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[VIDEO] Entry #86
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Geneaux486
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thatslenderdude wrote:
Here is what he says. I can hear it perfectly with my headphones


Like I said, that isn't what I'm hearing at all, and I can hear it as clearly as you. I think this is one of those things we're not gonna know for sure unless they release an official transcript or address it in the next entry.

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hachiman
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Let's not get hopes up though, ok?

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Cyan507 wrote:
Malckeor wrote:
Uhh...people are seriously trying to say that Alex's killing spree was UNRELATED to the Operator exposure?

Wat. You guys are silly. I recommend re-watching the series again, most notably that one entry that happened just before the shit once again started hitting the fan full-force, among others that led to different characters having violent tendencies themselves.


it would seem that Alex knew from quite early how TO spread and infected people. By attacking Jay, Tim, Brian, Seth, Jessica, Bruce and likely Amy and Sarah he was trying to stop the contagion from reaching a bigger group.
Alex was the fucking good guy.
I can see why now he was so interested in it back when Pre-production of MH began. He wanted to learn more and find a way to stop it. That's why he didn't want the MH tapes going online. That's why he took so much time trying to kill Jay in season 2, this man had to kill his friends just so more people could live. Think about that.


Except you missed the part where the Operator ceased harming Alex and only attacked the people that Alex was out to kill. If Alex were working to stop the Operator from "spreading", you'd think it would be attacking Alex rather than the people HE was attacking. But no, let's completely ignore the fact that they've both been out to get the same persons on more than one occasion. Alex is the good guy working to stop The Operator, and TO is just standing there WORKING WITH HIM to allow that to happen, even going so far as to CONSUME the corpses to clean up the evidence for Alex Kralie, whose totally been working against TO. Let's go full-on tunnel vision and ignore the evidence that makes this theory sound ridiculous. (/sarcasm)

Alright, let's be real here. Tim was right on the money at the end; "You weren't containing it. You were just feeding it." In light of this dialogue, TO has likely been using these corpses as some sort of food source. As for why the victims' decomposition have been slowed down? Maybe he feeds on some kind of energy from their bodies, and keeps them in peak condition to feed on this energy for as long as he can?

Tim later says, "When you killed Amy, do you feel like you were in control then?", which causes Alex to lash out and leave himself open for the killing blow. He lashed out because, deep in the depths of his Operated mind, he knows Tim is right. Like I said, it's the same as the story for Slender The Arrival (also written by Trosephim). Alex had the insane psychopathic thought that the Operator only spread through people knowing of his existence, which flat-out doesn't make sense as that would mean his very existence defies his own logic; his (TO's) existence literally wouldn't be possible as no one would've known about him before he existed. And before trying to make sense out of the insane man's "source" nonsense: If he could just pick a "source" at will, why doesn't he just pick the entire human race? This whole "it's a disease" explanation is nothing more than an insane man's farce to explain away his psychopathic killing spree. The Operator doesn't need people to know about him to exist. He's the FUCKING Operator.

Now that that's out of the way, let's get back to discussing theories that DON'T contradict irrefutable evidence and make the all-powerful Operator out to be a self-harming idiot.

While I think it would be interesting if a "surprise" character were to have uploaded this entry, I'm joining the camp that says it was Tim. I'm still of the belief that ToTheArk was helmed by someone unseen in the present day storyline; someone who WASN'T Brian. Unfortunately, though, if everyone truly have been reduced to Operator food, it looks like the theories surrounding TTA are irrelevant.

But I don't know. Alex said everyone was "gone" one time before, and he was wrong about several. Maybe some others are still alive?


Also, in regards to the matter at hand, this is what I'm hearing myself:

"This isn't over. You see how it spreads. If there's someone left, you have to kill them, and then yourself."

Like, if it's anything else, it's only a slightly different variation. Sounds pretty clear to me. Nothing more than an insane man's rambling. Rest in peace, Alex Kralie, you glorious victim of circumference.

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are people really still arguing over what alex said

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Geneaux486
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Sidenote wrote:
are people really still arguing over what alex said


Kind of, I guess? We're basically comparing our arbitrary interpretations of a distorted sentence with nothing to work with aside from our own hearing.

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thatslenderdude wrote:
Geneaux486 wrote:
censura_umbra wrote:
"If there's someone left, you have to kill them, and then yourself."


I've listened closely to it repeatedly, and I do not hear that at all. I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.

Here is what he says. I can hear it perfectly with my headphones
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This isn't over. You see how it spreads. If there's someone left, you have to kill it, and then yourself.


I hear "them" not "it" but yeah more or less

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Geneaux486 wrote:
thatslenderdude wrote:
Here is what he says. I can hear it perfectly with my headphones


Like I said, that isn't what I'm hearing at all, and I can hear it as clearly as you. I think this is one of those things we're not gonna know for sure unless they release an official transcript or address it in the next entry.

Hear is the dialogue more clear. I even slowed down what alex said that is confusing everyone. Judge what is said yourself.
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Listened what Alex said before he died, again. It says, "If there's someone left, you have to kill them and then yourself." Some may think it's different because he chokes a bit in the middle of speaking.

FYI, I have headphones on and I turned the volume up louder to ensure I could make out what he says. I'm pretty good at making out what people say as I work at a call center and have to decipher people who don't speak loud enough, or have the phone shoved so far into their face their mouth doesn't open properly, or they are just straight up mumbling. Not to mention, I have to decipher what people say when English is not their first or second language.

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Geneaux486
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I don't know what you guys are listening to, but even in that last audio clip, I can hear "If he's still alive" clear as day. Like I said, we'd need an official transcript.

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Geneaux486 wrote:
I don't know what you guys are listening to, but even in that last audio clip, I can hear "If he's still alive" clear as day. Like I said, we'd need an official transcript.


I think you are mistaking a choking sound. But anyway, let's drop the subject. You're never going to hear what we're hearing. At this point, the consensus is he said "someone" not "he" because more people hear him saying "someone." I'm willing to drop the subject after this post because it's beginning to piss me off. If anyone else wants to argue with you over it, then I suggest they take a step back and just treat you like I treat that marblehornets user.

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I'm joining in on this little debate

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If they're still alive, you have to kill them, and then yourself


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I take it as, "I killed everyone. I think. If not, you gotta do it."

I think Alex believed he was doing the right thing, but that he was so narrow-minded in his focus (probably something TO increased) that he missed what was truly happening. I think Brian was the same way. He was so against Alex, whom he viewed as the source. When he finally finds out its Tim, he pivots, and that's when the Tim vs Jay thing occurred. I feel at least Brian got some perspective in the end, after Alex killed Jay, and gave Tim what he needed to finish this.

I just hope we get some sort of definitive conclusion as to what/who the Ark is.

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Geneaux486
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twistedpuppet wrote:
I think you are mistaking a choking sound. But anyway, let's drop the subject. You're never going to hear what we're hearing. At this point, the consensus is he said "someone" not "he" because more people hear him saying "someone." I'm willing to drop the subject after this post because it's beginning to piss me off. If anyone else wants to argue with you over it, then I suggest they take a step back and just treat you like I treat that marblehornets user.


That's a little harsh. I'm not saying I'm right and you're wrong, I'm saying I don't hear what you hear. Not trying to piss anyone off, just saying none of us actually knows, and it's ambiguous enough that we can't be sure one way or the other.

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censura_umbra
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I'm going to concede that I have no idea what Alex is saying anymore.

In everything I hear, it is "If there is someone left, you have to kill them" This includes the original video and slowed down audio I did. But in the recent clear audio that was posted. I hear "If he's still alive, you have to kill him" Though I'm less confident that is what he said because it is mumbling, but that is what I hear, I don't hear someone at all in that version.

So I don't know, I can see how both phrasings could be heard, and I guess we have to wait for the next entry to know.

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I've heard several different things, but in that recent audio, which is the clearest, I clearly hear:

"If there's someone left, you have to kill them, & then yourself."

This is especially notable because I did not hear "...& then yourself" any time before. I'd thought that he was saying, "If there's someone left, you have to finish them yourself" or "If he's still alive, you have to finish it yourself."

As far as that whole Alex the Killer thing goes, I don't know about Marble Hornets, but I was NOT arguing that The Operator had nothing to do with Alex's symptoms, rather that this doesn't absolve Alex of responsibility--&, since Alex was the only one who had that reaction, most of the responsibility, at that. I still say this. However, Kingdom Hearts demanded my attention much more strongly than this forum.

Also, I'm surprised that I'm still keeping up with this topic. Normally, around Page 20, I get close to 10 pages behind & tap out.

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