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Importance of Entry #12
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Lithp
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You know, actually, back then, I would have agreed with Jay. It's just that since then, I've seen so many Operator encounters that went nowhere.

I seem to recall The Operator just doing the head movement after standing still for long periods of time.

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Lithp wrote:
You know, actually, back then, I would have agreed with Jay. It's just that since then, I've seen so many Operator encounters that went nowhere.

I seem to recall The Operator just doing the head movement after standing still for long periods of time.


That's true--there have been quite a few instances with him just standing there (and I agree that it's been a couple too many since some point in season two). But every time I've seen the head movement (that I can recall, anyway), it has immediately preceded (or, in the case of Entry #12, seems immediately to precede) an actual attack and abduction rather than a near-miss or just an appearance. The entries I mentioned earlier are those in which I specifically remember the head movement and then--something (often explained on title card afterward).

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Is it just me or does Entry #12 seem like it was put in there as a scare factor? Back in the day when i first saw Entry #12 it sort of freaked me out, but I always wondered what became of that.

Maybe he just teleported away and everyone forgot what they had seen. It was like the day Jay appeared on camera for the first time, but never remembered being at the house that day due to TO's presence right outside the window.

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Entry #12 is one of the entries that still freaks me out. Most of season one still does, even post desensitization and attrition. I think it's one of the episodes that they nailed perfectly--even the way the dialogue and acting and cinematography seem to capture a random scene on the MH set. Perfect foreshadowing with Alex's opening line, "Ah--he'll move..." I think this, #23, #64, and #72 are probably the best. I can never watch them without being unsettled, even though I know precisely what's coming and even when it's coming.

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JAL13 wrote:
Maybe he just teleported away and everyone forgot what they had seen.


That's possible--TO could have made everyone forget they'd seen him. But it's still "very important," in Jay's terms, to know that, because it would provide more clarity about what had and had not happened to the MH crew. At least we'd know that if TO did take most of the crew or if most of them did die at Alex's hand, then at least it didn't happen then. (Though it's unlikely that anyone was abducted for good, because Alex didn't seem any shade of homicidal and crazy.)

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I was wondering when this topic would pop back up, I was going to post on the Entry #12 forum but thought I'd missed that chance. I think the events that come after this tape are extremely important. In the reply Jay gave to DavFlamerock he said there was time left on the tape but it was blank. Now I know that means that nothing was recorded on that particular tape or camera but I've been hoping that ever since I saw that Entry they would revisit the events of that day in a more recent Entry. If they can go back as far as the casting of Marble Hornets in Entry #84 I can't see why they wouldn't go back to this. The girl behind the camera sounds like Sarah. What could have happened is that TO did his thing, everyone falls on ground, seizures yadda yadda yadda.....camera cuts for a split second and the only person left standing is Alex, he's been effected and harmed...just to a different extent.

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lonsumtravlr wrote:
JAL13 wrote:
Maybe he just teleported away and everyone forgot what they had seen.


That's possible--TO could have made everyone forget they'd seen him. But it's still "very important," in Jay's terms, to know that, because it would provide more clarity about what had and had not happened to the MH crew. At least we'd know that if TO did take most of the crew or if most of them did die at Alex's hand, then at least it didn't happen then. (Though it's unlikely that anyone was abducted for good, because Alex didn't seem any shade of homicidal and crazy.)


I've always wanted to see what happened after this, but I accepted that I may never know. It seems as if it was a stand-alone incident that proves that the entire MH crew has, at one point, witnessed TO.

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lonsumtravlr wrote:
It's highly unlikely that Alex walked up to TO, heard him say, "Oh, sorry, I didn't know you were shooting a film, I'll try this other trail over here," and then walked back and finished shooting. I think TO's lack of facial features would have been enough to spook him off the shoot for the rest of the day.


While your point that TO didn't bid them good day and walk the other direction is a good one, the facial features thing has always been a sticking point. It's never explained how the guys actually "see" TO off camera. Some of the early Slender Man images had the thing where he just has a different face to everyone who sees him in person. It's just in photos and stuff that you can really tell that he's faceless.

Besides, he can definitely fuck with perception and memory. I mean, something weird almost certainly went down after the recording cut off, that's for sure, but it was pretty clear that nobody was spooked by TO, so he must not have looked too abnormal to the naked eye up to the point the camera cut off.

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Lithp wrote:
You know, actually, back then, I would have agreed with Jay. It's just that since then, I've seen so many Operator encounters that went nowhere.

I seem to recall The Operator just doing the head movement after standing still for long periods of time.

As far as I can remember, it generally only does the head tilt when it "does" something, and the only exception I can think of is Entry 13, where the camera cut off pretty much immediately after and we don't know whether or not it might have "done" something at that point.

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TheJoker wrote:
Lithp wrote:
You know, actually, back then, I would have agreed with Jay. It's just that since then, I've seen so many Operator encounters that went nowhere.

I seem to recall The Operator just doing the head movement after standing still for long periods of time.

As far as I can remember, it generally only does the head tilt when it "does" something, and the only exception I can think of is Entry 13, where the camera cut off pretty much immediately after and we don't know whether or not it might have "done" something at that point.


I still wanna know who the fuck was filming Jay going to the car when this was happening!

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lonsumtravlr wrote:
TheJoker wrote:
Lithp wrote:
You know, actually, back then, I would have agreed with Jay. It's just that since then, I've seen so many Operator encounters that went nowhere.

I seem to recall The Operator just doing the head movement after standing still for long periods of time.

As far as I can remember, it generally only does the head tilt when it "does" something, and the only exception I can think of is Entry 13, where the camera cut off pretty much immediately after and we don't know whether or not it might have "done" something at that point.


I still wanna know who the fuck was filming Jay going to the car when this was happening!


It had to be Brian, but don't hold onto that sequence too tightly, it was in season 1.

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Then it could have been Tim with the theory that it was him as TTA in season 1.

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hachiman wrote:
Then it could have been Tim with the theory that it was him as TTA in season 1.


wouldn't rule it out.

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Cyan507 wrote:
hachiman wrote:
Then it could have been Tim with the theory that it was him as TTA in season 1.


wouldn't rule it out.


I guess it ultimately doesn't matter, but it coulda been Seth too. While he apparently had nothing to do with TTA, what if he did find something weird in the tapes (as he was the cameraman and had access to the footage) and started his own investigation? (Though it doesn't make sense why he'd focus on Jay...)

Speculation with no other point than to keep me from doing Saturday night work (with the help of my trusty assistant Twisted Tea).

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lonsumtravlr wrote:
Cyan507 wrote:
hachiman wrote:
Then it could have been Tim with the theory that it was him as TTA in season 1.


wouldn't rule it out.


I guess it ultimately doesn't matter, but it coulda been Seth too. While he apparently had nothing to do with TTA, what if he did find something weird in the tapes (as he was the cameraman and had access to the footage) and started his own investigation? (Though it doesn't make sense why he'd focus on Jay...)

Speculation with no other point than to keep me from doing Saturday night work (with the help of my trusty assistant Twisted Tea).


Well the thing is there was an overwhelming amount of evidence that Seth was hoody AND totheark, but it turned out to be Brian.

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