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[ledzepfilm]

Well, it's been a good run, everybody.

Only gripe is that WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCKING ARK IS.

And cool. Jessica's alive and Tim's a liar.

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[GreyGhost119]

Re: Jessica

[PortableMuskrat]

[thatslenderdude]

[quote="ledzepfilm"]

[awakeasaurusrex]

I'm broadly satisfied with this ending and I think it has more depth than some people here are giving it credit for.

- First off, them sirens towards the end. Wuh-oh.

- Secondly, as DHawk314 exhaustively explained, it makes perfect sense that Jessica's survival was Tim's big secret that TTA knew about but only ever saw fit to hint at rather than state outright.

- I don't mind that Jessica doesn't seem to have done much plot related because presumably the whole point of Tim's painstaking secrecy surrounding her was to try and let her live the semblance of a normal life. It would be unsurprising if she thought that she just had some treatable psychiatric illness and didn't know anything else about the Operator himself.

As far as Everything Is Fine goes, I think there are two potential interpretations.

1: In terms of the structure of the series, based on the premises we had been introduced to from season 1 onwards there was really only two ways this was going to end: either everyone with a camera would end up dying, or the main protagonist (Jay at the start, Tim by the end) would make a deliberate choice to stop filming. You can take the ending that way. Tim's said his goodbyes, he's leaving the area, the way he stops filming at a two-way junction where we don't know which way he is signalling means that any interested parties watching the videos have no way of knowing which direction he's headed off in, and most significantly the last shot of the series is Tim deliberately turning the camera away from himself and turning it off. It's over, there's nothing to see here - or if there is something to see here, it's nothing that Tim has any stomach to show us any more.

2: Alternately, the grim possibility exists that Tim has in fact carried out Alex's instructions, and killed himself after uploading this. Aside from the sinister implication of him ending the series with a line from a TTA video, let's look at the specific TTA video involved - and specifically, the stereogram code at the end:

In its original context, this was about Alex; Decline came out after Alex's birthday, the previous year TTA had said "THIS IS YOUR LAST BIRTHDAY" in a direct death threat to Alex. When it originally came out, the message means "Well, have you dealt with Alex yet, or was that last birthday thing a bust?"

By pointing to Decline, Tim is also pointing to this message. But now in a odd way it's a message from both him and Alex. If Tim killed Jessica and then killed himself after uploading this to YouTube, and the Operator is gone, then by a grim set of values where stopping the operator is more important than Jessica and Tim's physical well-being everything really is fine. But if he's done all that and the Operator is still around, then both Alex and Tim are liars - Alex because his proposed method of banishing the Operator turned out to be useless, Tim because everything really isn't fine.

[Dreveth]

[Lithp]

Thoughts:

1. Yes, there were a lot of holes in the ending. Deal with it, Fanboys.

2. I thought about it, & Jessica's rescue doesn't really make sense. What reason did Alex have to believe that he'd successfully killed her? Also, once again, getting taken by The Operator means nothing. Or she wasn't Taken & it was just edited to make it look like she was. I don't know. But even if Alex forgot about her, we know that The Operator was messing with her in the hotel room. Why did it just suddenly stop?

3. What are the side-effects of the pills, again?

4. Ignoring that huge Operator Attack was just...yeah.

5. Maybe it is another fake-out ending, but where would they even go after this? A Jessica/Tim arc? Alex faked his death, too?

6. More questions. Did Tim attack Jessica? Did Tim & Brian have a falling out, & that's why Brian was trying to expose Tim's secret? Did Tim really know who Hoody was?

7. "Ark=Death" makes no sense at all.

[PieAvenger]

OMG.


OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG.


What?!!?! Sorry for a reaction comment on page 1x but WOW!!!

Does this mean we can solve Null?! Maybe Null has all of our answers...it says "Who is left to hear your secret"
"Do you know?"
"I have for years."

How long has Tim known that Jessica was alive?! And why did he keep it secret from Jay?!

Arrgh! I think maybe Null will help us out. Also, I'm going with "It's not over until I see the credits!"

Also, I hear sirens as Tim is driving. Did Tim attack Jessica? Like, we wait all this time to see if she's alive and then she...possibly dies the second we see her? That's kinda frustrating!

Also Tim throwing his mask away was kind of a metaphor for the series ending... If it's probably over guys Well I've never been so sad. Where was he even driving off to? Aw man...still so much is up in the air.

What about the Operator? Will Tim continue letting it destroy his life? This can't be the end, simply from that idea alone. But if it is... smooth sailing, ya'all.

Let's see if we can piece together the entire series from this entry alone...

[gennerx]

[Legate Lozan]

I don't think were focusing on the big picture here. Now that we know that Jessica is alive, we now know that Alex was either completely insane or a liar.

So all the things that we thought we knew, we can't be so sure about anymore. I no longer believe anyone besides the people we saw die on camera (Alex, Jay, Brain I may have forgotten some not sure). I also do not think this is the end. It can't; this would be a terrible ending. This is Bioshock: Infinite bad if its the ending.

It may however, serve as the segway into the new project, I'd be cool with that.

Also, saying that having no ending is better than an ending because ending are divisive is weak as hell. I'd much rather have a shitty ending than no ending. At least the shitty ending would have a change of resolving things.

[ledzepfilm]

It's probably the slender void, but it isn't confirmed in the series.

[PortableMuskrat]

[commodore64]

[thatslenderdude]