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[MOVIE] The Operator
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fanofslender
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my big caveat about the operator (as a movie, and also as a character in the movie) is that this was an "unfinished" cut. they almost always say that at these early screenings, and usually not a whole lot changes, but there is definitely lee-way in there for them to add visual effects that boost the presence a little bit.

from the cut I saw, I didn't get the impression that there were any major effects left unfinished (and the final scene seemed totally finished, and definitely used some practical and cg effects -- it was definitely well done).


WARNING: SPOILERS AHEAD -- I won't ruin any big moments, but if you don't want to know anything, don't look.

TheJoker wrote:


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Is the dog the villain?



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ha ha, is this an inside joke from the series? no, the dog isn't the villain. he does die, though. it happens during a scene when everyone's in a van on a road trip. if I remember correctly the operator causes one of the main characters to kill him :'(


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More seriously, try and think back to it and consider it as simply a film about the main protagonists rather than a horror film about the Operator. Do you feel that the main characters' arcs were at least resolved reasonably satisfyingly?

And if you went in with neither any prior knowledge of MH nor any preconceived notion that you were going to watch a "scary" movie, what would your general opinion have been?



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I definitely think marble hornets (and most slenderverse stuff) is based more on slow-burn, psychological horror as opposed to jump scares. part of what made MH so creepy for me was the austere atmosphere, and the text narration. I think it's hard to watch a found footage movie and not immediately associate it with "horror", so even if I knew nothing about slenderman I would've been expecting something scary.

there is a mystery element to the movie, but from what I know of the series (with masky, the dolls, teleportation, etc.) the creep factor is much higher, and there's more of a puzzle that you're trying to piece together.


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like I said, it's about a news team that discovers a box of home videos in an abandoned house. the rest of the movie is about piecing together what happened to them, and--once they start to notice the operator--what supernatural forces are involved.

once they spot the operator, that's when they become "marked" and have to face him firsthand. that urges them to solve the "mystery" of the missing family even more, so they can figure out what the operator does to his victims, and how to stop him.

anyone with a passing knowledge of the slenderverse and MH will know most of the details that they spend the whole movie figuring out, so for me, it wasn't a very surprising or compelling investigation to watch.


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And a slightly more spoilery one you may be less willing to discuss- was there, as in MH, a more human antagonist in addition to the Operator?


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not really -- only in that the two main male characters have a bit of a rivalry going on, and this gets really heated whenever the operator is around. it's supposed to be that he's turning them against each other, and playing on their weaknesses.

The dad of the missing family turns out to be a bit "villainous", but again, the stuff he does is a direct result of being under the operator's power.


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TheJoker wrote:


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Is the dog the villain?




Ever since you and I got onto our Silent Hill ending obsession you've stuck with that theory. I love it.

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fanofslender wrote:
is this an inside joke from the series?

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Not exactly. It's more of a running joke among a few specific people in the fanbase, particularly in the Hub. Or at least, it's a joke that I am fond of making whenever given the opportunity. The joke was, for my part at least, initially derived from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaN0z2ZuP_s (That's Joseph's actual dog, Rocky, which is also the name of the dog Alex once mentioned having in the early entries)

and also partially from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUDcSeUvkOw


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(actual plot details regarding the dog)

...Well. I can't say I expected an actual spoiler-ish response to a joke question like that. I... wow. Didn't really see that coming.


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I think it's hard to watch a found footage movie and not immediately associate it with "horror", so even if I knew nothing about slenderman I would've been expecting something scary.

there is a mystery element to the movie, but from what I know of the series (with masky, the dolls, teleportation, etc.) the creep factor is much higher, and there's more of a puzzle that you're trying to piece together.

That... partially answers my question, I guess? I can't quite tell if, in the last sentence, you are referring to the actual movie's creep factor, or MH's own creep factor. But the part you didn't really answer was, if you looked at it as more of a film about the protagonists and the human characters rather than a film about the Operator, would that in any way change how you judged the movie?


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anyone with a passing knowledge of the slenderverse and MH will know most of the details that they spend the whole movie figuring out, so for me, it wasn't a very surprising or compelling investigation to watch.

Considering that the Slenderverse fanbase is still relatively small overall, I'd personally consider a "passing knowledge" to be what those who don't watch the shows or read the blogs would know of it, which would probably be either nothing or what one can gather from The Eight Pages game. And all the game really tells you about the Slender Man itself is that it's a bad thing which does stuff. So, if they were to market this well enough that it's watched by an audience beyond the actual MH and TSM fanbase, I doubt that that aspect's going to be as much of a problem for most viewers.

I think you mentioned that you didn't watch most of the later seasons of the series, so it's probably worth noting that even us hardcore fans of MH here still have only a very limited idea about what TO does to its victims, which you mentioned as one of the mysteries they try to solve. Just putting that out there.

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Yeah, that's basically what I was wondering.
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I didn't mean that said human antagonist had to be independent of TO- indeed, in MH, the main human villain seemingly fits the same description you gave.


Side note, I meant that as more of a yes-or-no question- wasn't necessarily asking for full plot details. It doesn't seem like anyone's in a rush to come after you about an NDA violation considering there were some plot details even in your first review, but technically some of your answers were spoilers (hence why I didn't quote them directly) and, assuming you indeed saw this, I'm not sure you should be putting those up here. You may want to consider slightly editing the answers in your first and last spoiler tags, specifically.

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TITLE CARD: Mosaic Pictures presents

(Dark, eriee noises can heard fading in)

TITLE CARD: Based on the online series by Troy Wagner and Joseph Delage

(The sounds fade out)

CUT TO: A camera left on the table faces a television set, not capturing the entire screen, but a majority of it. A news broadcast is being held and the anchor is heading the headlines.

ANCHOR: The body of twenty-seven year old Alex Kralie was found in a disused college on South Creek Road this morning by a caretaker. For more on this we go to our reporter in the field, what can you tell us?

TITLE CARD: Directed by James Moran

The news report goes to a reporter outside the college grounds, with various shots shown of a body being taken away by police and crime scene analysts marking the area.

REPORTER: Yes well as you can see they've sealed off the campus to the general public and are now analyzing the scene to try and establish what happened here.

ANCHOR: And have they made any statements as of yet?

TITLE CARD: Executive producer Craig Connolly

REPORTER: Yes, earlier the local Sheriff said they were treating the death as suspicious and viscous.

ANCHOR: So they're not ruling out murder?

TITLE CARD: Cinematography by Ulf Soderqvist

REPORTER: No, but they're interested in speaking with a man seen recently in the area, he's described as being over 5 foot, black hair and regular build. Earlier I spoke with the caretaker about the scene.

Footage shown of a brief interview done with the caretaker.

CARETAKER: Well I was just tidin' up and found that one of the buildin's was open n' I thought Jacob had left it open...when he said he didn't I got mighty suspicious y'know, you don't get much folk comin' here nowadays. I went lookin' around to see if anyone was in there...

REPORTER: And that's when you found him?

TITLE CARD: Screenplay by Ian Shorr

CARETAKER: Yeah, first I thought he was another boy that was here a few months ago, was looking for the film department or somethin'.....

REPORTER: That was earlier when I spoke with the caretaker. The police have taken the body to the local hospital and a postmortem will be carried out by the local state pathologists tomorrow afternoon. For more on the case, keeping watchi-(a hand comes in and picks up the camera on the table, the handling disrupts the audio and the camera operator puts the camera on himself)

TITLE CARD: RICK OTTO

CAMERA OPERATOR: Hey, turns out it was on the whole time!

(A woman from a room behind him calls out to him)

WOMAN: But was it charging?

CAMERA OPERATOR: Yeah, left the tv on too.

TITLE CARD: Doug Jones

WOMAN: Anything good on?

CAMERA OPERATOR: Dunno, news is on, they found some guy dead in your old college I think.

WOMAN: You serious?

The camera operator turns the camera to the woman walking into the room.

TITLE CARD: Blair Bomar

WOMAN: Hey, get that thing out of my face! I don't want a camera pointed a me 24-7, there's some whackos out there.

The cameraman points the camera back at the television.

CAMERA OPERATOR: There sure are.

CUT TO BLACK:

TITLE CARD: THE OPERATOR
---------------------------------------


Clearly there are some inconsistencies here, as Alex was taken away by TO but imagine if you would that he was dropped off again like all the other bodies?

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I need to see this movie!! Any release date yet?
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Cyan, I love your set up. But one problem: I'm fairly sure that Jacob is dead. This isn't confirmed, but I suspect, as do some others, that he found Alex tied up, untied him, and was killed just like Bruce.

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Did anyone else get the gist that Tim talking about there being "hundreds of others -- thousands" in Entry #86 was hinting at this movie being set in the same universe, you know, as a huge set-up for it?
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evanx275h wrote:
Did anyone else get the gist that Tim talking about there being "hundreds of others -- thousands" in Entry #86 was hinting at this movie being set in the same universe, you know, as a huge set-up for it?


I wouldn't be surprised if the movie follows "fans" of MH that start being followed by TO too.

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censura_umbra wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if the movie follows "fans" of MH that start being followed by TO too.


Good thing none of us watched that cursed youtube series then right?

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ReverendJ wrote:
censura_umbra wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if the movie follows "fans" of MH that start being followed by TO too.


Good thing none of us watched that cursed youtube series then right?


What the Hell is Marble Hornets? Who the Hell are you people? Where the Hell am I? What the Hell day is it? Who the Hell is that guy in the nice suit, & why the Hell is he going into my forest?

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Lithp wrote:
ReverendJ wrote:
censura_umbra wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if the movie follows "fans" of MH that start being followed by TO too.


Good thing none of us watched that cursed youtube series then right?


What the Hell is Marble Hornets? Who the Hell are you people? Where the Hell am I? What the Hell day is it? Who the Hell is that guy in the nice suit, & why the Hell is he going into my forest?


I think it's a guy who posts here....

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Cyan507 wrote:
TITLE CARD: Mosaic Pictures presents

(Dark, eriee noises can heard fading in)

TITLE CARD: Based on the online series by Troy Wagner and Joseph Delage

(The sounds fade out)

CUT TO: A camera left on the table faces a television set, not capturing the entire screen, but a majority of it. A news broadcast is being held and the anchor is heading the headlines.

ANCHOR: The body of twenty-seven year old Alex Kralie was found in a disused college on South Creek Road this morning by a caretaker. For more on this we go to our reporter in the field, what can you tell us?

TITLE CARD: Directed by James Moran

The news report goes to a reporter outside the college grounds, with various shots shown of a body being taken away by police and crime scene analysts marking the area.

REPORTER: Yes well as you can see they've sealed off the campus to the general public and are now analyzing the scene to try and establish what happened here.

ANCHOR: And have they made any statements as of yet?

TITLE CARD: Executive producer Craig Connolly

REPORTER: Yes, earlier the local Sheriff said they were treating the death as suspicious and viscous.

ANCHOR: So they're not ruling out murder?

TITLE CARD: Cinematography by Ulf Soderqvist

REPORTER: No, but they're interested in speaking with a man seen recently in the area, he's described as being over 5 foot, black hair and regular build. Earlier I spoke with the caretaker about the scene.

Footage shown of a brief interview done with the caretaker.

CARETAKER: Well I was just tidin' up and found that one of the buildin's was open n' I thought Jacob had left it open...when he said he didn't I got mighty suspicious y'know, you don't get much folk comin' here nowadays. I went lookin' around to see if anyone was in there...

REPORTER: And that's when you found him?

TITLE CARD: Screenplay by Ian Shorr

CARETAKER: Yeah, first I thought he was another boy that was here a few months ago, was looking for the film department or somethin'.....

REPORTER: That was earlier when I spoke with the caretaker. The police have taken the body to the local hospital and a postmortem will be carried out by the local state pathologists tomorrow afternoon. For more on the case, keeping watchi-(a hand comes in and picks up the camera on the table, the handling disrupts the audio and the camera operator puts the camera on himself)

TITLE CARD: RICK OTTO

CAMERA OPERATOR: Hey, turns out it was on the whole time!

(A woman from a room behind him calls out to him)

WOMAN: But was it charging?

CAMERA OPERATOR: Yeah, left the tv on too.

TITLE CARD: Doug Jones

WOMAN: Anything good on?

CAMERA OPERATOR: Dunno, news is on, they found some guy dead in your old college I think.

WOMAN: You serious?

The camera operator turns the camera to the woman walking into the room.

TITLE CARD: Blair Bomar

WOMAN: Hey, get that thing out of my face! I don't want a camera pointed a me 24-7, there's some whackos out there.

The cameraman points the camera back at the television.

CAMERA OPERATOR: There sure are.

CUT TO BLACK:

TITLE CARD: THE OPERATOR
---------------------------------------


Clearly there are some inconsistencies here, as Alex was taken away by TO but imagine if you would that he was dropped off again like all the other bodies?


Just want to ask something. Is this real or you just make it up?

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Well if there's been test screenings we should be getting a trailer pretty soon right? (: Frankly the trailer's probably going to be what makes me decide to see it or not

Any word on what it's actually going to be called? Probably not 'Marble Hornets', right?

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leadmetodeath wrote:
Cyan507 wrote:
TITLE CARD: Mosaic Pictures presents

(Dark, eriee noises can heard fading in)

TITLE CARD: Based on the online series by Troy Wagner and Joseph Delage

(The sounds fade out)

CUT TO: A camera left on the table faces a television set, not capturing the entire screen, but a majority of it. A news broadcast is being held and the anchor is heading the headlines.

ANCHOR: The body of twenty-seven year old Alex Kralie was found in a disused college on South Creek Road this morning by a caretaker. For more on this we go to our reporter in the field, what can you tell us?

TITLE CARD: Directed by James Moran

The news report goes to a reporter outside the college grounds, with various shots shown of a body being taken away by police and crime scene analysts marking the area.

REPORTER: Yes well as you can see they've sealed off the campus to the general public and are now analyzing the scene to try and establish what happened here.

ANCHOR: And have they made any statements as of yet?

TITLE CARD: Executive producer Craig Connolly

REPORTER: Yes, earlier the local Sheriff said they were treating the death as suspicious and viscous.

ANCHOR: So they're not ruling out murder?

TITLE CARD: Cinematography by Ulf Soderqvist

REPORTER: No, but they're interested in speaking with a man seen recently in the area, he's described as being over 5 foot, black hair and regular build. Earlier I spoke with the caretaker about the scene.

Footage shown of a brief interview done with the caretaker.

CARETAKER: Well I was just tidin' up and found that one of the buildin's was open n' I thought Jacob had left it open...when he said he didn't I got mighty suspicious y'know, you don't get much folk comin' here nowadays. I went lookin' around to see if anyone was in there...

REPORTER: And that's when you found him?

TITLE CARD: Screenplay by Ian Shorr

CARETAKER: Yeah, first I thought he was another boy that was here a few months ago, was looking for the film department or somethin'.....

REPORTER: That was earlier when I spoke with the caretaker. The police have taken the body to the local hospital and a postmortem will be carried out by the local state pathologists tomorrow afternoon. For more on the case, keeping watchi-(a hand comes in and picks up the camera on the table, the handling disrupts the audio and the camera operator puts the camera on himself)

TITLE CARD: RICK OTTO

CAMERA OPERATOR: Hey, turns out it was on the whole time!

(A woman from a room behind him calls out to him)

WOMAN: But was it charging?

CAMERA OPERATOR: Yeah, left the tv on too.

TITLE CARD: Doug Jones

WOMAN: Anything good on?

CAMERA OPERATOR: Dunno, news is on, they found some guy dead in your old college I think.

WOMAN: You serious?

The camera operator turns the camera to the woman walking into the room.

TITLE CARD: Blair Bomar

WOMAN: Hey, get that thing out of my face! I don't want a camera pointed a me 24-7, there's some whackos out there.

The cameraman points the camera back at the television.

CAMERA OPERATOR: There sure are.

CUT TO BLACK:

TITLE CARD: THE OPERATOR
---------------------------------------


Clearly there are some inconsistencies here, as Alex was taken away by TO but imagine if you would that he was dropped off again like all the other bodies?


Just want to ask something. Is this real or you just make it up?


Made it up, I study film and screenwriting so I know the lingo and format.

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With all the bad press Slenderman has been getting lately, I truly doubt this movie will be hitting theaters anytime soon. It would most likely be seen as innapropriate, to say the least.

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