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[VIDEO] Entry #85
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Hazman
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lonsumtravlr wrote:
Rather off-topic, but I can't help remarking that Alex must've had the same pair of sneakers for years. They're the same ones in this entry (blue with white stripes and different laces on each) that they were in Entries #50, #51, and #80.

Either that or he buys not only the same type of sneaker every time (nothing wrong with that) or even the same color scheme (if you're comfortable, go with it), but also the same color scheme for the laces. That's pretty fuckin' demented.


I've worn the same style of shoes for the past 3/4 years, they are converse and they are comfy and aren't going to change for a while so it makes shoe shopping really easy, I just wait for them to nearly break and then when they are on sale buy a new pair.

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awakeasaurusrex
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lonsumtravlr wrote:
Why would he have done it, though? To flush Jay out and get him on the run and vulnerable?

My guess: Alex thought Jay was still there (remember, we don't know he left home until he uploaded Entry 25) and had discovered the YouTube channel. He thought that if he burned the apartment he might get the tapes, and if he got the tapes he might be able to nip this in the bud and stop the Operator returning. As we learned in Entry 26, this didn't exactly go the way he hoped it would.

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awakeasaurusrex
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lonsumtravlr wrote:
There's no evidence of TO being connected with Alex from an early age other than "enttry #37", which is of dubious origin.

In retrospect, enttry 37 seems to exist more to mark Alex's birthday than to suggest a lifelong connection. Though there's still time for a plot twist. Maybe it turns out that both Tim and Alex had a past connection to TO, and it was the pair of them coming into close proximity which made its activity so overt?

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SilentMedusa
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Jordan wrote:
Another impressive entry - I don't understand any compliants about how much time it took for this to get done. The boys have work and school - these things take pirority, even with the Kickstarter.

"I'm going to find him" - NOT OMNIOUS AT ALL. VERY SUBTLE, TROSEPH, VERY WELL PLAYED.


Not to mention Mother Nature being a complete bitch and dropping a bunch of tornadoes on them...

"I'm going to find him". Those sound like Famous Last Words to me. Jay said the same thing at the end of #78, and we all saw how that work out Sad .

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Marble Hornets
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adaminator1 wrote:
Beidah wrote:
adaminator1 wrote:
Marble Hornets wrote:
I liked this entry, but wish it went into more detail/went on for longer. Once again, not sure why it took so long to get this out, seemed fairly simple.

Good acting from Joseph, cool moment with the fire. Next entry seems to be the last one, not sure if we're going to get the ending we all want though.


"They only set their porch ON FIRE. FAIRLY SIMPLE GUYS.".

Hey.

Got two words for you.

Fuck you.


Jesus Christ, hostile much? Fuck you, you are contributing to nothing and adding unnecessary drama. He said he liked the entry, for fuck's sake...


Maybe I'm just sick of all of his bullshit and see no reason to give him the respect pretty much any other member on this form actually deserves.

How can you look at what happened at this entry and go "Yeah, pretty simple, shouldn't have taken this long"? He's showing a complete lack of understanding of how things like this are done. Yeah sure, maybe saying fuck you was a bit much, but honestly, at this point, I don't really give a damn. Disrespect breeds disrespect. We've all begun tiptoing around how much of an asshole he is and I honestly just don't give a fuck about that anymore. Nothing has been done about his behaviour. No warnings given. He's been given free reign to be a condescending dick for so damn long. So I have no regrets saying "Fuck you".

10/10 would antagonise again.


Sounds like you're just another upset crybaby to me

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twistedpuppet
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@adaminator1

The guy just likes to instigate. Skip over his posts. That's all I can tell you to do. Makes life so much more stress free when you do.

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onetruepurple
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They probably have their reasons as to why this entry took a long time. The fire scene was probably elaborate but it did not take 6 weeks of prep.

If you people get panic attacks from reading posts here then I suggest you either:

1. go to Tumblr, and stay in a bubble, safe from ~~POSSIBLE TRIGGERS~~.

Unless you're twistedpuppet, in which case:

2. kill yourselves.

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Ascalondion
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I was so focused on the whole rain/water thing, that, at first, I thought Alex was puring water on the floor to protect him/them of TO showing up. Very Happy

So, why did TO not show up? I find this interesting for 2 reasons, the latter being the more important one to me.

1) In recent discussions, we have tried to figure out TOs behaviour in respect to where and when he appears. Emotional distress always seemed like a good way to bring out either him or some distortion. I imagine Alex setting Tim house on fire, and Tim seeing Alex setting his house on fire, would qualify as emotional stress level enough to bring out TO. Especially because he seems to stalk at least one of those two. Which leads me to …

2) This entry pushes the "Tim is the cause of all of this" angle. Yet, when he is sitting around in his house, filming himself, neither TO is showing up, nor any other strange thing (such as teleportation) happens. There are already some comments on how the first part "humanzied" Tim to make the burning of his house more impactfull. I agree with that, but what I also felt during that first part was "Huh, if it weren't for Jay, Alex and Hoody, Tim could just have a normal life. Nothing marble hornet-y happens to him while he is just waiting at his house. So, maybe he is not the source of all this." And then, BAM, Alex shows up, screaming how all is "your fault" and burns his house.
Makes me wonder. TO has been around Alex for YEARS, while Tim (especially with his pills) seems to be able to just live a normal life, if it weren't for the rest of the MH crew. So IF he really is the source, he has transferred whatever it is that made TO appear in the first place over to Alex. The Operator, whatever intentions he has (if any) seems to more focused on Alex than on Tim. If he is somehow sentient, then something about Alex or what he did makes him more "attractive" for TO, whereas Tim does not seem to be of any interests for TO, at least not since he found Alex.

If you add to this the observation of others, how Alex's behaviour is reminiscent of a child or a madmen who is in denial of his own actions, you get to the point where to whole "Tim is the cause of all of this" point becomes rather dubious.

Any thought on that?

For the finale, I guess it will be around Rosswood. My current top 3 are (in order)
1. The Tunnel.
2. The Hospital(appendix).
3. The Shack.

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TheOperator
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So they've put off the confrontation with Alex another entry for no reason, no clear answers as expected as since Tim likely burned the hospital we can't say for sure Alex burned Jay's apartment. All this entry gives is that Tim's house is now gone, which sucks for him as a character but from a plot standpoint, so what? He was going to confront this gun-toting maniac anyway, I don't think anyone expected that to go well.

Speaking of confronting gun-toting maniacs, Tim doesn't do anything to Alex because he's surprised to see the guy who's been shown with a gun in almost every one of his more chronologically recent appearances so far has a gun? Tim didn't even seem to have a knife, which even Jay usually had. Why lead the guy with a gun to your house, enter the house after him so you can catch him by surprise, then when his back is turned, just do nothing? Tim's smarter than this.

For the most part this entry gave absolutely nothing, though I will commend it on two points. First, Tim's angst speech at the start was pretty touching in parts. And second, obviously
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Trosephim started a real fire on Tim's porch for the sake of realism. Might've been for a bad entry but still, very impressive dedication. Their daredevlish ways of filming just keep getting more extreme.


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Ascalondion
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TheOperator wrote:
So they've put off the confrontation with Alex another entry for no reason, no clear answers as expected as since Tim likely burned the hospital we can't say for sure Alex burned Jay's apartment. All this entry gives is that Tim's house is now gone, which sucks for him as a character but from a plot standpoint, so what? He was going to confront this gun-toting maniac anyway, I don't think anyone expected that to go well.

Speaking of confronting gun-toting maniacs, Tim doesn't do anything to Alex because he's surprised to see the guy who's been shown with a gun in almost every one of his more chronologically recent appearances so far has a gun? Tim didn't even seem to have a knife, which even Jay usually had. Why lead the guy with a gun to your house, enter the house after him so you can catch him by surprise, then when his back is turned, just do nothing? Tim's smarter than this.

For the most part this entry gave absolutely nothing, though I will commend it on two points. First, Tim's angst speech at the start was pretty touching in parts. And second, obviously
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Trosephim started a real fire on Tim's porch for the sake of realism. Might've been for a bad entry but still, very impressive dedication. Their daredevlish ways of filming just keep getting more extreme.


Yes, it was very Jay-ish from Tim. Maybe there is an 'ingame' explanation of that.
Tim must have known better. Remember #59? "Alex points a gun at you and your first instinct is to film it, you psychopath!"

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I just wanted to add that this gives us more food for thought than you might think.
Just imagine this somehow supports the theory that Alex indeed lit up Jay's appartment in '10, then this funks up the timeline of Alex's motives even more:

Because the burning of Jay's appartment happend BEFORE the events of #26 (i.e. TO appears at Alex house and "takes" Amy.)
I previously thought that Alex has been dragged into this again by Amy finding his old camera. But if #85 suggests that HE burned down Jay's appartment, he was into it before. Makes Alex's motives to get Jay's help even more questionable, and somehow the "turn" that happend to him around #43, #44 and #45 a bit less of a turn, but rather a reveal.

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knightmare
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Toadbert wrote:
Just remembered something I was wondering:

Why were Tim's headlights on before he got in his car?


I'm guessing Tim got so excited about seeing Alex that he forgot to turn them off before going to 'almost' confront him.

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Amethyst.64
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I'm quite disappointed by this entry, nothing new. Yeah, the fire was really cool, but the entry as a whole was just filler, nice to see, but ultimately unnecessary, I don't think it was worth the 1 month+ Wait, not sure what I wanted though, cos I certainly don't want it to end

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adaminator1
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Amethyst.64 wrote:
I'm quite disappointed by this entry, nothing new. Yeah, the fire was really cool, but the entry as a whole was just filler, nice to see, but ultimately unnecessary, I don't think it was worth the 1 month+ Wait, not sure what I wanted though, cos I certainly don't want it to end


This Entry is not filler. This reveals (Through thematic implications) that it was Alex who bought down Jay's house. This gives Tim reason to SEEK OUT Alex instead of sitting on his hands like a good boy. And this dumps more reason for Tim to hate Alex through Alex burning down Tim's entire house with everything in it. If you think that equates this to filler, then you need to rethink your understanding of a story narrative. An entry doesn't have to be "BIG WOW OMG SUPER PUMPED STUFF HAPPENING LEFT RIGHT AND CENTRE" in order for it to not be filler.

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BlankSlate
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Jesus nothing pleases some of you guys, the waits can be annoying, but this was a really great entry imo, and it sets up for the next one to be epic.

TO probably latched onto Alex because he was easy to crack mentally, with Tim being on meds and believing he was just a schizo, it made him that much harder to manipulate. Tim was fine until Marble Hornets started as far as we know.

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Amethyst.64
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Please, I never said needed to be filled with action, my favourite entries are the quiet and intriguing one.
I'm just saying that we 'learned' Alex wants to kill Tim (any means possible) and Tim wants to kill Alex. Both these we already knew. It's given Tim more reason to want to, but he seemed pretty determined already.
I just don't think this entry advanced the plot very much.

And 'nothing pleases me' I've loved other entries, and this is the only one (from memory) I've criticised. 'Nothing pleases everyone' is more accurate, and true.

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