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[THEORY] Everyone involved has to die, and they all know it
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onetruepurple
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I like this.

Mostly because it fits perfectly well with Hoody saying "Everyone is going to-" in Quadrant.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:36 pm
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pestoner
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lonsumtravlr wrote:
pestoner wrote:

it was "return" indeed,but the hallway jay is sitting in is very well lit,considering the house had no power,as you might recall Wink


Yes, but look at the layout and the light itself. Jay's slumped against the front door of the house in "Return"; Oppy comes out the room immediately to the left, which had a big bag of garbage in it and is close to the stairs leading to the second floor. See where Jay looks in Entry #16 after he recovers from his coughing fit.

Now, as for the light--it doesn't seem to be an overhead light. It seems to be portable and may be a strobe light (either that or that effect was added in editing). The light was likely brought there by TTA to film this response.


ironically you refer to entry#16,where jay is trying out like a hundred lightswitches just to show they do nothing at all,and in "return" its very obviously a ceiling lamp illuminating the Operators head and chest from above.

also,dear marblehornetstheguy,stop using short phrases and gifs and state your damn Point,its your thread..

PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:41 pm
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Marble Hornets
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pestoner wrote:
lonsumtravlr wrote:
pestoner wrote:

it was "return" indeed,but the hallway jay is sitting in is very well lit,considering the house had no power,as you might recall Wink


Yes, but look at the layout and the light itself. Jay's slumped against the front door of the house in "Return"; Oppy comes out the room immediately to the left, which had a big bag of garbage in it and is close to the stairs leading to the second floor. See where Jay looks in Entry #16 after he recovers from his coughing fit.

Now, as for the light--it doesn't seem to be an overhead light. It seems to be portable and may be a strobe light (either that or that effect was added in editing). The light was likely brought there by TTA to film this response.


ironically you refer to entry#16,where jay is trying out like a hundred lightswitches just to show they do nothing at all,and in "return" its very obviously a ceiling lamp illuminating the Operators head and chest from above.

also,dear marblehornetstheguy,stop using short phrases and gifs and state your damn Point,its your thread..


i use gifs that speak for themselves

my point is you can't just make shit up to fit an argument you're trying to make. totheark bringing a lamp with him to film something is ridiculously dumb

PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:46 pm
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Marble Hornets wrote:
pestoner wrote:
lonsumtravlr wrote:
pestoner wrote:

it was "return" indeed,but the hallway jay is sitting in is very well lit,considering the house had no power,as you might recall Wink


Yes, but look at the layout and the light itself. Jay's slumped against the front door of the house in "Return"; Oppy comes out the room immediately to the left, which had a big bag of garbage in it and is close to the stairs leading to the second floor. See where Jay looks in Entry #16 after he recovers from his coughing fit.

Now, as for the light--it doesn't seem to be an overhead light. It seems to be portable and may be a strobe light (either that or that effect was added in editing). The light was likely brought there by TTA to film this response.


ironically you refer to entry#16,where jay is trying out like a hundred lightswitches just to show they do nothing at all,and in "return" its very obviously a ceiling lamp illuminating the Operators head and chest from above.

also,dear marblehornetstheguy,stop using short phrases and gifs and state your damn Point,its your thread..


i use gifs that speak for themselves

my point is you can't just make shit up to fit an argument you're trying to make. totheark bringing a lamp with him to film something is ridiculously dumb



exactly what i am saying,then.

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Lithp
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Going to be a smartass & point out that everyone has to die & everyone knows it.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:46 pm
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Ristar
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I like how the OP posts a theory but when anyone makes an attempt to disprove it becomes a douchebag even though it's a theory and you know we can discuss about it, i'm surprised you don't even get a warning from the mods but oh well...

Your theory is not bad, but what about the fact that ''enttry #37'' shows that Alex was being stalked/watched during his childhood, there is obviously something personal between Alex and TO because as far as i know; TO likes to protect Alex. He was around when he didn't have the MH crew, and no one else besides the MH crew is affected by TO, so they have something special going on.

Also there are hints that Tim was being stalked by it aswell and he isn't around trying to kill anyone

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Douchebag? Please. You have a low threshhold for douchebaggery.

Entry 37 implies that but that footage is clearly edited (the operator appears right over where Alex's mom was standing)

Plus Alex's friends all said he was normal until summer of 2009 when he started getting paranoid. If the operator was following him for a long time he'd have figured out about the memory loss well before 2009. Even Amy said he was being unusual and she was with him since pre-filming at least

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Ristar
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Marble Hornets wrote:
Douchebag? Please. You have a low threshhold for douchebaggery.

Entry 37 implies that but that footage is clearly edited (the operator appears right over where Alex's mom was standing)

Plus Alex's friends all said he was normal until summer of 2009 when he started getting paranoid. If the operator was following him for a long time he'd have figured out about the memory loss well before 2009


You can disagree with someone without being a douchebag about it

And if what you say it's true then what's even the point on releasing enttry #37, just to say ''Look Alex, TO creepy stuff''. Yes it's edited but they are implying that it was around when Alex was a kid, or they maybe just showing you Alex's age or birthday date, but i'm not sure if that was known before that entry

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paladin181
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First off Lithp, you are, as always, spot on.

But in the case of this show/game, I'll say I like parts of this theory. I don't think Jay knew. I think this is mainly a game for power being played between Brian and Alex, with the Operator in the middle. And now Brian is supposedly dead (I don't buy that at this point, that fall shouldn't have killed anyone). I don't think everyone NEEDS to die, but rather that this is two rivals trying to gain favor with TO, and to do that, they're killing their friends. Hoody is doing it covertly, luring them to Alex for him to take out. Alex is finishing the job, but will TO respect and reward brute force (Alex) or cunning and deception (Hoody)?

That's my opinion anyhow.

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lonsumtravlr wrote:
pestoner wrote:

it was "return" indeed,but the hallway jay is sitting in is very well lit,considering the house had no power,as you might recall Wink


Yes, but look at the layout and the light itself. Jay's slumped against the front door of the house in "Return"; Oppy comes out the room immediately to the left, which had a big bag of garbage in it and is close to the stairs leading to the second floor. See where Jay looks in Entry #16 after he recovers from his coughing fit.

Now, as for the light--it doesn't seem to be an overhead light. It seems to be portable and may be a strobe light (either that or that effect was added in editing). The light was likely brought there by TTA to film this response.


It's clearly not Jay's apartment. Compare the hallway--including the moulding on the door and the position of the locks--with Jay's apartment. They're very different.

I don't see why the thought of having some sort of light added is so "dumb" when we're talking about someone who goes to great lengths to dig up old stock footage or movie clips and to place clues in out of the way locations for Jay to find, but the other option for why the lights may have worked then but not when Jay visited is that the power had been manually shut off. It's obvious that whoever it was who tipped Jay off about the house wanted him to come to there not only to find clues but to be even more intimidated. (EDIT: In fact, intimidation may have been the main reason for it, even if we can argue that Tim/Masky, whether or not he was supposed to be TTA in season one, was "on Jay's side," whatever that means. The tip sends Jay to an apparently abandoned house with no power but with garbage built up, evidence of violence in the upstairs room where the bloody sink and bullet casing were found, and the probable presence of the Operator as evidenced not only by the visual tearing but by Jay's intense coughing fit. Intimidation and maybe even an initiation into the reality underlying the mystery that Jay discovered on the MH videos.)

The third option is that Oppy paid the overdue power bills and the reactivation fees shortly after Entry #18.

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Ristar wrote:
Marble Hornets wrote:
Douchebag? Please. You have a low threshhold for douchebaggery.

Entry 37 implies that but that footage is clearly edited (the operator appears right over where Alex's mom was standing)

Plus Alex's friends all said he was normal until summer of 2009 when he started getting paranoid. If the operator was following him for a long time he'd have figured out about the memory loss well before 2009


You can disagree with someone without being a douchebag about it

And if what you say it's true then what's even the point on releasing enttry #37, just to say ''Look Alex, TO creepy stuff''. Yes it's edited but they are implying that it was around when Alex was a kid, or they maybe just showing you Alex's age or birthday date, but i'm not sure if that was known before that entry


Truth. God forbid that I don't like this theory because I might have to go confess my sins. Totalitarian at its best. Let's gaslight some more.

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...Sorry, I can't brain right now. What about totalitarianism and gaslighting?

And yes, it seems to me pretty clear that Enttry 37 was likely meant to imply a childhood connection to TO. Was the video obviously edited? Yes, but to what purpose? Do we assume that it's a useless video in which TTA is trying to mislead us? Wouldn't it make much more sense to assume that he edited it to try and communicate a message? Maybe he didn't have any video actually proving Alex's childhood connection, but he knew it just the same, and wanted us to know as well.

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Again I pose the question of, if that's the case, why Alex was so obviously normal up until 2009, until shortly after meeting Tim when he starts going nuts? If those symptoms hit him beforehand in his life he'd have seeked help (and don't say we don't know that he didn't, because if it was true they would have made it a point to mention it by now)

We know Tim was sent to a mental institution for his problems, whereas Alex was perfectly fine and able to go to high school and then onto college. Was able to hold a steady girlfriend, etc. There's no reason to believe the operator had such an effect on Tim but not on Alex, if we're going to assume they were both being stalked as kids.

We also know Tim and Alex didn't know each other beforehand. It would be way too coincidental for them both to be stalked by the operator before in their lives and then they end up not only meeting each other but spending a lot of time together on a movie


It was more likely a way to scare Alex. Not only did it show he had access to his footage from when he was a kid, but it represented that Alex's birthday was coming up (which it was, two weeks later)

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Not a bad theory, it'd definitely explain why Alex was so pissed at Jay uploading the videos. Now we're all infected by this.

I don't agree that "they all know it." It looks like only Hoody and Alex really know it, and they're the ones trying to make it happen. This would explain why Hoody jumped off that ledge. He wanted Tim to get angry enough at Alex that he'd confront him, setting up a final showdown.
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I don't think that was the reasoning. Alex clearly knew about the MH youtube channel way back in season 1 (otherwise why would he bother sending that tape to Jay)

I think it's once Jay gets Jessica involved that he knows he's gotta kill him, esp since he has the footage of Brian that shows Alex is bad. Entry 40 could be seen as an attempted sacrifice of Jay, but it doesn't explain why Alex didn't just shoot him then and there.

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