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Rain71
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In the newest posdcast they mention that Joseph wants to get a mohawk after MH is over. This means that MH isn't over, or else he would be getting a mohawk.


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Geneaux486
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Alex doesn't say the words "alive" "he" or "him"


Yes he does.

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Dacad
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 		Regarding the debate about whether the Operator made Alex kill people or not, I would say it did. The Operator affects people's minds; we've seen that much. And Jay's mind was also affected for the worse. He was on his way to being like Alex.

As for why Alex went around killing people and others didn't, Alex probably had the worst Operator exposure. Alex is the one who deliberately tried to find the Operator and learn about it. Tim was followed since childhood, but Alex is the one who, to quote a video game written by Trosephim, let it in.

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censura_umbra
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Geneaux486 wrote:
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Alex doesn't say the words "alive" "he" or "him"


Yes he does.


If he does, he doesn't say it while he is choking on his own blood. He says "If there's someone left, you have to kill them, and then yourself."

Could still be construed to mean that Alex though Tim meant that Alex missed someone other than Tim, and so as he was dying Alex told Tim "if you are right you have to kill them"

But I think it is much more likely that Tim threw the fact that Alex wasn't able to kill Tim and that led to Alex's death as a witty one liner.

And Alex's death line was an explanation of why he did this (to spell it out to the casual viewer) and setting up the next plot point: Does Tim kill himself to "end" it?

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Geneaux486
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censura_umbra wrote:
"If there's someone left, you have to kill them, and then yourself."


I've listened closely to it repeatedly, and I do not hear that at all. I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.

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Geneaux486 wrote:
censura_umbra wrote:
"If there's someone left, you have to kill them, and then yourself."


I've listened closely to it repeatedly, and I do not hear that at all. I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.


It's there. What's less clear is what he meant by that. Was he just justifying his past actions or is there someone he didn't kill yet?

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gennerx wrote:
Geneaux486 wrote:
censura_umbra wrote:
"If there's someone left, you have to kill them, and then yourself."


I've listened closely to it repeatedly, and I do not hear that at all. I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.


It's there. What's less clear is what he meant by that. Was he just justifying his past actions or is there someone he didn't kill yet?


I know he says something, I'm saying that instead of saying "If there's someone left", he's saying "If he's still alive".

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Geneaux486 wrote:
gennerx wrote:
Geneaux486 wrote:
censura_umbra wrote:
"If there's someone left, you have to kill them, and then yourself."


I've listened closely to it repeatedly, and I do not hear that at all. I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.


It's there. What's less clear is what he meant by that. Was he just justifying his past actions or is there someone he didn't kill yet?


I know he says something, I'm saying that instead of saying "If there's someone left", he's saying "If he's still alive".


I heard alive. But only when I jumped into halfway through the line. I went back to the beginning of his line and tried to force myself to hear the word alive and it just didn't happen. But I can understand why you heard it that way.

Can anyone isolate that line and make it a little clearer?

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The only reason Tim would be dead is that something happened to him that wasn't clearly shown or denoted in the video, which I just can't believe. It seems silly that this is even being debated.

OVERDOSING IS A THING
The guy just ate the WHOLE BOTTLE of whatever the pills are. It's a very common form of suicide. Don't say "there's no reason for Tim to be dead" after you watched him take 20 unidentified pills. Unless the stuff is vitamin C, there's a really high chance that he could have died from ODing.

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Before people go to town with the belief that someone other than Tim uploaded this, consider the following:

Tim could have been in a rush to upload this, or he may been tired from his ordeal, thus being why the tweet was unsigned as well as the video description.


Then why were there several time lapses in the first few minutes of the video, when he was entering Benedict Hall? If Tim was in such a rush that he couldn't throw in a "Oh yeah, I survived" slide, a time lapse to show him getting up, or sign the tweet, then why would he have the time to meticulously choose certain parts of the recording to cut out in order to save the viewers' time?

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There's also a third possibility that Tim went Masky after losing consciousness and uploaded it in that state. He's hasn't appeared in a long time and Tim is now completely deprived of medicine.


That is possible, but I find it hard to imagine Masky uploading a video to YouTube.

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 		Okay, I took Alex's last line. Used some noise canceling to get rid of some camera shaking sound, slowed it down so you can hear how many syllables he is using and cut out some annoying coughing.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1uATqQtyi4O

When he says "If there's someone left" The last word has one syllable. If you don't hear "left" fine, I guess. but "alive" is two syllables so, it definitely isn't that.

As for he/him. He doesn't say that, but if he did. That would mean he knows their gender. If he knows their gender, why wouldn't he say "If he is left/alive" instead of "someone"

The word someone implies a lack of familiarity or a generalization.

Ie: Someone stole the cookie from the cookie jar. Or Someone would have to learn to read before responding to this post.

Alex is not familiar with the subject of his statement. Meaning, he doesn't know the gender of the subject, which is why he doesn't use a gender pronoun.

And the reason he is not familiar with the subject is because it is a figurative someone. Someone that represents everyone that ever was or will be exposed to The Operator.

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Geneaux486
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Janthran wrote:
420Goku wrote:
The only reason Tim would be dead is that something happened to him that wasn't clearly shown or denoted in the video, which I just can't believe. It seems silly that this is even being debated.

OVERDOSING IS A THING
The guy just ate the WHOLE BOTTLE of whatever the pills are. It's a very common form of suicide. Don't say "there's no reason for Tim to be dead" after you watched him take 20 unidentified pills. Unless the stuff is vitamin C, there's a really high chance that he could have died from ODing.


Thing is he's done that before and walked away. It's possible that he died from it, but he's got a history of surviving overdose, assuming that being too close to the Operator doesn't negate the effects, which is also possible.

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 		June 20th. Last entry will be on or before that day.

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They were half joking, but in the 4th Posdcast THAC says they refuse to go past 5 years so whether the series is done or not, the last entry will be on or before the 20th. They were joking, but they clearly had a timeline planned where they felt they could meet that goal. So either this was the last entry (I don't think it was) or we should see the last one by the end of the week.

Fingers crossed


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Geneaux486
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 		They'll probably tell us when it's over.

I hate to say it man, after listening to your isolation of the speech, but I'm still hearing two syllables where you said there was one, even after listening twice more with the speaker right up in my ear. I still think he's saying "If he's still alive".

Signer J wrote:
That is possible, but I find it hard to imagine Masky uploading a video to YouTube.


I don't think Masky did it this time, but he likely uploaded at least some of the totheark stuff from season one, if not all of it, as there was no sign of hooded Brian at that time, and someone was filming on behalf of the totheark channel back in 06, before Brian was "taken".

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Geneaux486 wrote:
censura_umbra wrote:
"If there's someone left, you have to kill them, and then yourself."


I've listened closely to it repeatedly, and I do not hear that at all. I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.

Here is what he says. I can hear it perfectly with my headphones
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This isn't over. You see how it spreads. If there's someone left, you have to kill it, and then yourself.


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