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knightmare
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lonsumtravlr wrote:
I know--I guess I'm just a "glass half-empty, fuckin' glass, screwing me again!" type of fan.




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knightmare wrote:
lonsumtravlr wrote:
I know--I guess I'm just a "glass half-empty, fuckin' glass, screwing me again!" type of fan.




That's wicked hilarious. Where'd you get that?

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lonsumtravlr wrote:
That's wicked hilarious. Where'd you get that?


I made it. Luckily, all the letters I needed for "The Operator" were already there, so it was just some copypasta.

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knightmare wrote:
lonsumtravlr wrote:
That's wicked hilarious. Where'd you get that?


I made it. Luckily, all the letters I needed for "The Operator" were already there, so it was just some copypasta.


That's damn cool, man.

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lonsumtravlr wrote:
knightmare wrote:
lonsumtravlr wrote:
That's wicked hilarious. Where'd you get that?


I made it. Luckily, all the letters I needed for "The Operator" were already there, so it was just some copypasta.


That's damn cool, man.


Thanks. I thought it fit the mood of the prior few posts.

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Cyan507 wrote:
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Jordan wrote:
I wonder if anyone will make it out alive.

It would be quite intresting if Alex made it out alive and tried to make sense of his own story and doing it very badly, mirroring his Marble Hornets film (with Amy either REALLY dead this time and Alex being subject to a motivational Operator mindwipe or Amy just fleeing from the sight of him after calling him out on his crap)


I don't know about the last part, but Alex being the sole survivor isn't a bad ending. Jay's gone, and it sorta fits Tim's tragic narrative for him to follow Jay. That's sort of in line with the Slenderman myth, that ultimately if you're stalked by him, he'll get you, anyway.


It's a theory I'd entertain, but Alex would need to gain access to Jay's channel and possibly twitter. I kinda want Tim to come up tops though, not because of the "good prevailing" cliché but because he needs to win. Anyone he has ever called a friend is dead, his life has been destroyed and he has come all this way, it'd be so sad if he just failed Sad

He could die victorious. Alex surviving doesn't have to mean that TO wins, either. For that matter, it's perfectly possible for Tim to die having succeeded and Alex to suffer more by surviving than if he'd just died.

I actually thought (and still sorta think) that the best ending would have been for most of the major players to survive, but all so broken beyond repair that it might have been better for them if they had just died.

And just because I think it's more fitting to end the series with the character we the viewers began it with, I think it might be better if Alex somehow ends up the final POV character. Of course, if people are actually right about all this about there only being two or three entries left that's not so likely to happen for more than maybe the final entry, but nonetheless that's what I would like to see.

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TheJoker wrote:
Cyan507 wrote:
lonsumtravlr wrote:
Jordan wrote:
I wonder if anyone will make it out alive.

It would be quite intresting if Alex made it out alive and tried to make sense of his own story and doing it very badly, mirroring his Marble Hornets film (with Amy either REALLY dead this time and Alex being subject to a motivational Operator mindwipe or Amy just fleeing from the sight of him after calling him out on his crap)


I don't know about the last part, but Alex being the sole survivor isn't a bad ending. Jay's gone, and it sorta fits Tim's tragic narrative for him to follow Jay. That's sort of in line with the Slenderman myth, that ultimately if you're stalked by him, he'll get you, anyway.


It's a theory I'd entertain, but Alex would need to gain access to Jay's channel and possibly twitter. I kinda want Tim to come up tops though, not because of the "good prevailing" cliché but because he needs to win. Anyone he has ever called a friend is dead, his life has been destroyed and he has come all this way, it'd be so sad if he just failed Sad

He could die victorious. Alex surviving doesn't have to mean that TO wins, either. For that matter, it's perfectly possible for Tim to die having succeeded and Alex to suffer more by surviving than if he'd just died.

I actually thought (and still sorta think) that the best ending would have been for most of the major players to survive, but all so broken beyond repair that it might have been better for them if they had just died.

And just because I think it's more fitting to end the series with the character we the viewers began it with, I think it might be better if Alex somehow ends up the final POV character. Of course, if people are actually right about all this about there only being two or three entries left that's not so likely to happen for more than maybe the final entry, but nonetheless that's what I would like to see.


That would awesome, if the series ended with Alex's being the narrator then the series would have gone full-circle.

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 		I think an interesting way to end the series after Alex is triumphant over Tim would be for Alex to be talking to the camera, saying that he's going to destroy all the tapes, all the pictures, as well as the all the entries on YouTube, to try to eliminate all evidence of The Operator. That way, with nobody thinking about it, there will be no fear to feed on. After making this statement, he falls on the floor and has a seizure. When he comes to, there's a knock on the door. It's Jay, asking him for the Marble Hornets tapes (entry 71.)

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knightmare wrote:
I think an interesting way to end the series after Alex is triumphant over Tim would be for Alex to be talking to the camera, saying that he's going to destroy all the tapes, all the pictures, as well as the all the entries on YouTube, to try to eliminate all evidence of The Operator. That way, with nobody thinking about it, there will be no fear to feed on. After making this statement, he falls on the floor and has a seizure. When he comes to, there's a knock on the door. It's Jay, asking him for the Marble Hornets tapes (entry 71.)


That would be fairly amazing, though I doubt it would happen given their apparent opposition to time fuckery. Cool idea though.

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Sha Noran wrote:
knightmare wrote:
I think an interesting way to end the series after Alex is triumphant over Tim would be for Alex to be talking to the camera, saying that he's going to destroy all the tapes, all the pictures, as well as the all the entries on YouTube, to try to eliminate all evidence of The Operator. That way, with nobody thinking about it, there will be no fear to feed on. After making this statement, he falls on the floor and has a seizure. When he comes to, there's a knock on the door. It's Jay, asking him for the Marble Hornets tapes (entry 71.)


That would be fairly amazing, though I doubt it would happen given their apparent opposition to time fuckery. Cool idea though.


Yep. I'd have to agree with them on the time fuckery. Everything you mention, knightmare, up to a knock on the door is a very good ending. Even having the voice on the other side claim to be someone we believe is gone for good. But that should be it.

Because not only can time fuckery be cheap; the ending could also be read, even if done well, as saying that everything from Entry # 71 didn't happen. This could lead to an instance of everything having been a dream or a delusion or the product of Alex's imagination (not TO itself but everything from the night he gave the tapes up to Entry # Eighty-whatever). The collective groan from MH fans and from those who are broader THAC fans alike would be louder than the collective groan of the packed audience when we got to the ending of The Blair Witch Project and realized that
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you can see the fucking ending coming less than five minutes into the fucking movie
. This would be more akin to the end of the TV sitcom Newhart, where
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Bob Newhart's character, the owner of an inn in Vermont, was struck on the head with a golf ball and woke up in his previous sitcom having dreamt the series' entire eight-year run
, or the hospital drama St. Elsewhere, where
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the entire show was imagined by an autistic child of a people played by actors who had portrayed the doctors in the child's dream. I don't know what the THAC analogy would be, though I'm sure it would involve both Timman and Craig Digsby. It also would likely piss a lot of people off
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 		I think in this case, Entry 71 did happen, it's just that it was the end, as well as the beginning. Basically, TO has them all caught in a loop. Essentially, they're all dead and living this out repeatedly is their purgatory. The Ark is a way to escape the loop, but nobody found it.

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knightmare wrote:
I think in this case, Entry 71 did happen, it's just that it was the end, as well as the beginning. Basically, TO has them all caught in a loop. Essentially, they're all dead and living this out repeatedly is their purgatory. The Ark is a way to escape the loop, but nobody found it.


I hope this isn't the case it sounds too much like Lost.

We ARE the ark.

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 		Only the flash-sideways parts were purgatory in Lost, the main show was all real.

And while I don't foresee that happening, I think that anything involving time-screwing or loops of some sort could give an interesting explanation to why Jay made such a point of how he remembered 71 "differently" rather than "not at all", as if his memories had been altered instead of simply removed. Maybe 71 was from a different iteration.

Come to think of it, I think something like this was suggested back when 71 released.

I think if they were to pursue anything even remotely resembling this, it would be best if Alex actually remembers all previous iterations, and this is the true reason he keeps trying to kill everyone- because that will somehow end this, or so he believes. Or maybe Hoody's the one who remembers.

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TheJoker wrote:
Only the flash-sideways parts were purgatory in Lost, the main show was all real.

And while I don't foresee that happening, I think that anything involving time-screwing or loops of some sort could give an interesting explanation to why Jay made such a point of how he remembered 71 "differently" rather than "not at all", as if his memories had been altered instead of simply removed. Maybe 71 was from a different iteration.

Come to think of it, I think something like this was suggested back when 71 released.

I think if they were to pursue anything even remotely resembling this, it would be best if Alex actually remembers all previous iterations, and this is the true reason he keeps trying to kill everyone- because that will somehow end this, or so he believes. Or maybe Hoody's the one who remembers.


If they're gonna do time fucking, then those who had thought that Hoody had been Future Jay (or Parallel Universe Jay) instead of Brian have new hope (at least for another couple of months).

Not that it couldn't be done well or that Trosephim couldn't do it well, but I think that if iterations were to be brought in right now, it would seem too much as if they were grasping for something big that they hadn't given enough previous clues for.

There are other instances in MH of one of the characters remembering partially though imperfectly what had happened before having his or her memory wiped (this seems to have happened to Tim, and Jessica said in Entry #76 that she remembered Amy, even though she didn't remember how to get to her home and seemed not to remember Alex).

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 		Not sure about your criticism of The Blair Witch in regards to the film itself, personally - a lot of horror narratives telegraph the ending of their protraganists early for that wonderful claustophobic feeling.

(I'm kind of a horror nerd Smile)

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