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EverymanHYBRID 2014
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Hannartt
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 		So, I was getting really tired of implausible theories surrounding the "cameraman", so I made a page on the wiki summarising all of its "appearances", and the facts about it that we can assume are likely to be true based on what we've seen of it so far.

http://everymanhybrid.wikia.com/wiki/The_Things_%28Cameramen%29

Given that it's always referred to as "one of those things"—i.e. always in plural (except the one time HABIT addresses its identity and says the one present is just a cameraman), I'm pretty sure it's safe to conclude there's more than one.

I think it's likely that it's some sort of zombie-esque proxy, especially given the limp and humanoid form shown in the MLAnderson entry. But, yeah. It's all there.

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First, am I correct in thinking that this entry takes place somewhere between "Lexi" and TribeTwelve's "Severance?" Or is this really and truly current? It seems to have been filmed while

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Evan was still Habit


Why are you making this assumption? Habit can use the internet without being tied to Evan you know? I was even kind of considering that Habit had taken control of Michael because of what he says about the necklace thing. He said there was something in his head that sounded like himself, but he knew it wasn't Patrick. I don't know, that sounds a lot like Habit. Of course, there probably would have been purple distortion, so I don't know.
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knifeman wrote:
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First, am I correct in thinking that this entry takes place somewhere between "Lexi" and TribeTwelve's "Severance?" Or is this really and truly current? It seems to have been filmed while

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Evan was still Habit


Why are you making this assumption? Habit can use the internet without being tied to Evan you know? I was even kind of considering that Habit had taken control of Michael because of what he says about the necklace thing. He said there was something in his head that sounded like himself, but he knew it wasn't Patrick. I don't know, that sounds a lot like Habit. Of course, there probably would have been purple distortion, so I don't know.


Well HABIT could have been that voice, I get the impression the purple distortion is when he's using his powers in some way, and it's not like he really did that in the MLA videos. That's pure speculation on my part though.
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I'm trying to figure out when exactly EMH jumped the shark, but a lot of the "recent" entries seem to go progressively more off the rails. At this point, I really don't think the blatant crossover was completely necessary, especially if the rumor about MLA being just two or three entries away from being completed is true. The guys have started to lose their passion for this and it's definitely showing.


How do you figure that?

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 		Ignore people who say idiotic things like that, they're clearly not paying attention enough to have anything useful to say.
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knifeman wrote:
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First, am I correct in thinking that this entry takes place somewhere between "Lexi" and TribeTwelve's "Severance?" Or is this really and truly current? It seems to have been filmed while

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Evan was still Habit


Why are you making this assumption? Habit can use the internet without being tied to Evan you know? I was even kind of considering that Habit had taken control of Michael because of what he says about the necklace thing. He said there was something in his head that sounded like himself, but he knew it wasn't Patrick. I don't know, that sounds a lot like Habit. Of course, there probably would have been purple distortion, so I don't know.




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Well, I think so for a couple of reasons. First and most obviously, Evan isn't present. That, combined with the YouTube description, makes me think that HABIT went to leave the note for Shaun when he left in "A Summoning," after saying "We might have guests." (Though that's actually got me thinking that this takes place in between "A Summoning" and "Lexi" instead). Then there's Vinnie's dialogue, in which he talks about having HABIT as a partner. Evan didn't show any sign of being re-inHABITed at the end of "Le premier cours," which means either Evan is still under HABIT's control in this entry (which I feel is implied), HABIT regained control of Evan after the last video took place, or HABIT has possessed someone else and made contact with Vinnie-- maybe even Michael, as you say. I find the first to be the most likely, considering that Evan appears to be HABIT's favored host.

Then there's the stranger in the bathroom from "Severance," which, after this crossover, seems pretty clear to be Michael (at least his body). Obviously this isn't confirmed or anything, but it seems to be pointing to him at least.

Also, Vinnie seems to be working with HABIT in this entry, albeit uncomfortably and unwillingly, similarly to how he was in "Amuse-Bouche" and "Lexi."

Yeah, I know HABIT can use the internet without possessing someone. I didn't even think in those terms. Obviously, I might be wrong about all of this, of course, but it seems like this is footage that was filmed a while ago and we're just seeing it now-- similarly to how MLAnderson0 has felt since it came back.

Does that all make sense? Or am I just saying things?


Also, thanks for adding that page to the Wiki, Hannartt. Seems I was mistaken about the camera-thing. Really helpful to see it all in one place.

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 		Well there was a lot of snow in BROTHERLY LOVE from the MLA channel, but I don't really follow New Jersey weather since I live nowhere near there. Hasn't been snow in my area for a while though and I am more North.

Again, pure speculation.
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drseussicide wrote:
Ignore people who say idiotic things like that, they're clearly not paying attention enough to have anything useful to say.


I have to concur. I'm getting annoyed shooting down that rumor time & time again. If some people don't like it, fine, but saying that the team is losing interest flies in the face of all available evidence.

Okay, so:

1. What's this about a clock?

2. Is Vinnie's "partner" HABIT or the Camera-Thing?

If it's the latter, then that could indicate that what we see on camera isn't its true form.

3. Is there any more MLAnderson00 stuff I should know? I rather hope not.

4. Distortion. Slenderman?

5.If all of these series are crossing over, it occurs to me that EMH might not even explain anything about Slenderman or the Rake, & solely focus on HABIT. This could explain why Slenderman has all but vanished from the series--it is not considered their main antagonist, but is more important in Tribe Twelve. I hope this is not the case.

6. There is no evidence that HABIT can do anything while not possessing someone, though it does not specifically have to be Evan.

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 		Michael of MLAndersen broke the hands of this mystical clock thing when he was like a small child. We don't know why he could see/find it.

I don't think I'm forgetting anything else super important.
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 		Great. Now I'm even more lost than I was after the last video, and I was pretty fucking lost then.

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Also, this crossover business? Used to be annoying. Now it's seriously pissing me off. I don't even watch MLAndersen0; I tried, and just couldn't get into it. I am not going to force myself to try it again just because it might (and that's a pretty big damn maybe) help me make some kind of sense out of EMH.


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 		Cool to see the cameraman try to talk. And more of Vinny helping HABIT. This seems to me like it took place after Lexi but before the more recent videos. Can't say for sure. It'd fit with Evan's "he hurt so many people" line though. Why is HABIT(?) uploading these so out of order?

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Agreed with others complaining about the crossover aspect. I'm not even pissed off any more though. I was annoyed before the recent TT one got going, then I was majorly pissed off, now I'm just past the point of caring and sort of indifferently wondering if EMH has much chance of saving its final act at this rate. Is it really so hard to just tell your own story without crossing over with everyone else? I am so done trying to justify these all being one universe in my head. It is just flat-out silly. And I see no reason why I should care enough to try to figure out why it wouldn't be silly.

Also MLAndersen0 I never got very far into. Very uninteresting. So not pleased that EMH crosses over with a series like that just after it gets done crossing over with TT, which is also very bad.


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 		I think it's a bit early to write off EverymanHYBRID, but yes, the crossing over is way past ridiculous, & this is really the textbook case of why crossovers don't work unless you can rely on most of your audience being fans of both series. There's a clock & a journal & apparently they're Slenderman's Kryptonite & Noah is Firebrand & WHAT THE FUCK DOES ANY OF THIS HAVE TO DO WITH EVERYMANHYBRID!?

Either all of this is going to actually be important, as if EverymanHYBRID isn't confusing enough without having to follow other series to "get it," or they're just one-shots, in which case, why are we wasting so much time on them? I think it's because the guys are just too nice. Seriously, once again, it seems like they were providing a Deus Ex Machina when another series needed it, not to mention pleasing crossover fans, but not taking much for themselves. Granted, this time, they worked a bit of their own story into it, elaborating a small amount on the Camera-Things, but realistically, they didn't need anyone else for that & oh dear shit, "we're going to have guests" was foreshadowing this Crossover Fever, wasn't it?

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Cool to see the cameraman try to talk. And more of Vinny helping HABIT. This seems to me like it took place after Lexi but before the more recent videos. Can't say for sure. It'd fit with Evan's "he hurt so many people" line though. Why is HABIT(?) uploading these so out of order?


That's what's nagging me. I feel like the EverymanHYBRID update today might've been uploaded by Vinnie after seeing the MLAnderson0 one. I can picture Vinnie and Evan going over footage they've taken since they moved in, trying to piece together exactly what happened, for Evan's sake if not for Vinnie's. Evan didn't seem to remember absolutely everything that happened, or that might've just been shock at being independent again, and I do think it was Vinnie who uploaded the previous two entries.

Or it's HABIT doing HABIT things for HABIT reasons.

I personally like the crossovers, but I also happen to like the series they've crossed over with, so that colors my opinion.

There will probably be another crossover entry with MLAnderson0, especially if that is Michael in the bathroom in "Severance," and after that I think it's going to be over for a while. Unless, you know, WhisperedFaith decides to get in on the action.

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 		On one hand I can sympathize with people who don't want to have to watch a separate series to understand some of the plot but... I hate to tell you guys this...

http://imgur.com/VojGdpD

It's in our DNA at this juncture.
I mean these guys live together... they were bound to crossover.
Now I AM hoping we do get individual endings for each series...

But EMH has ALWAYS had half the information not on the main channel...

Again, I'm completely sympathetic to the grievances...

I'm just playin devil's advocate as I feel we don't have the full picture yet.

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Master of Octopi wrote:
Also, thanks for adding that page to the Wiki, Hannartt. Seems I was mistaken about the camera-thing. Really helpful to see it all in one place.


No worries. I'm really intrigued about its identity.

Regarding everyone saying "Three's company" occurred before "Lexi"—is it merely the implication that Evan's possessed that makes you say that? It seemed evident to me that HABIT can come and go from those he possesses at will without much hassle. I don't think it's implausible to think that this video is recent.

And the crossovers... I think the fact is, HABIT's one of the best damn villains of all the slendervlogs, and he's not intrinsically tied to Slendy. He therefore can act as an agent to further the plot by being a messenger of sorts in the various series. And as Josiah said, these guys all know each other; they're gonna help each other out. It might be irritating to some, having to watch all of them to know what's going on (do you really, though?), but I can see why they did it.

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