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Clairabel
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Lithp wrote:
I thought it was a nice juxtaposition, since HABIT has made it a point that he doesn't give 2 shits about people insulting him. Because it has no effect on him. But something about what Vince said actually took something that HABIT wanted.


If this is the kind of thing that sets him off, then he has the temper of a toddler - and that is frightening.
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Habit is a control freak. He loves being able to get everyone around him to do exactly what he wants, whether he's inhabiting them or not. This is why what Vinny did angered him so much.
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Clairabel wrote:
Lithp wrote:
I thought it was a nice juxtaposition, since HABIT has made it a point that he doesn't give 2 shits about people insulting him. Because it has no effect on him. But something about what Vince said actually took something that HABIT wanted.


If this is the kind of thing that sets him off, then he has the temper of a toddler - and that is frightening.


It's a great juxtaposition - the seemingly all-powerful evil is actually very weak-minded when it lets its guard down. Many depictions of the devil have been this way; the first one that springs to my mind is in CS Lewis' Perelandra though there are certainly others.

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Okay. I'm going to ask a few questions. I'm sorry if they've already been addressed, but I'm really not up to reading through god-knows how many pages of bickering over the crossovers again to find them. So:

1) Have we confirmed that it was Shawn in the bathroom during "Severance"?

2) Has HABIT repossessed Evan, or did these latest videos take place before he departed?

3) How long after the previous video did this one happen? I ask because when the door is open the weather looks pretty nice, but in the previous one it was cold enough in the attic to make their (HABIT and Shawn's) breath frost in the air. And when Shawn first shows up (before Vinny drugs him) he's dressed for cold weather. Did HABIT keep him prisoner for a long time before interrogating and killing him?

This made me think of something I found interesting: in the video with Shawn, HABIT is wearing a big jacket. Was that just for his comfort, or does he actually need protection from the cold (like we do)? Is this a clue that HABIT isn't as powerful as he would have us believe?

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If this is the kind of thing that sets him off, then he has the temper of a toddler - and that is frightening.


Come to think of it, yeah, he does. But it gives me the image of something like this:

HABIT: Clean up those bodies!

Vin: Now, HABIT, big-boy demons use them as proxies--

HABIT: I SAID CLEAN UP THOSE BODIES!!!!

Vin: Yes, but responsibility-

(HABIT throws hissy fit)

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3) How long after the previous video did this one happen? I ask because when the door is open the weather looks pretty nice, but in the previous one it was cold enough in the attic to make their (HABIT and Shawn's) breath frost in the air. And when Shawn first shows up (before Vinny drugs him) he's dressed for cold weather. Did HABIT him prisoner for a long time before interrogating and killing him?


As for someone who lives in northeastern USA, that's actually how the weather's been. As you see in the previous MLA videos, this happens probably somewhere in winter. Or March. Either way, spring literally just came around a few weeks ago. Before that, it was pretty much autumn. I believe these videos are in order, and I really don't see a reason why they wouldn't.

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I think what everyone is forgetting is that Habit may now be able to not only mess with space/distance but, within a limited way, time as well.

I don't know how many people have seen the recent crossover videos, but I do know that Habit delivered a freshly-dead Stormy into the back of Shaun's car nearly a year after she originally died. When he kicked Noah out of his house, the date was September 29, when, for Noah, it was actually December.

And earlier in the series Habit put up lots of videos showing events that haven't happened yet or at all...I guess originally people thought Slenderman was doing that, but maybe Habit had a hand in it as well. Maybe the only reason Habit was working for/with Slenderman in the beginning was to learn his tricks, so to speak.

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Cyan507
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This made me think of something I found interesting: in the video with Shawn, HABIT is wearing a big jacket. Was that just for his comfort, or does he actually need protection from the cold (like we do)? Is this a clue that HABIT isn't as powerful as he would have us believe?


It may be both, he wears it quite often. And although he may be a evil-demon thing at the end of the day he's only possessing the body of a simple human being, which might be prone to the cold like any other human. Or it could be a peacock technique and used to intimidate by making himself look bigger. An unlikely scenario but given that the host (Evan) isn't particularly tall it might be a reason.

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And earlier in the series Habit put up lots of videos showing events that haven't happened yet or at all


yep, still waiting on that underwater vid

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As for someone who lives in northeastern USA, that's actually how the weather's been. As you see in the previous MLA videos, this happens probably somewhere in winter. Or March. Either way, spring literally just came around a few weeks ago.


Lousy Smarch weather...

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It seems HABIT really doesn't like the idea of people offing themselves. Vinny suggests offing himself, HABIT goes nuts, Noah says something similar in TT's Bridge to Nowhere, HABIT goes nuts.

Is it just a case of HABIT not wanting people ruining his fun or..?

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Well if Iteration theory is correct maybe HABIT also goes through iterations, and possibly his plans are disrupted with every new iteration?
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So, I've been kind of rewatching the series, and reading the threads here for the first time. First off, holy shit, folks be crazy. Like, seriously.

Now. In "The Property" what did Dr. C tell Vinny about the 'monsters'? "Don't trust them, don't help them, don't try to fight them." (bolding mine) He recommended Vinny duck his head and run the other way. What's Vinny been doing for months? Exactly the opposite. And he might have just broken the third rule when he finally took a stand.

Another point. I don't know what all the talk of Firebrands, Voyeurs, and Guardians was all about. I do know that this forum was hell-bent on Vinny being the Voyeur. But in the video "Lexi", HABIT says explicitly that Vinny is the Guardian. And tells him "just keep Guardianing". But then he put Vinny in a position, for months, where he was doing the exact opposite of that. Why? Plus, when Vinny does finally say "no more", I suspect we may be wrong about why he's so pissed about it. It might not be the idea that Vinny might kill himself; HABIT's angry about Vinny's Guardian nature finally reasserting itself and fucking up whatever HABIT's plan was. That might be why he was ranting something about being "so close".

My final point. SlenderMan seemed to have a special interest in Vinny. Why? And since the events of "The Property" and spending so much time in HABIT's company, has Vinny had any contact with Slendy at all?

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SignerJ
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RevDickJenkins wrote:
It seems HABIT really doesn't like the idea of people offing themselves. Vinny suggests offing himself, HABIT goes nuts, Noah says something similar in TT's Bridge to Nowhere, HABIT goes nuts.

Is it just a case of HABIT not wanting people ruining his fun or..?


It might be that suicide is the one thing that he doesn't have control over. When he is interrogating/torturing people, he has complete control over the entire situation. However, suicide, as you said, completely robs him of his fun, and of his control.

This is interesting because we know that Tall and Faceless is able to prevent people from dying from suicide. You would think that because of his partner's ability, he wouldn't care if people try to kill themselves or not...

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Another point. I don't know what all the talk of Firebrands, Voyeurs, and Guardians was all about. I do know that this forum was hell-bent on Vinny being the Voyeur. But in the video "Lexi", HABIT says explicitly that Vinny is the Guardian. And tells him "just keep Guardianing". But then he put Vinny in a position, for months, where he was doing the exact opposite of that. Why? Plus, when Vinny does finally say "no more", I suspect we may be wrong about why he's so pissed about it. It might not be the idea that Vinny might kill himself; HABIT's angry about Vinny's Guardian nature finally reasserting itself and fucking up whatever HABIT's plan was. That might be why he was ranting something about being "so close".


My main problem with this theory is that it relies completely on the idea that HABIT is telling the truth. It is very well possible that HABIT is telling Vinnie that he is the Guardian just so that he can distract Vinnie from his position as the Voyeur.

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I don't think it's the suicide itself that sets Habit off. I think it's the self-sacrificing aspect. Habit is "humanity's bad habit." Everything that it does is to serve itself. Not only that, the people that he doesn't outright kill, he pushes to become more selfish & ruthless.

"But haven't we already seen the boys being selfless?" you might ask. Well, have we really? They've been focused on survival. Sure, they didn't WANT people to get hurt & they didn't ENJOY it, but they've known for a while that people around them were being targeted & they didn't so much as try to cut themselves off from society. And many of the past entries have been pointing out that surrounding yourself with other targets helps you survive Slenderman longer.

Remember, Vince didn't exactly tell Habit that he wanted to kill himself, what he technically said was that he cared more for the safety of others than his own.

Last but certainly not least, if this is true, it wouldn't matter whether or not Habit can control Vince or Noah or anyone else. It's the mere principle that offends him so.

Also, I can't resist pointing out that we know that the bolding wasn't part of the doctor's speech, because you can't bold sounds.

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Not only that, the people that he doesn't outright kill, he pushes to become more selfish & ruthless.


Have to disagree with this, the people he doesn't kill he whittles down their will and stamina by torturing them mentally. He takes away everything they have. Like he did in "Very Happy" or "GOODBYE". If he doesn't/can't kill them, he makes them wish they were dead, which is to some degree worse.
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"But haven't we already seen the boys being selfless?" you might ask. Well, have we really? They've been focused on survival. Sure, they didn't WANT people to get hurt & they didn't ENJOY it, but they've known for a while that people around them were being targeted & they didn't so much as try to cut themselves off from society. And many of the past entries have been pointing out that surrounding yourself with other targets helps you survive Slenderman longer.


I'm not sure how aware they were of this though. I've a feeling that if they knew that the people around them would have been targeted I'm sure they would have cut themselves off although it did kind of look like they did that. The only real contacts they kept were people who could potentially help them, and Daniel.

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Remember, Vince didn't exactly tell Habit that he wanted to kill himself, what he technically said was that he cared more for the safety of others than his own.


"I'd rather die." It was a rather stern ultimatum to give to a mass murderer.

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Have to disagree with this, the people he doesn't kill he whittles down their will and stamina by torturing them mentally. He takes away everything they have. Like he did in "Very Happy" or "GOODBYE". If he doesn't/can't kill them, he makes them wish they were dead, which is to some degree worse.


He did kill Jeff. Or gave him to Slenderman. Whatever happened, it's clear that the goal was to take him out.

Now, if you look at Vince & Noah, I think those cases basically speak for themselves.

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I'm not sure how aware they were of this though. I've a feeling that if they knew that the people around them would have been targeted I'm sure they would have cut themselves off although it did kind of look like they did that. The only real contacts they kept were people who could potentially help them, and Daniel.


Denial is basically deluding oneself into believing what one wants to believe. It was pretty obvious & they surely had other people pointing it out. Similar situation to Evan being HABIT. They were made aware of what was going on very early in the game, but convinced themselves that it wasn't true.

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Lithp wrote:
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Have to disagree with this, the people he doesn't kill he whittles down their will and stamina by torturing them mentally. He takes away everything they have. Like he did in "Very Happy" or "GOODBYE". If he doesn't/can't kill them, he makes them wish they were dead, which is to some degree worse.


He did kill Jeff. Or gave him to Slenderman. Whatever happened, it's clear that the goal was to take him out.

Now, if you look at Vince & Noah, I think those cases basically speak for themselves.

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I'm not sure how aware they were of this though. I've a feeling that if they knew that the people around them would have been targeted I'm sure they would have cut themselves off although it did kind of look like they did that. The only real contacts they kept were people who could potentially help them, and Daniel.


Denial is basically deluding oneself into believing what one wants to believe. It was pretty obvious & they surely had other people pointing it out. Similar situation to Evan being HABIT. They were made aware of what was going on very early in the game, but convinced themselves that it wasn't true.


But he drew out Jeff's death, he said himself about breaking Jeff. He needed to kill him inside first. And yes the Vinny and Noah cases are totally separate, though it would appear HABIT needs both of them for whatever reason.

While it was being made obvious I don't remember many people IG pointing it out, and most of the instances of Evan being heavily hinted of being inHABITed were made earlier but in hidden/Morse videos, which they never saw.

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