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Entry 83's Hoody teases....
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Dacad
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Entry 83's Hoody teases....

In Entry 72, we saw the unthinkable. Tim was able to stand up to the Operator and drive it away. The reason he did this, rather than run away like any sane person has done in the series, is obvious: he was trying to protect Jay. After Entry 72, we saw the Operator begin to warp Jay and turn him against Tim, leading up to Entry 80, where Jay was killed.

So, to recap, Tim was able to (sorta) fight the Operator using the Power of Friendship. So the Operator took away his friend.

Which brings us to Entry 83. At first, I was annoyed by the constant Hoody teases. But then I thought about what Tim said after watching the tape. "I don't know what I would have done if I had known it was Brian who fell from that ledge". Why didn't Tim know that was Brian? Because every time he came close to finding out, the Operator wouldn't let him. Had Tim known that was Brian, we might have seen a repeat of Entry 72, where the Operator was forced away, and Tim tried to reconcile with Brian.

What do you guys think? Solid theory, baseless speculation full of holes, or somewhere in between?

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It makes sense.
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Geneaux486
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Like isolation is the Operator's greatest weapon? I had never thought of it like that, but I really like your theory, and I'm starting to hope it winds up being true. Would lead us to rethink a lot of the past encounters. I guess Mask-Tim and Hood-Brian working together wasn't about true friendship in their crazed states, since they weren't afforded the ability to resist the Operator. Then again, maybe that's why they were able to escape together all those times.

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hachiman
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You mean the friendship was like a weakness for Tim?

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Ascalondion
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hachiman wrote:
You mean the friendship was like a weakness for Tim?


No, that's Tim's superpower. That's the reason TO wanted to keep Brians identity from Tim, so that he can't fight him with the power of love.

Although I still go with the magic pills that made Tim withstand TOs power in #72, I actually like this idea and will keep it in mind when I watch the next entry...sooon....

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Re: Entry 83's Hoody teases....

Dacad wrote:
In Entry 72, we saw the unthinkable. Tim was able to stand up to the Operator and drive it away. The reason he did this, rather than run away like any sane person has done in the series, is obvious: he was trying to protect Jay. After Entry 72, we saw the Operator begin to warp Jay and turn him against Tim, leading up to Entry 80, where Jay was killed.

So, to recap, Tim was able to (sorta) fight the Operator using the Power of Friendship. So the Operator took away his friend.

Which brings us to Entry 83. At first, I was annoyed by the constant Hoody teases. But then I thought about what Tim said after watching the tape. "I don't know what I would have done if I had known it was Brian who fell from that ledge". Why didn't Tim know that was Brian? Because every time he came close to finding out, the Operator wouldn't let him. Had Tim known that was Brian, we might have seen a repeat of Entry 72, where the Operator was forced away, and Tim tried to reconcile with Brian.

What do you guys think? Solid theory, baseless speculation full of holes, or somewhere in between?


If my Little Pony has taught us anything it's that friendship is magic and magic has no place in this series.

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Osttle
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Next timE I rewatch MH I'll keep this in mind
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Alex and Tim are going to do a secret friendship handshake that sends the Operator back in the telephone he came from.

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lonsumtravlr
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Re: Entry 83's Hoody teases....

Dacad wrote:
In Entry 72, we saw the unthinkable. Tim was able to stand up to the Operator and drive it away. The reason he did this, rather than run away like any sane person has done in the series, is obvious: he was trying to protect Jay. After Entry 72, we saw the Operator begin to warp Jay and turn him against Tim, leading up to Entry 80, where Jay was killed.

So, to recap, Tim was able to (sorta) fight the Operator using the Power of Friendship. So the Operator took away his friend.

Which brings us to Entry 83. At first, I was annoyed by the constant Hoody teases. But then I thought about what Tim said after watching the tape. "I don't know what I would have done if I had known it was Brian who fell from that ledge". Why didn't Tim know that was Brian? Because every time he came close to finding out, the Operator wouldn't let him. Had Tim known that was Brian, we might have seen a repeat of Entry 72, where the Operator was forced away, and Tim tried to reconcile with Brian.

What do you guys think? Solid theory, baseless speculation full of holes, or somewhere in between?


I don't think it's all far off, but it doesn't negate the effectiveness of the pills in warding of TO. It's clear that Hoody needed them too in order to keep TO at bay, or at least to calm whatever the Slendy Sickness effect was). You're definitely right that friendship's important in the series, especially as it combats isolation--and I think you're right that TO's stronger when a target is isolated. But Entry #84 shows two individuals--Tim and Alex--who are (or seem) very different from their MH and post-MH project lives. Tim lacks confidence (and sideburns). Alex fakes confidence but is dejected that no one but his friend comes to the audition. Brian is the link with both, and he not only has a strong connection with Tim but also reaches out to Alex to try to get him to come out to dinner with them.

Plus then I want to go back to Entry #12, which shows a shoot in which Alex seems like a humane director and everyone seems to be getting along OK, and then TO shows up anyway. There's no isolation and no apparent loss of friendship--so it again begs the question: What happened after the camerawoman stopped filming?

Still, you may just be right that there was something additional that caused TO to leave them alone. (Maybe this concern for Jay changed something in Tim's connection with TO, too? Because as far as we know, despite the warping and the chasing in Entry#83 [which I honestly think Alex had a hand in], TO has not come after Tim since Entry #72.)

So I guess this is somewhere in between solid and not so solid speculation, but I don't think it's baseless or full of holes.

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