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CenturyChild
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ToTheArcanine wrote:
Since TTA uploaded a video (assuming Hoodie posted it, anyway), does that prove TTA has Alex captive right now? I doubt Hoodie could post a vid if Alex had captured him last entry.
So perhaps the code is confirmation of Alex's capture? Maybe the house in the background is where that address leads to?

Alternatively, maybe Alex wrote the message and Hoodie is trying to tell us he escaped or never was captured to begin with.


This is an old thread; "Program" is from a while ago. The latest TTA vid is still "Conversion".

Sorry to burst your bubble. Sad

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Caffeinated Civet
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I think I might have figured this out

Hello everybody!

I think I've figured out this entry.

I apologize if somebody has already posted something like this.

The trick is to translate the numbers into ASCII control codes.

The code flashes like this:

00
0-
-0
0-

00
00
00
0-

00
00
0-
--

00
00
00
0-

Using the key from 'advocate' you can translate these into decimal:

25, 1, 13, 1

in binary that's: 11001,00001,01101,00001

The first thing you think to do is change these into ASCII letters: Y,A,M,A
Or in ASCII binary : 1011001,1000001,1001101,1000001
Because in ASCII, letters are encoded by their position in the alphabet plus 1000000 binary for capital letters or 1100000 binary for lowercase letters

But considering the video's description "000" and it's name "program" it makes sense to consider ASCII without the prefix (i.e. a prefix of 000), a sequence of control (program) codes:

25, 0011001 binary, EM "end of medium"
1, 0000001 binary, SOH "start of header"
13, 0001101 binary, CR "carriage return"
1, 0000001 binary, SOH "start of header"

This repeats three times. One thing that's strange about these commands is there is a carriage return without a corresponding line feed. If you sent that to an old dot matrix printer it would move the print head back to the beginning of the line it had just printed and start writing over what it had just written.

This is in response to entry 14. To recap that entry:

The footage starts with a shot from the inside of Alex's room.
The Operator sneaks into Alex's room and walks off screen.
Alex wakes up, turns on the light, and swings the camera around the room but does not see anything unusual.
Alex puts the camera back on the table, gets out of bed, closes the door and turns out the light. If you pause the video at the right time you can see that Alex has dark, dry blood on his face.
Cut to white text on a black screen "About 32 minutes pass on the tape before Alex changes it."
Cut to a close up of Alex's face. It's covered in fresh, red blood. Alex is looking to his right. After about a minute an alarm goes off and Alex turns off the camera.

I think totheark's message is:
EM: the end of a tape
SOH: Alex starts recording with a new tape
CR: Alex stops recording and rewinds the tape
SOH: Alex starts recording again overwriting what he recorded earlier

Which means that the part at the end with a close up of Alex happened first, followed by the recording of the inside of his room. When the alarm went off at the end of the entry Alex didn't replace the tape, he rewound the tape and recorded the first part of the entry over it.

So what do you think?

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Re: I think I might have figured this out

Caffeinated Civet wrote:

Which means that the part at the end with a close up of Alex happened first, followed by the recording of the inside of his room. When the alarm went off at the end of the entry Alex didn't replace the tape, he rewound the tape and recorded the first part of the entry over it.

So what do you think?


This is bloody brilliant.

I guess it would imply that Alex got up to some murderous antics prior to this entry. It also makes more sense with the long-since known revelation that Alex is actually working WITH The Operator. Makes less sense for TO to be the one attacking Alex.

And would show how Alex has been deceiving Jay, by making it look as though he was the victim.

SEriously sir, you are a genius.
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Re: I think I might have figured this out

Caffeinated Civet wrote:
Which means that the part at the end with a close up of Alex happened first, followed by the recording of the inside of his room. When the alarm went off at the end of the entry Alex didn't replace the tape, he rewound the tape and recorded the first part of the entry over it.

So what do you think?


I think you're a fucking genius! I think you just solved one of the oldest unsolved/questionably solved mysteries of MH! I think you just blew my mind! Absolutely astounding, great job! Amazing.

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I posit that this is early enough in the series that Troy and crew initially thought there might be fan participation, ARG style. When we failed to solve this or ever really conclusively informed Jay that Alex was perhaps not as much a victim as we are led to believe (along with a ton of other reasons), they decide to cut out fan interaction and slowly but surely Jay responds less to tweets, quits posting on SomethingAwful, and we finally get a TTA that quite directly informs us that we took too long/failed to solve all the puzzles and that (all creative) control is being taken away from us. This is all speculation obviously, but I feel it makes a good bit of meta sense, especially now that the above explanation has finally (FINALLY) been presented, basically proving that we were completely missing some things that were (and are) quite relevant to the plot. I think once they decided they were being overly cryptic on the TTA channel that they'd be better off just telling a story with the main channel rather than relying on internet geniuses to pop out of the woodwork to solve their codes.


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Re: I think I might have figured this out

Caffeinated Civet wrote:
Which means that the part at the end with a close up of Alex happened first, followed by the recording of the inside of his room. When the alarm went off at the end of the entry Alex didn't replace the tape, he rewound the tape and recorded the first part of the entry over it.

So what do you think?


I think it's brilliant! I mean damn, no one's been able to figure that out for over 4 years. Even though I'll admit that even with your very thorough explanation, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Laughing



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And if you're right, that could mean that Alex wasn't attacked by TO as originally thought. If that's the case, where did the blood come from and more importantly, whose blood is it? Could it have something to do with Sarah's unexplained disappearance? Maybe she was Alex's first victim.


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Since the reveal of Alex's true colors, I've long subscribed to the baseless theory that the blood wasn't Alex's own but rather that of his first kill. Ignoring that it doesn't make much sense for his victim's blood to end up on his face in that particular manner.

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TheJoker wrote:
Since the reveal of Alex's true colors, I've long subscribed to the baseless theory that the blood wasn't Alex's own but rather that of his first kill. Ignoring that it doesn't make much sense for his victim's blood to end up on his face in that particular manner.


Meh, blood splatter. The first kill is always sloppiest... Well actually he isn't really your typical serial killer who perfects his methods with time. It seems to me his attacks are more impulsive in nature in some instances, i.e. Bruce. Pretty sure he got some blood on his face after smashing Bruce's skull in point blank with a rock.

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if you want to be technical it's more likely that early on they wanted one of the sickness effects to be bleeding from the head and scrapped the idea for the new effects we saw in season 2 later on.

the way the blood sits on his face can not be due to spatter, it's dripping from the top of his head

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Wow, very impressive. If this is correct, you're a genius! Even if it's not, that's still a damn good job!
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This is old, but I just had this pointed out to me, so I'm going to comment anyway. So the way this goes, Alex gets bloodied up first, and then The Operator creeps into his room. So the question is, where did the blood come from? When Alex gets out of bed to close his door (after TO creeps in), we can see that he's bleeding then; it's just not as dramatic as the last shot of the entry. Here's my theory: Alex attacked someone (maybe Sarah), and they fought back, injuring him before he killed them. He films himself (him looking off to the side could be him looking at a particular crazy drawing that stated why killing was necessary) and then cleans his face off and goes to bed. He doesn't bother with bandages or anything because he thinks the bleeding has stopped. The Operator sneaks in. Later, Alex wakes up, sees his door is open, and gets up to close it. And that's when we see the cut on his head that is still bleeding, but only a little.

Of course, this raises another question: if The Operator isn't the one who hurt Alex, what did it go into his room for? That actually makes the event even creepier Shocked .

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SilentMedusa wrote:
When Alex gets out of bed to close his door (after TO creeps in), we can see that he's bleeding then; it's just not as dramatic as the last shot of the entry.


Got a screenshot of this? I'm having trouble seeing it.

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Supersox wrote:
SilentMedusa wrote:
When Alex gets out of bed to close his door (after TO creeps in), we can see that he's bleeding then; it's just not as dramatic as the last shot of the entry.


Got a screenshot of this? I'm having trouble seeing it.


Look very closely around his hairline. It took me a long time to see it, too.

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SilentMedusa wrote:
This is old, but I just had this pointed out to me, so I'm going to comment anyway. So the way this goes, Alex gets bloodied up first, and then The Operator creeps into his room. So the question is, where did the blood come from? When Alex gets out of bed to close his door (after TO creeps in), we can see that he's bleeding then; it's just not as dramatic as the last shot of the entry. Here's my theory: Alex attacked someone (maybe Sarah), and they fought back, injuring him before he killed them. He films himself (him looking off to the side could be him looking at a particular crazy drawing that stated why killing was necessary) and then cleans his face off and goes to bed. He doesn't bother with bandages or anything because he thinks the bleeding has stopped. The Operator sneaks in. Later, Alex wakes up, sees his door is open, and gets up to close it. And that's when we see the cut on his head that is still bleeding, but only a little.

Of course, this raises another question: if The Operator isn't the one who hurt Alex, what did it go into his room for? That actually makes the event even creepier Shocked .


Yes, it does make it creepier. If I'm right about TO being like a parasite or pest and for lack of a better term "nesting," then this is likely somewhat after TO had selected Alex as a mark or host. I just wonder where the blood came from and how Alex got that type of wound on his head (or maybe there was a struggle and he got a gash).

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Am I the only one that saw this necro'd thread and thought,
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Why is TotheArk still alive and posting videos?


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gennerx wrote:
Am I the only one that saw this necro'd thread and thought,
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Why is TotheArk still alive and posting videos?


Nope. :\

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