologically by Alex, and IF this is technically the earliest Entry chronologically as well, then it does fit.

Tim looks like such a shut-in kind of dude in this Entry; he's so withdrawn, denying wanting to partake in the audition and looking pained when he finally succumbed to Brian's pestering. He actually sounded freakin' timid! Like he had no idea what he was supposed to do or say to this otherwise harmless Alex. Hell, he even said that Brian was one of his only friends.

That said, it almost seems to make sense; he distances himself from people for the most part because, according to his medical history and his own word-of-mouth, he experienced hallucinations in the past, hallucinations that Jay and Alex would possibly experience in the future... and also aren't hallucinations. This Entry possibly shows Alex's first encounter with the Operator, triggered by him first meeting Tim.

Sidenote:
Alex seems almost pathetic in this Entry, trying to do this movie and having no luck at finding people that care enough; he sort of acts detached when people ask him to hang out, and likely has a list that now has 2 names on it for the film. So, in steps the Operator, and he finds himself a fucking creepy little friend. They almost seem to work together after that... There's not enough evidence to back it up, but I love the idea that the reason why he constantly sought after the Operator in the early portions of MH shooting (Entry #70, Entry #2, Entry #11, possibly) was because he was a messed up dude that wanted companionship.

It's a bit of a stretch, but whatever, we theorize here.
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evanx275h wrote:

Alex seems almost pathetic in this Entry, trying to do this movie and having no luck at finding people that care enough; he sort of acts detached when people ask him to hang out, and likely has a list that now has 2 names on it for the film. So, in steps the Operator, and he finds himself a fucking creepy little friend. They almost seem to work together after that... There's not enough evidence to back it up, but I love the idea that the reason why he constantly sought after the Operator in the early portions of MH shooting (Entry #70, Entry #2, Entry #11, possibly) was because he was a messed up dude that wanted companionship.

It's a bit of a stretch, but whatever, we theorize here.


While this sounds totally wrong, it actually kinda fits. Just a couple of days ago someone brought up that Tim in #67 said that maybe he did not want the „hallucinations" to leave at that time. So, while TO was frightening him, it somehow gave Tim … something. And now a similar thing happens to Alex. Frustrated and a bit lonely, he both feared but also … needs … TO.
It could easily be absolute bullshit, but at least we would have a pattern in behaviour. We now only need to find out what Jay's problem was, and then fit Broody into the picture. ^^

(Since I failed to mentioned it earlier because I was expressing my frustration with some aspects of the entry, the scene from 02:26 to 02:42 is pure gold in my opinion. The THAC guys often criticize their own acting skills, but in this scene, Alex is delivering such a good performance. How he expresses so much hope without looking to the camera, listening whether the steps will come to him, and the complete despair once he realizes that the person does not want to come to his audition. I really love that scene.)

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Several opinions;
1) Whether Tim remembers the events of 83 or not, especially unmasking Hoody/Brian, he would have still had some sort of a reaction in that moment. He still unmasked him and saw his face. Therefore Tim is either lying or Brian's face is/was completely messed up.
2) Yeah Tim was definitely more timid and shy, but I did not get a different personality vibe at all. As he said, he smokes anyways and he has always been kind of awkward in my opinion. The only missing link is the side-burns and I still believe that he lost his memory after growing his side-burns and he just assumed that was a part of his look and kept them.
3) As to why Hoody has this tape, well, it does seem to be the only tape/footage out there that shows him with the hoody, therefore being the only loose end regarding his secret identity. On the other hand not sure why he can't just get another outfit or even just a different color hoody -_-

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If this is so early in the chronology, why is Alex constantly filming nothing happening?! Does he seriously want to waste his precious tapes and batteries keeping the camera rolling for eight hours while nobody comes for an audition? Something's not quite right here...

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In entry #20 Tim comes in commenting on how cold it is, wearing the infamous tan jacket. In #84 Brian comes in commenting on the cold, wearing the infamous yellow hoodie. Nice callback. And interesting in that Tim was not wearing the tan jacket this time.

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JAL13 wrote:
Ascalondion wrote:
knightmare wrote:
Tim becomes the cool, aloof guy that was the character that Alex described.


Jay becomes pretty much a useless guy, who does nothing more than get some tapes sometimes, and on one occasion rewrites Alex's script.


"You've done nothing but make everything worse!" - Alex

So basically Alex got mad at Jay for ruining his script, inserting himself into the story as the main character, and adding new characters (Jessica). Director's Gone Bad.

More plausible than what I could come up with. Mr. Green
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2 thoughts - this

knightmare wrote:
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It sounds a lot like the Tim we've come to know is like the character from Marble Hornets the IG student film (sideburns, kinda cool and aloof.) I don't know if that means anything, but in this video, Tim seems a lot more timid.


and the fact that Alex starts to get distortion and sees the operator after he met Tim. I can imagine that Tim is some kind of psychic that can project mental trauma into the world, in the form of the Operator. He somehow and for some reason became kind of emotionally connected with the Marble Hornets project and started to 'become' his character, with the Operator beginning to stalk Alex due to him being the writer behind it. As for 37 - Tim didn't know Alex as a child by Brain did - he perhaps could have got access to that tape some point after 2006 and edited it. I have always had a suspicion that the plot of the Marble Hornets film is in some way subtly related or allegorical to what's going on.

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