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[VIDEO] Entry #84
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TheManPF wrote:
I really doubt that mailbox is relevant at all


That would make a great rage inducing reveal if it was.

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Pfft, next you guys are going to tell me the red tower is entirely pointless except for a single tape being hidden the... wait...

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Jsor wrote:
Pfft, next you guys are going to tell me the red tower is entirely pointless except for a single tape being hidden the... wait...


The mailbox is old and belongs to someone else. After all this time, there wouldn't be anything in it. I doubt the number is significant either. It's just Alex getting b-roll for his movie. The important part is supposed to be when the distortion shows up and you see Alex shake/hit the camera to try to fix it.

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Sha Noran
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I think 305 is irrelevant, unless it ties into a previous TTA code.

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Jsor
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twistedpuppet wrote:
Jsor wrote:
Pfft, next you guys are going to tell me the red tower is entirely pointless except for a single tape being hidden the... wait...


The mailbox is old and belongs to someone else. After all this time, there wouldn't be anything in it. I doubt the number is significant either. It's just Alex getting b-roll for his movie. The important part is supposed to be when the distortion shows up and you see Alex shake/hit the camera to try to fix it.


I'm agreeing with you. My point was that there is precedent for "important" things to lead absolutely nowhere.

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Jsor wrote:
twistedpuppet wrote:
Jsor wrote:
Pfft, next you guys are going to tell me the red tower is entirely pointless except for a single tape being hidden the... wait...


The mailbox is old and belongs to someone else. After all this time, there wouldn't be anything in it. I doubt the number is significant either. It's just Alex getting b-roll for his movie. The important part is supposed to be when the distortion shows up and you see Alex shake/hit the camera to try to fix it.


I'm agreeing with you. My point was that there is precedent for "important" things to lead absolutely nowhere.


Why do people think the mailbox is important? Just because Alex filmed it, doesn't mean it's important. The only important thing about showing the b-roll stuff is to establish that this is the earliest point, we can confirm, that Alex came in contact with The Operator. That's what we were supposed to take away from that. Am I the only one able to pick up on this stuff?

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twistedpuppet wrote:
Jsor wrote:
twistedpuppet wrote:
Jsor wrote:
Pfft, next you guys are going to tell me the red tower is entirely pointless except for a single tape being hidden the... wait...


The mailbox is old and belongs to someone else. After all this time, there wouldn't be anything in it. I doubt the number is significant either. It's just Alex getting b-roll for his movie. The important part is supposed to be when the distortion shows up and you see Alex shake/hit the camera to try to fix it.


I'm agreeing with you. My point was that there is precedent for "important" things to lead absolutely nowhere.


Why do people think the mailbox is important? Just because Alex filmed it, doesn't mean it's important. The only important thing about showing the b-roll stuff is to establish that this is the earliest point, we can confirm, that Alex came in contact with The Operator. That's what we were supposed to take away from that. Am I the only one able to pick up on this stuff?


If you invested yourself with the codes, enjoy the often detailed environments of the series, and were disappointed by Entry #84, you probably would be looking hopefully for significant signs everywhere, too.

I'm more on the side of it being a red herring, but I wouldn't be surprised if it DID have some relevance to something. If it does, though, it might be to something that will be revealed in the final episodes (by which I mean that maybe that house will play a role or that street or something--I doubt it, but it's not impossible).

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twistedpuppet wrote:
Jsor wrote:
twistedpuppet wrote:
Jsor wrote:
Pfft, next you guys are going to tell me the red tower is entirely pointless except for a single tape being hidden the... wait...


The mailbox is old and belongs to someone else. After all this time, there wouldn't be anything in it. I doubt the number is significant either. It's just Alex getting b-roll for his movie. The important part is supposed to be when the distortion shows up and you see Alex shake/hit the camera to try to fix it.


I'm agreeing with you. My point was that there is precedent for "important" things to lead absolutely nowhere.


Why do people think the mailbox is important? Just because Alex filmed it, doesn't mean it's important. The only important thing about showing the b-roll stuff is to establish that this is the earliest point, we can confirm, that Alex came in contact with The Operator. That's what we were supposed to take away from that. Am I the only one able to pick up on this stuff?


I don't know how else I'm supposed to say I'm agreeing with you. I don't know why you're arguing with me. My joke was saying that other things (e.g. the red tower) that people thought had great plot significance really didn't. I was joking about the board's tendency to focus on mundane things and think they're important (see also: the paintings mentioned by Jay pre Season 3).

To be fair, my joke wasn't great because the red tower was a legitimate plot point (see Jay waking up there after the tweetpocalypse) but the entire point of my joke was that plenty of things that ended up with little to no actual plot significance were elevated to the status of Very Important™ on the board. I was making the same observation you are.

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ReverendJ
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I would prefer not to call the mailbox a red herring because I don't want to acknowledge that someone thought it was important in the first place.

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Sha Noran
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You shouldn't make out the content of b-roll to be of particular significance. Did the roads in the b-roll used for the introduction have any significance? Did Brian's b-roll shots from 51 have any significance? No, in a found footage style piece filming b-roll is a plot device to explain the presence of a filming camera. The significance is what else is found in the footage besides what was intentionally filmed.

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I don't quite understand the hostility against any sort of speculation or trying to find hint's and clues in an entry. I mean, this is still the unFiction Board, right? Where, if not here, are people expected to pick up on seemingly minor details and try to get some clues out of them?

Doesn't mean that the mailbox is important anyhow, it could very well be completely random. But that's why I asked whether or not anyone found anything related to either the mailbox, or the number – to see IF there is any sort of reference. So I don't get why this is being shut down so hard.
It's not that I proposed some wonky theory in which Alex intentionally filmed that number on that mailbox, to leave some kind of message to Tim because he knew how things would went down.
I just asked if anyone found a reference to either that number or that mailbox. If so, great, if not, also fine. But I don't know why you assume from the outset that there could be no reference whatsoever, and blame anyone who at least looks whether or not there is one.

"Because it is random B-Roll!"
Yeah, guess what. That random B-Roll has also some random traffic lights that have a great similarity to the round lights that are featured in many TTAs as eyes, and to some extent even in #83. Does it mean that they are super important and crucial in regards to immediate progression of the story line? No. Does it mean they are completely unrelated? I doubt that too. They maybe never get important story wise, but they could tie in with some other things, or be just there for background information or more general motifs. (Just as the unimportant shots of creeks and water in other entries. It is reasonable to doubt that any fire/water reference is crucial to the upcoming events, but I still believe that there is some sort of fire/water motif going on in MH.)

"But the tower was irrelevant too."
Yes, but that doesn't made speculation about it false in the sense that the activity of speculating itself was wrong. Even if the tower, as far as we know, does not play any other role than having tape #22 hidden inside, it would have been "wrong" at that time (say, after watching "Version") to assume that it is completely meaningless and condemn any sort of speculation about it as futile. So even though the number on the mailbox is even more meaningless than the tower, it wouldn't be false to at least try to find some references, even if that endeavour turns out the result "Nah, nothin's there." I mean, it's not like this has blocked any interesting discussion that was going on …

"WTF do you want, then?"
Nothing. I was just curious that the number was so clearly seen, while they else avoid to show any address data other the room numbers in the season 2 hotel. So I asked whether I had missed any reference, that maybe this was Tim's, or Alex's or Jay's or Sarah's Mailbox, or whether TTA had incorporated the "305" somewhere in his videos, just like maybe with the traffic lights show earlier in the B-Roll. That does not seem to be the case, tough. No harm done.

*If you are bothered by wild speculations over details, please stop reading here.*
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
If nothing but, it still could be a little OOG wink to us viewers. The series has so far some minor nods towards the "four means death" thing, and also features the 0 as a symbol somehow related to TO. And now, he have probably the first TO contact with Alex, with the number "305" on screen. As if by counting up, the four is skipped and replaced by a 0. If I were to make a TTA, I would include a shot of that mail box and cross out the 0 in familiar fashion. ^^ Might be a coincidence, but at least for me a rather cute one.


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You know for a while there the bit with the mailbox reminded me of Entry #2. "I just saw this tall guy in the middle of the street, standing completely still." Even though it's early there's no Rocky and presumably no wooded area nearby.

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Ascalondion wrote:
"Because it is random B-Roll!"
Yeah, guess what. That random B-Roll has also some random traffic lights that have a great similarity to the round lights that are featured in many TTAs as eyes, and to some extent even in #83. Does it mean that they are super important and crucial in regards to immediate progression of the story line? No. Does it mean they are completely unrelated? I doubt that too. They maybe never get important story wise, but they could tie in with some other things, or be just there for background information or more general motifs. (Just as the unimportant shots of creeks and water in other entries. It is reasonable to doubt that any fire/water reference is crucial to the upcoming events, but I still believe that there is some sort of fire/water motif going on in MH.)


I'm sorry, but you are overthinking this wayyyyyyyy too much.
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I think the address the Mailbox belongs to is relevant. I don't think there's a tape or anything there, but the location is probably of some import, else why show it so definitively?

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Ascalondion wrote:
I don't quite understand the hostility against any sort of speculation or trying to find hint's and clues in an entry. I mean, this is still the unFiction Board, right? Where, if not here, are people expected to pick up on seemingly minor details and try to get some clues out of them?


See this basically sums up the issue with the fandom, unFiction made everyone think Marble Hornets was an arg, and that ergo it should be picked apart piece by piece, but it's not it's just like a really long serialized web movie, and the mailbox and all the other mailboxes are total bullshit!

That's probably taking things too seriously though. I wrote that thing I wrote up there but I don't really mean it. I'm too tired to give that many shits about that.
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